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How can satan and his demons be thrown into the lake of fire for eternity if the first earth passes away (stops existing) "Rev 21:1 says "and the first earth passed away"

2006-09-10 12:18:37 · 21 answers · asked by Big E 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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You're looking at it wrong.

Even if the earth passes away, who says that God doesn't have any other place for satan???? Do you deem God so little and weak as to have no power??

As someone said earlier, the bible only contradicts itself to the reader, to those that do not study it enough. For if God were to contradict Himself, He would be called a liar. Yet His very word has stated that He cannot lie.

2006-09-10 12:24:12 · answer #1 · answered by iDefy 2 · 1 1

I am in progress of writing a book called "What's wrong with the bible."
So far it has 42,000 words and I am not even into the new testement.
I'll give you an example of some of the thousands of controdictions!!!!

The earth is not flat!
Revelation 7:1

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners (earth does not have corners) of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.
At this point in time in history they thought the earth was flat and that the winds came up from the sides of the earth.
Revelation 20:8
and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.

Isaiah 41:9
you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”;

Random things!!!
Jesus---???

Numbers 23:19
God is not man, that he should lie,
or a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Has he said, and will he not do it?
Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

Job 33:12 “Behold, in this you are not right. I will answer you, for God is greater than man.

2 Chronicles 6:18 “But will God indeed dwell with man on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain you, how much less this house that I have built!
No eternal life.
Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.

You can not be forgiven for your sin.
God is your only savior!
Isaiah 45:22 “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.
Isaiah 45:15
Truly, you are a God who hides yourself, O God of Israel, the Savior.
Hosea 13:4
But I am the Lord your God from the land of Egypt; you know no God but me, and besides me there is no savior.

Isaiah 45:21
Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the Lord? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me.
GOD SAYS IT HIMSELF!


READ THE BIBLE!!
Every christ-ian is blinded by the light.
Every non christ-ian is lost in the darkness.
Let's all go into the room that is perfectly lit!

2006-09-10 12:46:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Keep reading the section of Rev 21. It is refomed into a new heaven and a new earth which is the location of the lake of fire.

2006-09-10 12:25:12 · answer #3 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 1 0

That Scripture, along with the fate of satan and the demons, is in no way indicative of a contradiction in the Bible.
I hope you are not one of those people who does not believe in the historical accuracy of the Bible. The idea that the Bible cannot be viewed as an accurate historical source is absurd. Never has archaelogy uncovered anything that goes aganist what is written in the Bible. In fact, the oposite is true. For those who would say the Bible is not the Word of God, or that the Bible contains numerous errors I would say this: Paul could say in 2nd Timothy 3:16, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God." That's the Greek word, "theopneustos" meaning "God-Breathed." Every single word was given from God to 40 different men, and 2nd Peter 1:21 adds: "for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." Now that was the Old Testament. The New Testament wasn't in existence when Paul used these verses. He was telling the churches in his letters what had happened in the past, but in John 16:12-13, Jesus talked about the coming of the New Testament. He says, "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when He, the Spirit of Truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come."
That's the New Testamant. And we can say with John 17:17, "Your Word is Truth." Today, we have 66 books written by 40 different individuals on 3 continents covering a period of 1,500 years and there's not one mistake, regardless of what some of the critics say. They haven't studied God's Word enough to know the truth. Among the writers we had kings, poets, philosophers, prophets, scholars and fisherman. And I want you to know we have all of the Word of God today. Someone says, "Yes, but we don't have the original manuscripts" Who said so?
We have copies totalling 24,800. Now, how do we know that they're right? Well, if you take 20 items and you compare them and 19 state one thing and one doesn't, then the one is in error. We've got 24,800 manuscripts that exist today to compare one against another and we have another 80,000 quotations from the church fathers, enough to put the entire Bible together with the exception of 11 verses. Take the 80,000 quotations from the church fathers and the 24,800 manuscripts for a total of 104,800 and you have all of God's Word dozens and hundreds of times. This is so because God's Word is literally flawless. After computers have compared millions, or even billions, of letters in analyzing the 104,800 manuscripts the texts are basically flawless. So, don't listen to the critics. The Bible is in fact God's Word.

2006-09-10 12:44:16 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

You are taking 2 scriptures out of context and trying to make them prove that the Bible is contradictory.

Revelation 20:14 states that the lake of fire is the 2nd death.

2nd death - so what is the 1st death?

Adamic death - the death that Adam brought into the world - death that you can be resurrected from.

2nd death - no resurrection. Permanent death.

So, with that in mind - where is the contradiction? Only contradiction is found when you ASSUME that the lake of fire is an actual earthly thing.

2006-09-10 12:31:39 · answer #5 · answered by grammy_of_twins_plus two 3 · 0 1

Seems pretty obvious. There IS no lake of fire on earth, so it must be somewhere else. Venus comes to mind, as does the Red Spot on Jupiter. But it could be anywhere, even outside our spacetime envelope.

2006-09-10 12:23:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The Bible does not say that the lake of fire will not be on the new earth.

2006-09-10 12:23:00 · answer #7 · answered by TubeDude 4 · 0 1

alot and in many verses for example in Ezekiel 18 :17-20 "He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live. 18 But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people. 19 "Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him"
But in the New Test. and the preachers says that we are born as sinners because we carry the sin of our father ( Adam). The whole christianity is based on that God gave his only son to die for our sin ( Adam's sin) while God Himself said in Ezekiel that nobody is responsable for others sins. Because of alot of contradictions in the bible, my wife and I are Muslims.

2006-09-10 12:28:03 · answer #8 · answered by ahmedragab 2 · 0 0

Please understand that most of the people who wrote the Bible are Jewish. It really helps to learn more about Jewish culture and thinking to understand the Bible better.

Revealations was written by John, one of Jesus' followers, when he was on the island of Patmos. Perhaps if you learn more about his life, it will help you to understand what his dream really meant. How did John see this dream? How do Jews see the end of the world? Do they even believe in the apocalypse? Just a few things to think about.

The only time the Bible contradicts itself is when we try to understand it within the confines of the culture we grew up with.

2006-09-10 12:27:17 · answer #9 · answered by Curious Student 2 · 0 1

Hell is traditionally inside the Earth. But it is not a permanent
place. The Lake of Fire, I feel, is some kind of cosmic recycler.

2006-09-10 12:21:59 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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