Should we go back to the 50's with discipline?

Question

Do you think we should go back to disipline from the 50's , I remember being at school & knowing if I spoke in class I would get punished also if I missed behave anywhere I would not get away with it someone would sort me out , kids of today are just YOBS, Saturday night we were awoke with shouting in the street about 20 teenagers were walking in the middle of the road shouting as loud as they could , banging on car roofs as they went , 10 mins after they had gone ,one of my neighbours was shouting for everyone to leave their houses as his van on his drive had been set light , the tarpauline covering his van had been set light and had been smoldering , inside the van was gas bottles , paint , turpentine , the gas bottles started to explode , the air was thick with smoke ,this was not the only van to be set on fire another further along the rd was on fire too,the person that did this could have killed innocent people , just because they wanted some fun??

the area I live in is not run down its a quality area these YOBS come from somewhere else!!!! Also I do not put ALL youngsters into the YOB category , have it happen where you live & see if you feel the same???

Answer 1

Absolutely. Society has gotten way too warm and fuzzy. No one disciples their kids anymore. This started in the 60's and 70's and now those kids are having their own kids and it just gets worse. When little Johnny sets the neighbors cat on fire just for fun, don't take away his X-Box for a week. Hit him up side the head with the damn controller.

Answer 2

Children nowadays are let off far too easy. They should be punished, although it would be a tricky! I mean if a teacher had to cane a child in class Im sure that child would then take revenge on the teacher outside of school or some children do take revenge on parents that try to punish.

We should start with punishing criminals far more severly. Then children might care more about being caught doin something illegal. I actually heard of a few kids that went to jail and wanted to go to jail so they could be like their friends and get their "I survived jail badge". Its ridiculous!

Bottom line "Kids do not care nowadays"

We´re so busy making sure children are safe and rolled up in cotton wool that we´re missing a huge problem and that is the huge percentage of children that use the system too do what they want when they want and get away with it.

I am talking of children that go and do something such as set fire to vehicles and if they are caught they play the underage card, get a slap on the wrist, a record that is cleared when they are an adult and nothing. Or get put into care where they learn to really become criminals. This reason is why children dont care about the system or anything else.

Plus bad parenting is also a huge factor and the parents should be held responisble as well. Even in some severe cases the parents bein put in jail for a short term to wake them up and even then probably not.

I dont have a solution for the problem, only know the problem is getting worse and the police, teachers all need more support to deal with these children and given more respect by adults.

Answer 3

I find it humorous that people remember the 50's as this "Happy Days" or "Leave it to Beaver" perfect world.

In reality a lot of problems began to surface. The introduction of Valium was cure all for the frustrated housewife. Couple that with alcohol and things get pretty ugly. Many of the drugs that are illegal now were legal then. Fast forward into the next decade...the 60's and people equate that with "free love", drug use, etc. Well it did not just start in the 60's it began before that.

The Women's Rights and Civil Rights movement were in the begining stages. Birth control was becoming an issue. More women began to work outside of the home and so many other things. Lynchings were still commonplace.

Don't get me wrong. A lot of good has come of the changes over the years. But the 50's weren't as nice as people would want you to believe.

Some would say that crime was lower, etc. But look at the amount of crime per capita. I am sure you will find that the rate is in line with what it always has been. Now there will be a rise in the overall picture, but there are more crimes than before. It just seems that there is more despicable crime, but I think it's the media that plays up to that.

People were still getting molested by perverts, kids were getting kidnapped, murder still happend, there were bank robberies, bombings, etc.

Hollywood just wants you to believe it was a better time. This is as good as it gets.

Answer 4

We could learn a lot from the discipline we had then, learning to sieve out the parts that did'nt work, and keeping the parts that did. Things were a lot simpler then, we had less and expected less. Rationing predicted our diets, after rationing it was'nt much different only more of it. School meals were similar to today, chips most days and spam. But we all knew how far to go before we would get a spanking. At school one teacher used a ruler to hit the back of our legs and hands. Another a slipper across the backside. Punishment for nothing really.

So, yes and no, a balance between then and now. But respect starts in the home. If a parent can't respect a teacher then the child is'nt going to.

