There are those that say that this is all it takes to be saved and worthy of heaven. The same people oftentimes say that once you are saved, you never lose it. Also, these guys claim that there is nothing you can DO to bet into heaven (because it's by grace we are saved, but not works lest any man should boast). Well I know they mean well, but they're WRONG!!!
Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior entails more that a verbal request. It requires more than a prayer. It is a complex process that DOES involve conduct. If a serial killer asks for Jesus's forgiveness and invites him into his heart, then continues your bloody streak through New York City until he's killed 10 years later, HE IS NOT NOR WAS HE EVER SAVED. If you accept a free sandwhich, but you do not eat it, then you didn't actually get a sandwhich.
Anyone that is serious about accepting Jesus WILL AT LEAST TRY THEIR BEST TO UPHOLD THE COMMANDMENTS and the other laws of honorable conduct found in the Bible. PERIOD!
2006-09-11 02:49:18 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If they don't they are not a Christian, and they are not saved. Most preachers I've heard consider conduct a work, well, I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. You can SAY you want to go to Heaven all you want, but if you don't walk the walk after you draw the line, you're just wasting your time AND Jesuses.
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2006-09-11 02:51:44 · update #1
All? No. You can accept Him...but then reject Him a second later. Accepting Him is a lifelong process that involves a conscious effort to live according to His teachings.
2006-09-11 02:57:00 · answer #1 · answered by 4999_Basque 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What if you do all the good stuff, but leave Jesus and Abraham and all those other guys out of it?
What if even though you don't think you will or will not necessarily be "saved" you do good things anyway. Not to get something back from a covenant with the Lord, but just because it's the right way to live?
Do people like that go to your hell? I find that kind of strange. Fear of hell is being confused for love of Jesus and God. Are those two really that gullible?
How about we just be kind and accepting of each other because we respect each other. I'm not sending you to hell for believing in all that Jesus stuff. I think most of it's ok. I prefer to pick my own path.
No heaven. No hell.
Just sky and ground and other people who are all my brothers and sisters who I love and care about for no other reason than because it's the right thing to do.
So maybe your religion's right, or maybe some other one is. They all could be. Or possibly there is simply non-existance and this is all we have. I think what matters is now. Let's just be as loving as we can be to others with what time we have.
2006-09-11 03:03:50 · answer #2 · answered by Bran McMuffin 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Read your bible and quit making your own doctrine to fit what is politically correct. Don't forget about the holy spirit working in the lives of those who are newly saved. What you talk about is equivelant to washing up before taking a shower. You get saved and the holy spirit will do all he can to help a misguided heart. I hope you are not held responsible for scaring unbeleivers away from christianity and salvation, by requiring perfection. If you have broken one of the laws you have broken them all. Come as you are to be given salvation but don't expect to not feel the erge to live a holy life. This is a much more biblical view. I don't think I win the top answer for this question. lol
2006-09-11 03:07:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
NOPE!! You are correct. And you can lose your salvation once you have been saved. Even Jesus said that. Works go with being saved but it does not save you. Trouble is most preachers talk about only nine of the commandments but what about the fourth one that begins with REMEMBER? Guess God knew people would forget so He told us to REMEMBER and yet most still forget or just brush it off as the only one of the Commandments that is not valid. I would ask why not if all the others are valid? IF you want one to be Jewish, why are the others not Jewish also? Can't have it both ways and God will be the judge and will have all TEN of the Commandments to judge us by.
2006-09-11 02:59:25 · answer #4 · answered by ramall1to 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Adder_Astros,
There was an Epistle written on this subject. It was written to a church where the Judaizers taught just what you are peaching. Are you familliar with the Epistle to the Galatians? It goes something like this:
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Do you not know what Grace means? What part of the Law do you support, and then leave the other undone?
It's this kind of perversion of the Gospel that Paul recognized as being not actually a Gospel, and said:
Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
What of those that do that?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
And so you have set yourself as being a fulfiller of the Law? No. you haven't, have you? You are saying that you have to at least try? But to what avail? What does doing part of the Law do for you? Well, according to my Bible it says this:
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
So what is it? What is the thing that keeps us in Him, and a part of His Heavenly Kingdom? Faith. It's trusting God for His word. We become the cohabitation of the Holy Spirit and He begins to change us. Not by our own myopic view of the Law of Moses, but by the workings of the Holy Spirit. As it is written:
Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
and how to continue?
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
So I reject your rendition of scriptural exegesis, it is errant, foul, and corrupt.
2006-09-11 03:30:32 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Salvation is by faith alone. Justification is by works. The Bible clearly teaches this. If you teach anything else, then you are preaching a different Jesus than one that is in the Bible. Christianity is not a legalistic religion like Judaism or Islam. Faith and hope are the keys to honoring Christ. We obey the commandments because Christ obeyed them, but we are no longer under the law---we are under the dispensation of grace. With out the grace of God no one could be saved. All believers sin, but God is just to forgive that sin if we ask and repent.
2006-09-11 02:57:13 · answer #6 · answered by Preacher 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
While I find the whole notion of religion vile and offensive I do think this question/questioner is on to something. What happened to good works in Christianity? Where is turning the other cheek? Loving thy neighbor?
A TRUE Christian would take a vow of silence, poverty and good works; the TRUE Christian does not ever preach but teaches by example!!!
2006-09-11 02:57:54 · answer #7 · answered by slyintellectual 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
as quickly as we settle for Jesus as our Savior, then via definition that incorporates admitting we are sinners. It incorporates repentance, it extremely is a trustworthy desire to coach from our sin. (it relatively is why hedging your bets, alongside the strains of Pascal's guess, won't have the ability to effect in a real conversion.) So there would desire to be a trustworthy desire to stay with God, no longer in basic terms conflict via a ritual or a prayer to get your eternal hearth insurance. whether, sturdy works are the effect of salvation, no longer the reason for it. keep in mind that salvation is granted via God. God is omniscient. He has familiar from all eternity who would be saved. (Ephesians a million:4) He has promised that all human beings who's "foreknown" would be thoroughly, thoroughly saved. (Romans 8:28-30;) In John 10:28,29, Jesus provides you that once you belong to the father, no guy (which incorporates your self) can pluck you out of his hand. The eternal nature of salvation is definite up contained in the eternal nature of God. For God to temporarily "lend" salvation to somebody, then grab it away for some infraction, would be unthinkable. it would be saying that God does not be attentive to the destiny, or that he makes blunders. Edited to appropriate a typo.
2016-09-30 14:02:48 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes all you are required to do is recieve the gift of salvation. Scripture does say that you must be baptized, also. But I think that can be covered by a final unction after death in the case of a death bed conversion.
Works, or good deeds are outward signs of your gratitude and the validity of your salvation.
2006-09-11 02:57:55 · answer #9 · answered by Makemeaspark 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Jesus died a long time ago. You see, when someone is dead, they are no longer able to function. Jesus can not be a savior as he is dead. Furthermore, since there is nothing to be saved from Jesus could never have been a savior.
2006-09-11 02:54:20 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