Our preacher last week preached on the fact that America is a great place, but, is it too free. You can go out and do whatever you want. There are laws ,but , for the most part, you can do a lot as you please. We aren't aloud to put a nativity scene up at the court house, but people can curse like sailors, do drugs, get preg. as teens, be gay, goths, or what ever it be, but we can't pray in school??? I don't understand!!!! Why is it that they get more "rights" then we do?
2006-09-11 14:45:57 · 20 answers · asked by vmbbfreak06 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
this is a hard choice betyween littlebitty and sage, or what ever that is.
2006-09-12 09:39:47 · update #1
Jesus said; "They will hate you, because of Me"! It prophecy. Jesus also told his Disciples about the End Times. He said; "I tell you these things, so, when you see them happening. You do not despair, but, know the time is near".
I may not have answered the question, but, hope this helps you understand.
2006-09-11 14:54:43 · answer #1 · answered by Snaglefritz 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
For the one millionth time, because the first amendment guarantees that the government doesn't endorse any specific religion.
It's not a matter of having more "rights." You have the right to exercise your faith all you want to the point where it infringes on other people's rights, which prayer in school would do. There aren't any laws on the books against the "rights" you cite others as having, and any law passed against these things would be unconstitutional.
Besides, without freewill, what would religions be worth anyway? If everyone was compelled to choose your way, then what would be the point? And anyway, I'd always been under the impression that Christians are encouraged not to be a part of the world, but to be apart from it. So why, especially in the political arena these days, do Christians seem determined to do exactly the opposite?
Also, I'd add that co-opting federal and state institutions such as courthouses and schools to spread your message is much more likely to inflame than it is to encourage others to come around to your message. Isn't that exactly the opposite of what you're supposedly encouraged to do?
2006-09-11 15:04:05 · answer #2 · answered by Tommy 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Who is the "they" that are getting more rights than "we?"
I think trying to pit "us" against "them" is unfortunate and not very intelligent. And, putting up a nativity scene outside a courtroom has nothing to do with dressing goth, or cursing, etc.
The fact that you aren't allowed to put a nativity scene up at a courthouse makes complete sense if you put real thought in to it. Not everyone in this country is a Christian. I don't want my neighbor who is Jewish or Hindu, etc. to feel like the courthouse which is provided for ALL of us, not just us Christians, to be presenting Christianity. Would you also like the Buddha statue outside the courtroom as well? Unless you plan on representing all religions at our public services, you should just shut up. That is exactly why RELIGION IS NOT APPROPRIATE EVERYWHERE. (Sorry for the excessive caps, there are no italics to use.) Are you thinking EVERYONE should believe the same thing, like we must all be Christians? If so, you are not talking about living in a free country. So saying "they" are getting more rights just makes you sound ignorant.
You can pray ANYWHERE you want to. No one can stop you. Praying is a private matter, no one can stop your individual spirituality. Likewise, no one can stop the shared spirituality you may have with people at your church. But if you are going to start your history lesson at your public school with a "public" prayer, then that is a problem. Not everyone in the classroom believes the same as you do. Not even all Christians believe the same. Would you enjoy saying ten "Hail Mary's" all together before History lesson? (I'm guessing you're not Catholic). Well, that's why praying together in a public secular setting doesn't make sense. The way we PRACTICE our spiritual beliefs differs from person to person in any public setting (besides your personal place of worship or perhaps a private school).
My advice to you is that you put a little more thought into what you are doing and thinking. Does it makes sense for ALL of us? And, it sounds like perhaps your "preacher" is not the best person in the universe to be listening to if you are trying to honestly figure out what it means to be a free person living in a free country.
2006-09-11 15:24:32 · answer #3 · answered by tinkerbella 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Everyone gets the same rights. No religion is represented in the American govnerment. That means that you will never be made to feel uncomfortable in a court house that displays articles of the faith of another.
All the other things you are talking about have nothing to do with religion.
It is exactly this kind of thinking that is causing trouble in America today and I think the pastors and preachers are fanning the flames. It is not a matter of non christians being able to do whatever they want (you don't see Pentagrams or Menorahs at the court house either) - any of us can do what we want because we are americans, as long as it does not intrude on the realm of the religious.
Frankly, it seems to me to just be a matter of basic common courtesy. What are the 2 things you should never talk about at a dinner party if you want people to get along? Religion and Politics, right?
Peace!
2006-09-11 14:59:27 · answer #4 · answered by carole 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The idea is that if you allow prayer in school which prayer do you allow?
The Christians would want only christian prayers. The Muslims would too. The Hindus, and Buddhists are more tolerant, but I think you get the idea. Which version of God are we going to pick?
In the long run there is no real answer.
So prayer is not forced on anyone. This does not stop anyone from praying to them self if they want to, it just doesn't force anyone to pray in any particular way.
You can still curse like a sailors, do drugs, get preg. as a teen, be gay, goths, or what ever it be if you want. No one is stopping you, so I don't see how anyone has any more rights than you do. The rest of us just don't want your religion stuffed down our throats.
