Evolution never existed. Non belivers stick with logic but how did trees grow when there was no seeds?
2006-09-12 02:16:11
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answered by Da Great 1 6
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The big bang theory has little to do with the origin of life. That theory holds that the universe has been expanding for the past 13.6 billion years or so from a singularity of arbitrarily high temperature and density. This may sound screwy, but there is ample scientific evidence that it is true. The two most important pieces of evidence are the Hubble constant (principally the fact that it IS a constant), and the microwave background radiation. These agree on the date of the bang within experimental error.
Fast forward nine billion years to the beginning of the solar system. A supernova has exploded somewhere in the neighborhood, creating all the elements heavier than iron -- these elements cannot be made by cooking in an ordinary star. Gas and dust accrete to form the sun and planets; the gravitational collapse of the sun supplies enough energy to ignite thermonuclear fusion. At some early point, the moon is formed, and (because it is close to the earth) creates enormous tides. The atmosphere consists of methane, carbon dioxide, and water vapor. Electrical discharges create various complex organic materials. We do not know how this wound up creating something that we would call living, but it is certainly possible that it did. And the evidence is that it happened rather early in earth's history. But it was a long time after that that more advanced life forms (such as eukaryotic cells) appeared.
The concept of free will has been a philosophical morass for millenia. The current idea is that in fact everything is deterministic, which would superficially mean that free will does not in fact exist. But the action you take as a result of any stimulus depends to some degree on everything you have ever seen and done in your entire life, so attempting to calculate your action as a deterministic function is utterly hopeless. A free will model works fine, and for practical purposes is just as valid as saying "The devil made me do it!"
For much more on this, see the reference.
2006-09-10 20:14:00
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi there, this is an age old dispute.
I'd just want to ask you why you think that a scientific theory is just made up? A scientific theory HAS to have supporting evidence and data to back it up and this evidence and data has to be tested and re-tested throughout the scientific community before it will even be published. Therefore, the big bang theory, evolution, string theory, whatever you like are NOT just the musings of some bespectacled scientist taking a bath. They are real findings based on years of study with real evidence to back them up.
The only reason they remain "theories" is that they are not proved to be the ONLY way, and that new scientific evidence may arise that changes the model of the theory.
The existence of the God depicted in the holy bible, however, has no such evidence or data attached to it. You are believing something for the sake of believing. "God did it. says so in the bible". Not only are you stating this as fact (at least those of us who believe in the big bang admit we can't be 100% sure) you are stating it as fact from a book. A book most Christians haven't even read (which is fact) a book that is a collection of stories written at different times by different people, and that some chapters are missing, thrown out by roman emperors because they didn't like what it said. A book that has been translated from a language nobody speaks anymore. In fact, a book that has been so diluted over the last 3000 years, that it's not beyond the realms of possibility, that the original did indeed contain the exact chemical, physical and mathematical events that caused the universe to be. (Of course, anyone reading such things at that time would have discarded it immediately as complete gibberish.)
What you as a believer should be asking yourself is not about non believers but this: If God never intended us to discover the secrets of the universe, to unlock the mystery's of how it all came in to being, and to understand why and how we are here, he wouldn't have given us the ability to do so would he?
From a minute, chemical reaction, life appeared, and it grew, and it changed and now it is able to stand above the Earth, look down upon it and ask HOW? To me, that is far more powerful than any miracle described in your bible, in fact, that IS a miracle.
2006-09-10 22:26:39
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answered by Anonymous
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A little schooling might help you. you clearly haven't understood the ramifications of modern science.
In addition, the fact that something doesn't seem logical or probable to you doesn't make it impossible. It's far more likely than some supernatural alien flicking his/her/its fingers.
If you study the subjects (religion/theology and science) you'll begin to realise that the probability of the supernatural being is far, far less than that of the big bang.
As for the issue of free-will, if there is a god and he is omnipotent, he knows everything that will ever happen - including what you willl do tomorrow. You're fooled into thinking that you have free-will because it seems like free-will to you. In reality, it's all fixed from the first moment of existence.
Regarding your sentence "who else but an almighty being....." is simple anthropomorphism. "We design and create things, therefore, everything is designed and created. If it's too complex for us to design and create, then a superior being must have done it". There's no evidence whatever for that. Given the time since the big bang, almost anything could have happened.
