Hey Satanists! Why can't there be a "Satanic Wicca"???

Question

I do my best thinking on the toilet, just like LaVey did. It was during one of these brainstorming sessions I had an epihany: There is "Christian Wicca" THEREFORE why can't there be Satanic Wicca? If you can combine two things as opposite as xtianity and Wicca, then you sure as Hell can combine two vaugely similar things like Satanism and Wicca (we all know it's whitewashed Satanism, so get over it). A lot of them have some of our favorite gods, Hecate, Lilith, Azazel, The Watchers (really just fallen angels no matter how slice it). They have somewhat similar trappings. Plus some of the covens have s & m and sex (not many but a few)! That beats just having a nude girl for an altar.
But then I thought, do we really need yet another Wicca to add to the 100 zillion brands already? What do you think? Good idea? Bad idea?

The Temple of Set? Way too complicated. It's great if you're a total occult geek.

Wait, there's already one? No way.

Dragonhind, read a book. Wicca was made in 1950. It was an offshoot of Thelema. And even Pagan cultures had devils. "The cords and scourging aren't S and M, it's because Diana wants to whip my fanny because i was a naughty Warlock, you have orgies, we have the great rite, blah blah blah". Exactly, it's whitewashed Satanism. Thanks for proving my point.

Hey sixtychild, someone will think of it even if I don't. Some Wiccans are into polygamy (oh sorry, I mean "multiple blessed happy handfastings") and I like that idea. I just want to take a good thing and make it better.

Oh yeah sixtyschild, I really believe you're not a Wiccan. I always defend and promote religions I don't really believe in too.

Dana S, c'mon now. You sound like you're a bisexual into swinging, and you say incest and bestiality are ok. We ain't that bad are we???

Candylion, you're a typical white lighter hypocrite. You insult me then have the nerve to say "Blessed Be!" How pathetic! I say to you, "Cursed Be! Heh heh! At least I'm not scared to practice real witchcraft!

Uh huh, Judea. There can't be xtian wicca? But there is. All religions are man made anyway. And then you say Wicca isn't Satanism, but then say "I am sure there are many Wicca who are also Satanists". Typical whitle lighter doublespeak. And you should do some more research on the Watchers. Read The Book of Enoch. I don't have a problem with them being fallen angels. And I guess what you're trying to say is you think it's a bad idea. Your opinion is noted.

Answer 1

Hey wait, that's just plain wrong. You're just trying to start a spakin' new tradition (and goddess knows we have way too many fluffies already) just so you can get laid.

It is true, there are covens that follow the LHP. I chatted w/ a girl once who said her coven was dedicated to Hecate (I think they're in New Orleans). I heard of another coven that worshipped the god in the form of Azazel and a Dianic coven dedicated to Lilith. But covens like this are the exception rather than the rule. Most real Wiccans shun black magic.

Blessed Be!

Answer 2

I'm bored so I'll bite...*pets bored little troll boy*

There is not Christian Wicca, the two cannot be combined any more than Judaism and Islam can be combined into one religion – this is the nature of religion, you either follow the beliefs or not, you cannot believe in two different things at the same time, unless you are a schizophrenic.

Religion is a group of people with shared beliefs, practices, and doctrines, granted those who call themselves 'Christian Wicca' may have that but the fatal flaw in their 'tradition' is that no Wicca coven would initiate someone who believed in Christianity, for the very simple fact that it makes no sense to follow such greatly conflicting beliefs.

I think you have an elemental misunderstanding about both Wicca and Satanism;

Wicca is a henotheistic religion, although they are at the same time hard-polytheistic in their belief, Wicca do not follow Hecate, Lilith, etc. they follow their own specific gods whose identities are kept within Wicca – i.e. Wicca is a lineage oath-bound priesthood, only those within Wicca are taught about the gods in which they follow.

Satanism is a philosophical principle following most commonly the left hand path, although there are Satanic religions such as Lucifarians and Laveyism Satanists for the most part of solely atheistic in nature. Satanism at its base is a pro-human philosophy that stands against common ethical doctrines that argue against basic human nature.

I am sure there are many Wicca who are also Satanists, Wicca are hardly the 'love & light' religion that so many would like people to believe, it is just as likely to find someone who is Wicca and believes that revenge is a basic healthy human emotion than you are to find this idea in any other religion.
Granted Satanism requires a little bit more active belief than what would be considered common sense by most, but there is nothing stopping the combination of Wicca religion and Satanic philosophy, as apposed to attempting to combine the two religions of Wicca and Christianity.

As for a few other points;

The Watchers are not fallen angels they are simply angels, to my knowledge Enochian Magic is not common in Satanism in its more common forms.

Covens don't have S&M, there is outer-court material which mentions the use of bounding and scourging however this is not a sexual act but a means of initiation, covens do involve sex, all covens involve sexual undertones as the basis of Wicca is rested upon the idea of life, without sex there is no life. Wicca isn't branded, it remains a small priesthood.

I would suggest rather than trying to think on the toilet you read like most people, start by learning about religion, then make your way on Wicca and Satanism. If you are unaware of both Wicca and Satanism then your argument has just a few great gaping holes in it.

Answer 3

I see why you do your thinking on the toilet...you are full of cr@p. Wicca isnt combined with anything especially not Christianity OR Satanism. Wiccans dont believe in Satan for a start..that is a Christian invention that was made up to overlap Cernunnos who had antlers which they twisted into horns. La Vey was a moron who made money out of chumps like you who join up to get their rocks off with orgies etc. Mostly because if you look at so called Satanists if they didnt join they would have to pay for it. Covens dont have S & M..they use cords and RITUALISTIC scourging. I could go on and on but please get your facts straight before you lump Wicca (which is known as the Old Religion and predates Christianity by a long shot) with any other religion or belief.

Answer 4

HAH! There already is a satanic wicca! The Temple of Set isn't wiccan though. I have a friend that is a Setian and she would be pissed if anyone called her a wiccan!

Answer 5

Christian Wiccans aren't real Wiccans! There's really no such thing! Have you ever seen a black KKK member? It would be the same difference!

Satanic Wicca would be an abomination!

Answer 6

You're too late! i had a relative in Wicca and thought he and his friends knew everything. He blew his schooling, family violence, and permanent record. that was his Wicca.. so i visited a book store and bought him a book about the true Wicca and their goodness and beliefs against violence. i don't believe in Wicca but it is all around me where i live .i recognize the language and symbols. please don't give out any more shitty ideas too many young on here.LOL.

Answer 7

Check out the Temple of Set.

Answer 8

I believe your thoughts are just exactly where it came from; "The Toilet"

Answer 9

you have too much time on your hands that is used ignorantly. i suggest you read some books and do some research, by the way.....bad idea

blessed be
Izyb

Answer 10

That's a great idea. WHO WOULD OF EVER THOUGHT. NOT ONLY CAN I CREATE A POTION TO HELP ME TALK TO MY DOGWOOD TREE BUT I CAN WORSHIP SATAN WHILE DOING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!