Love and blessings
don
2006-09-11 14:58:08 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well
That is a Smart Question, i will Answer your Question in 3 Parts to make it easy
1-What Really Freedom Mean,
In my Own Opinion, Freedom is
when you Act as Responsible in the society
2-Freedom in America
To Be Honest Sometimes it make nonsense alot of Option here
and i am not being against The Freedom of America
but i am against what make nonsense to me
For example
***If You Bunche a child ,,,You Can Go To Jail and you the mother or the Father???
We All Knows Children sometimes need Punishment
But because of that Freedom Look what is Going On Nowadays
Kids Using drugs,,,,Kids getting pregnant,,,etc
***If You Talk Back To Older with Bad Mouth like Most of the Kids does,,, that is not Freedom,,,that is disrespect
***Freedom in Another countries
and i will Talk from My Own experiences
in Togo West Africa you can do whatever you want too,,,
But Everything with Limit
because if you Cross that Limit
It'll Turn into Something else
and in General
SALT is Very Important to get some Food done
But Extra SALT Spoiled the Food,
peace i hope my words make sense
2006-09-11 15:23:17 · answer #6 · answered by Momomada 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Too free.. what side of the bed did you wake up on.. If the country was too free then equality would be around and equility is something that is missing from the United States and almost every other country... I cant help but go to ppl can curse, do drugs, get preg, be gay, gots etc.. but cant pray in school.. Im guessing your a christian, as a christian would you like to learn about the Jewish faith? Muslim? Buddhist? no you wouldnt, just like a muslim doesnt want to learn about christianity. Due to the fact that there is more then 1 religioin, and at public schools ppls beliefs are all over the place, it is not possible to have religion in school as there are too many. And the other fact is, if you want to learn religion at school, GO TO A RELIGIOUS SCHOOL! If there too expensive, thats not my problem, perhaps you need to speak to someone in that religion as to why they charge too much!
Can you tell me what homosexual has more rights then you do? Im dying to know this one because as far as I am aware HOMOSEXUALS HAVE NO RIGHTS!!! If you had any sense of reality or even just used common sense you wouldnt have written this mindless crap as that is exactly what it is.. CRAP!
2006-09-11 14:52:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Why should anyone be allowed to put up religious idols at a courthouse? You are free to put them up at church and that should be good enough. Would you like the courthouse or post office to put up Islamic statues or a big Buddha statue?
Seperation of church and state isn't taking away anything from anyone.
Same thing with the prayer in school. If you want to bow your head and pray, go ahead. But don't expect everyone to want their kids to pray to the same god you do. Would you want kids to sit and have to pray to other gods? Freedom of religion goes a long way and we all have it. Pray in your car, your home, your church, your friends house, your backyard but don't force your prayers on anyone else.
I wouldn't force my beliefs on you and I'd appreciate if you didn't force yours on me.
"Why is it that they get more "rights" then we do?"
Who is "they" and how do they have more rights than you? Again, no one is erecting Jewish menorahs at the post office. No Ganesh statues at the DMV. No nativity scene at the courthouse. Where are these people who have more religious rights than you?
2006-09-11 14:59:38 · answer #8 · answered by Miss. Bliss 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The fact is that we are not that free. The reason for not being able to pray in school is probably because it is a public school. Is it? If so, the school is run by the state and abides by state laws and the way it goes is that you cannot mix religion with the state.
2006-09-11 14:54:21 · answer #9 · answered by CARLOS 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Um, who is "they" and "we"? I don't see anything here suggesting that anyone has more rights than anyone else.
And who told you that you can't pray in school? That's ridiculous.
Of course you're not allowed to put up a nativity scene at the court house, but if you think that's a restriction on freedoms, you've got it backwards. You can't do that because that would be an attack on religious freedom.
2006-09-11 14:52:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
It is not too free. People should be allowed to do as they please providing they do not hurt others. As soon as someone decides what is and what is not good for people tyranny is not far off. We have had enough of being slaves to ideals. Your preachers idea of what is acceptable is not acceptable to many people. He may be Christian but that would not be acceptable to people of other faiths but they should not be stopped from their freedom to do as they please unless his freedoms are taken away as well. Prayers in school should not be forced on people who don't believe in God. The educational system should not be used, in a multi-faith society, to promote one religion to the exclusion of others. Not allowing a nativity scene in the courthouse seems extreme but if no religious themes are allowed in the courthouse then no nativity scene should be allowed. There should be no impression that the court favours one religion above others.
Drugs are a personal choice, the Government has decided to make them illegal - the same problems as in prohibition has been the result (there's no freedom here). I don't think teen pregnancies are acceptable but that it my view and I should not affect others life choices. I don't like homosexuality but I won't oppose it provided it isn't thrust down my throat. Freedom comes at a price which is in return for our freedoms we have to recognize others freedom to do as they please providing they do not hurt others. Curbing freedoms is a slippery slope to despotism and hell, not heaven, on earth.
2006-09-11 14:59:45 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