Answer 5

I don't think kids have very good role models nowadays.' What monkey sees monkey does' as the saying goes. I think a lot of parents should take a step back and have a good look at themselves. I find some of the older generation very rude not just young kids. Ok they don't go around setting light to cars but they don't set a great example at times. If the fifties was so great why didn't our parents/grandparents pass on their so called 'good behaviour' to the present generation. Also kids grow up to fast by watching films/games that are very violent or scary. I'm always shocked at how complacent some parents are by letting young children watch 18cert videos. They give the impression that its ok or normal to behave in that manner. Playstation games can be shockingly brutal and should be banned.

Violence breeds violence. Many parents do regularly beat and abuse their children, sadly. These are the ones to watch out for.as they are more likely to commit a crime themselves because they feel worthless and don't care what people think anymore.

Answer 6

I would have shot them if they came near my property. These kids are so annoying to me also. I'm in the same situation, not a bad neighborhood, but too many young idiots. I saw this kid just beating the crap out of another kid outside the other day, I couldn't just stand there and watch. I went out there and yelled at him to stop and told him I would call the police, that stopped him. Now maybe when he is older he will think twice about doing something like that again. As to the older ones that walk around creating problems, I don't know what to do. We have police that circle my neighborhood all day, but as soon as they leave, the idiots come out. I think if that happens again, you should call the police, if the kids are walking , the police might catch up with them. Good luck! and I'm glad no one was injured. If you find a better way of dealing, let me know!!!

Answer 7

I believe that disipline first begins at home but for some reason the government now makes it near impossible to exercise this. You can't smack your children now as it' deemed cruel, I was brought up in a very strict household and was smacked when naughty. I wasn't beaten to a pulp as some people automatically think when you mentioned smacking children and I would bring my children up to be respectful and be punished by a smack. I'm not for any of this "let's understand why you've done this".

The parent's are made to feel like criminals if they try and disipline their children, police don't do anything either and the schools are too relaxed. I can remember hearing from my mother when she said back in the 1950's that they were petrified of the local bobby.

When I was in infant school the headmistress thought nothing of pulling down your trousers and smacking your **** in her office.

This country really needs a wake-up call!!

Answer 8

I dont believe going back to the fifties is the answer, seeings all the other things in the world have evolved so much since then, it wouldnt work, legistation and human rights alone would have to retrieve, and that isn't the answer. i think your statement 'kids of today are just YOBS'
is an unjust generalisation to the youth of our country, i do feel the neighbourhood you must live in, sounds worse than the'normal' class communities. but i believe the answer to the youth that are comitting these acts need some guidance, some role models, some youth activities, some hope, some counselling, some support, alcohol and other drug education,
what im hearing is there aren't enough services available to them, or opportunities for a better future. and i the parents/caregivers of these kids- where are they? obviously somewhere where the kids aren't and maybe thats the problem, lack of parental responsibility and guardianship. you need to get a community minded approach to whats happening in your community and act upon it, it can only get worse if its left alone.

good luck! god knows they need it.

Answer 9

i don't think that we need to go back to the 50's for examples of discipline, as this was an age where children where seen but not heard. i believe that government has taken away the parents rights in punishing their children and the children know that parents, teachers, polices hands are tide. the acts where meant to help children who where and are being abused but there is no longer any clear line nowhere days. adults are scared to confront problem children. this should not be the case but it is. i have known people who have been beaten, stabbed and even shoot for speaking up. government needs to address this problem and give back the power to the parents, teachers, police and show these yobs that we will no longer tolerate this abuse. we need to make a stand and government needs to back us.

Answer 10

The problem all stems with the namby pamby lefty do gooders who don't believe that we should punish children but we should try to understand why they do what they do.
B*llocks. I'm not saying that we batter children within an inch of their lives, but at least present some kind of punishment that will act as a deterrent.
There are no deterrents anymore. Children who commit crime these days are seen as the victims, the misunderstood ones and sent away on safaris or adventure weekends.
It's about time we all woke up and smelled the coffee.
So the answer is yes. I totally agree with you.