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I am a Muslim reading the Bible just for understanding what the Christian religion is about. And my question is if Jesus (peace be upon him) is GOD or Son of God then how come he cried help from God? Anyway can someone tell me the trinity clearly and so I can understand. Also, this is another question. Who exactly knows if the Bible is in its actual form. Can someone show me proof.

I am trying not to offend my Christian brothers and sisters. I just want to know and understand what the religion is.

Answer 1

As salaamu alaikum,

Brother, the word trinity isn't in the actual bible. It was a concept created and voted on by "The Nicean Council". Look it up, wikipedia or whatever.

Also, there is a hadith about not reading the book of the jews and christians (like to gain benefit from it etc). It is halal for the purpose of dawah, so long as it doesn't become so time consuming that it stops you from seeking knowledge, but let me tell you........ there are so many muslims who converted from christianity who already have that obgliation covered ...and I want you to seek answers from Muslims at least as much as you are asking the christians.

You ask a very good question about how can Jesus be God and then call on God for help. Well, as you know, he didn't hang on a cross, but anyway, here's another point for christians - Jesus never, NEVER says in the bible that HE IS GOD or that he is THE SON OF GOD. He says once (at least as it is recorded in the bible) to the pharisees, (paraphrased) YOU SAY THAT I AM THE SON OF GOD.

It was PAUL who had a "revelation" (from the devil, who else) that Jesus was the "son of God." and should be worshipped. He came along I think about 40 years? or more after Jesus was gone. But just about everything after Mathew, Mark, Luke & John was written by Paul. So, keep that in mind. What christians of today are following is really the religion of Paul that he taught.

Answer 2

He did not cry for help, He asked that this cup be passed from him. In other words, he in his human form knew what was going to happen and did not look forward to it. Just like you may know about something that you HAVE to do but do not look forward to because of how it has to be done.
The best way I can describe the Trinity is This.
Look at an EGG> the shell, yolk, and white. they all are different yet are part of the same thing.
The "Dead Sea Scrolls." do support the Bible today, so I am confused as to what the one person prior to me was saying. How can the Trinity be a Lie if the Dead Sea Scrolls are almost exactly the Bible we read today.
Read John 1:1 and 1:13. How can this not support the Trinity. Also, Read Ephesians ch2 v8-9.
This tells you the Greatness of God and what a Christian believes for the most part.
Also as a side note; When Jesus is saying "why have you forsaken me" to The Father , this is because any other time God was with him but because he took our sins upon himself on the Cross God could not be in Sin nor near it. That is why he removed himself from the Sacrifice which was Jesus for our sins.
Good luck,
God Bless

Answer 3

I was taught that the trinity was God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. The trinity is like a three leaf clover--three parts that make a whole. As far as I know the books that are in the Old Testament have been together for thousands of years, perhaps since the time of Moses. The New Testament is a collection of books written by early Christians. I believe the earliest books are Paul's letters to the various churches. I think the gospel of Mark was the earliest one, written in 40 or 50 A.D.

Answer 4

Of the trinity, God is the head (boss) Jesus is the son and the holy spirit is the comforter and sometimes revealer.

They are one and the same with different (jobs). Because understanding God is not something given to us, I can only use a human analogy to help describe but not completely as I am a mere human.

I am a mother, a wife and a sister. I cannot separate these three parts of me from one another, but they are all a part of my whole being.

God is more powerful than I am, so it stands to reason that he can separate part of himself if he so chooses, and this is what he is doing at the moment, as we have the comforter here with us on earth at the moment keeping evil somewhat at bay and shedding light on the truth for us.

The message of the bible is in actual form. Men can translate all they want, but God is all powerful and his true message will come through all translations.

If you believe that Jesus was a great prophet, and you do not believe that he was in the father and the father is in him, then that would make Jesus a lier and a fake and therefore a false prophet, not a great one. That is the one thing that you have to learn about and decide. he cannot be both false and great.

Answer 5

It is very good for you to try and understand another religion, I applaud you.
Jesus is the son of God, he cried out in agony for help from his father,(GOD)
The Trinity is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all in one
The Bible was written by 40 different authors over a period of 1600 years. Every detail of history is completely accurate, the Bible is the only book that roots itself in history so thoroughly and without error.
The Bible contains 2500 prophecies, of these 2000 have already been fulfilled to the letter.
The Bible was originally in Hebrew and Greek and translated into Latin in 405, then in 1384 the first English Bible was produced. then in 1455 after the printing press was developed the Bible was the first book to be printed. Before the printing press it was published by hand, it took many many hours, and it was a very tedious job, that was taken very seriously the people doing this were very careful to print exactly what they were suppose to.

Answer 6

Jesus said you must be born again.If you are not and do not have the Holy Spirit you will not be able to understand the word.In the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh and dwelt among men.This is in reference to Jesus that became Lord of Lords and King of Kings through his obedience to God the Father.
God is the Father,Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth which is Gods Spirit.As far as actual proof there is none it is through Faith in God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit that the word can be rightly divided or understood.

Answer 7

Number 1: True Christianity is not a religion: It is a 'PERSONAL' relationship!!

Number 2: Jesus is Gods Son/God as in the Trinity... He was also a 'Man' with ‘Human’ emotion!!

Number 3: If you really are interested in learning about our faith & Christianity... take a look at this site: -

http://christiananswers.net//directry.html

Here you will find answers the questions above and many more… God bless you and lead you to the truth of Him!!

Shalom!!

Answer 8

First of all congrats on being open minded enough to read Bible. Second, Jesus came to show us the way to the Father. third, trinity is difficult but I will try. God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, three separate entities who are omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, and have always existed and always will. That always existed part even throws me for a loop cause I just can't explain the no beginning part. Fourth- “The 66 books of the Bible were written on three continents. In three languages. By about 40 different people (kings, shepherds, fishermen, priests, and a physician). Over a period of about 1500 years. On the most controversial subjects. By people who in most cases had never met. By authors whose education and background varied greatly. Yet all 66 books maintain harmony with each other…as if written by one great mind. And indeed it was.” 2 Peter 1 verse 21 “Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy spirit” Critics of the Bible have tried to say that certain “historical statements” in the Bible are not accurate but archaeologists have uncovered many discoveries that have prooven(sp?) the history of the Bible as accurate. The principles and the prophecies of the old testament as well as its history holds for us today as much relevance as it did for the Israelites in Jesus day and it blends perfectly with the new testament. Peace to you.

Answer 9

The closest I can get you to the first part of your question is to have you look at water.

I can compare the trinity to water.

Water can be ice, steam and liquid.

Think of the trinity like that.

God can be Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

As far as the second part of your question is concerned, there is a movie out and I believe the name is something like "How The Bible Got Its Origin" I hope I got the title right. It is a must see for anyone curious as to how the Bible was put together.

I hope this helps. It is good to question.

Answer 10

I did a search on the net and found this.

http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq350.html

It's not really easy to explain, but this does a pretty good job.

I believe the reason he cried out to God is that when on the cross, with everyone's sin upon him, he was separated from God for the first time, since God can't look upon sin. The separation from God was the worst punishment-worse than the physical pain.

And if you want to see the Bible in its original form, you would have to read the Hebrew text (old testament) and the Greek text (new testament). Some things changed meaning in translation to English. You can get a concordance (like Strong's concordance) to help you in your studies.