The only issue where god could creep in is "before the big bang". Maybe that's creation for you. Everything after that could be pre-programmed, so the current state of affairs was part of the original plan. Of course, there's no evidence either way so the field's clear for you - whatever you want to believe - for now. Once science establishes the conditions prevalent before the big bang, you're back to square one.
2006-09-11 05:24:41
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answered by Anonymous
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The big bang theory sounds more logical than the belief that the earth is held up by three elephants standing on the back of a giant turtle.
Oh, sorry... you prefer the christian mythology? The one where the sky is held up by a fixed structure called the "firmament" that separates us from the "waters above", and which says rain is what we get when the windows of heaven are open? I can't help but wonder how you square that one with space travel. For that matter, I have trouble squaring the story of the tower of Babel with space travel. Something just doesn't compute...
Anyway, to answer the question... I don't know where the universe came from. Most likely it started with a big bang, but I don't know why there was a big bang - any more than you know where god came from. However, I find "I don't know" to be a much better answer than spinning some fanciful tale of how Bumba got sick and vomited up the sun, moon, stars and land, followed by the animals and mankind. (No, I'm not making that up, the Boshongo people did that for me).
2006-09-10 20:15:26
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answered by Bramblyspam 7
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I believe in a Deity, but the way I see it is that no one can tell whether or not that Deity has a gender, so by my own preference I see the Deity as dual faced, male and female. Since this view doesn't sit well with most patriarchal religions, I'm Wiccan. Wiccans believe a variety of things about the creation of the universe.
And when it comes to that, how are you to know that God, or whatever you want to call the Deity, didn't just hit the sparks for the Big Bang together and let things fly. If the Deity was willing to allow humanity, and perhaps other lifeforms on other planets, develop free will, why not allow the creation process itself to be equally chaotic for the sheer experimentation of it all? How do we know we're not God's seventh grade science project or something, after all? We don't. So just let people believe what they want and don't tell them they're wrong based on the writings of a man who was writing down an oral tradition, something notorious for being distorted through time. (Ever played the telephone game?)
2006-09-10 20:06:08
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answered by Ally 4
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Ah, I do believe in god but not religion and yet I believe that the theory of the big bang is a very possible start and I'm pretty damn sure, from having watched the world around me, that evolution is correct. For me god is energy and love, no more no less. Maybe god was responsible for the big bang...
As for why people feel the need to blame man's actions on 'God'? It's because they want someone to blame other than themselves. Admitting that they are responsible is far too scary.
2006-09-10 20:09:09
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answered by Anonymous
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Where did god come from ?
I'd rather believe in the big bang (Actually I believe in evolution, the big bang is just a theory) , makes more since than an all power fully formed spirit-god creating earth and then hiding.
Then ppl found some moldy old books,
that ppl (who were practically cavemen,
sheep humpers, herders -whatever) wrote and stuck em' together to make some B.S. (people controlling) religion.
2006-09-10 20:46:11
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answered by lilith 7
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All science is discovery. NO scienctist ever created any thing. God gave Adam(Humanity) dominion over the Earth. Ever wonder why this planat isn't named after A Greek or Roman God. If you open a Bible Genesis 1:1-2 you have to absorbe that there is no time frame in those verses. The true translation of the word" was" is" became" See Jeremiah 4:23-29. There was a Earth Age before it became voided out by God.No one knows when the beginning is.
The Earth was not created on the first day LIGHT was created. If you need more info find a good teacher.
2006-09-10 20:24:57
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answered by timex846 3
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The planets formed from the material left over as a result of our sun's formation. As the nebulous cloud condensed and began to rotate, most of the gas condensed into what is now our sun. The remaining material formed what is now the planets and the other bodies in our solar system.
Now tell me where does a god come into that?
You need to stop dreaming the dream and start livening the reality!
And why would a god what to make a organic peace of crap that sits on its rock all day every day and heats everything that it comes in contact with that’s what makes us different from all the other animals we HATE each other the other animals kill to survive we do it because we HATE we hate because where different colours come from different places we really are stupid animals that can't stay happy for more than 5 mins.
2006-09-11 00:04:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Hm... a question like this provokes the following question:
Christians say we all descend from Adam and Eve.
Adam and Eve had 2 sons, 1 killed the other, where do the rest of us come from?
And after the Arc of Noah, are we all supposed to descend from him too?
The Bible is a good book, but it's even more difficult to prove (hence the word FAITH) than the Big Bang theory.
2006-09-10 20:05:21
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answered by Walter W. Krijthe 4
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