Why do unbelievers think the teaching of hell is a reason not to believe?

Question

As opposed to being understanding, and trusting God, that bcause he is love, holy, just, ect... , he will judge people rightly according to how much knowledge they have, their heart and life, for example.
At the end of the day, are you not simply just being unwilling to be understanding and trusting toward God? I mean if judges in our legal system have to know many things about the law, and consider many things in their effort to make a just decision, how much more is God going to do that? I think skeptics are wrong for not trusting God regarding eternal judgement, sin, hell, ect... .

rukidding - But if you don't believe in God, your being unreasonable, because creationism is the explanation for everything. And there is no better explanation. Unless you believe that nothing +nothing = something.

moonshine - Thats nice. Its just that alot of folks have many different "reasons" for why they think the scriptures are not true, when really their issues are because of their own unwillingness to study the scriptures, to be uderstanding, and trusting toward God. Don't you think the Creator of the heavans and Earth, KNOWS what he is doing.

Jen - Ok, but you know how people will point out certain things regarding the Bible from a negative perspective, as reasons why they do not believe, which in reality are NOT good reasons at all.

duckphup - Because people got their science wrong, there is no God?

evil atheist - It is interesting that the Word says that God is light, and that he upholds all things with the word of his power. What you call energy that can neither be created nor destroyed IS God's power! It makes perfect sense, as God is eternal.

wee mary ann - In spite of creation, you don't believe in God the creator? In spite of the FACT that there is no explanation for the uniqueness of people on Earth, god-like when compared to the animal kingdom, regarding people's abilities, accomplishments, knowledge,ect....
No explanation for this other than Gen 1:27. " And God created people in his image".

Qchan05 - You need to think more. What is a person saying when they say there is no God? Its the implications of that which ARE very foolish. For example, it could imply that matter simply popped into existence at some point in eternity past, and an almost infinite number of impossible "accidents" happened during the evolution process, and as a result, the complexities and intricacies of the universe NOT to mention LIFE. Hows that.

evilatheist - The Miller- Urey experiments are no where near conclusive, regarding about what you are implying, which is that life could have began on its own. You are taking a HUGE leap from those experiments to what you are trying to say.

Answer 1

Provide reliable, empirical evidence supporting the existence of your god. Otherwise, your assertions are baseless (and seem quite arrogant), and should be treated with nothing but skepticism.

Edit: With your additional comments, you have simply continued to ignore my request. Continuing to make assertions without evidence is both highly arrogant and highly dubious. If your beliefs are valid, please support them.

Also, your statement that "nothing + nothing = something," which is clearly aimed at the theory of evolution, comes off as highly ignorant. No scientist has ever made the claim that "something comes from nothing." Due to this concept and the law of conservation of mass and energy, it has been ascertained by scientists that the matter which compromises the universe has always existed. And the now-famous Miller-Urey experiments showed that amino acids, the building-blocks of life, can indeed be produced by non-living elements. For education purposes, I would advise you to visit these sites:

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Where%20universe%20from.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey

Edit:

You wrote: "evil atheist - It is interesting that the Word says that God is light, and that he upholds all things with the word of his power. What you call energy that can neither be created nor destroyed IS God's power! It makes perfect sense, as God is eternal."

My response: That makes absolutely no sense, does not follow a logical procession of ideas, and is unsupported by any evidence.

You wrote: "evilatheist - The Miller- Urey experiments are no where near conclusive, regarding about what you are implying, which is that life could have began on its own. You are taking a HUGE leap from those experiments to what you are trying to say."

My response: Why is that? The Miller-Urey experiments showed that it is possible for living matter to arise from non-living elements. The elements would have already been present, and the conditions on Earth at the time were very likely what was replicated in the experiments. What is this, "huge leap?"

You wrote: "rukidding - But if you don't believe in God, your being unreasonable, because creationism is the explanation for everything. And there is no better explanation. Unless you believe that nothing +nothing = something."

My response: If creationism explains everything, how does it explain the fossil record? And since you are seem to be so adamant about the universe and Earth's organisms being unable to arise naturally, on their own, how did your god come into existence? Bear in mind that the same logic that you applied to the universe and Earth's lifeforms can be applied to your god.

You wrote: "moonshine - Thats nice. Its just that alot of folks have many different "reasons" for why they think the scriptures are not true, when really their issues are because of their own unwillingness to study the scriptures, to be uderstanding, and trusting toward God. Don't you think the Creator of the heavans and Earth, KNOWS what he is doing."

My response: Do you have evidence for your claims that people who believe the scriptures to be untrue are simply unwilling to study them? I find that hard to believe, especially since I have studied them. I think it has more to do with passages such as these:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Also, it does not make sense to ask, "Don't you think the ruler of the universe knows what he's doing?" when you are unable to supply evidence for the existence of this alleged ruler.

You wrote: "Jen - Ok, but you know how people will point out certain things regarding the Bible from a negative perspective, as reasons why they do not believe, which in reality are NOT good reasons at all."

My response: How is that different from pointing out passages in scripture from a positive perspective?

You wrote: "duckphup - Because people got their science wrong, there is no God?"

My response: That isn't science. Those were spread by Christians, and most of those are found in the bible. Men of science were tortured and killed for disagreeing.

You wrote: "wee mary ann - In spite of creation, you don't believe in God the creator? In spite of the FACT that there is no explanation for the uniqueness of people on Earth, god-like when compared to the animal kingdom, regarding people's abilities, accomplishments, knowledge,ect....
No explanation for this other than Gen 1:27. " And God created people in his image"."

My response: "God-like?" How are we "god-like?" We are the most mentally-advanced species, but we are vastly lacking in other areas, such as our senses, our body structures, and certainly our "human frailty," which would imply anything except that humans are made in the image of a divine being.

You wrote: "Qchan05 - You need to think more. What is a person saying when they say there is no God? Its the implications of that which ARE very foolish. For example, it could imply that matter simply popped into existence at some point in eternity past, and an almost infinite number of impossible "accidents" happened during the evolution process, and as a result, the complexities and intricacies of the universe NOT to mention LIFE. Hows that."

My response: Since when do scientists claim that matter simply "popped into existence." I'll answer that one: they don't. Christians do. You are badly lacking in scientific knowledge. Allow me to provide the resources for you to educate yourself:

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Where%20universe%20from.htm

(I realize that I already posted this, but I figure that if I keep posting it, you might actually read it. Call me an optimist)

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000D4FEC-7D5B-1D07-8E49809EC588EEDF&sc=I100322

(in the last source, look at #8, which debunks your misconceptions expressed in your last statement)

Answer 2

The idea that "if you don't believe you'll go to Hell" is a mere scare-tactic. That's all. If someone converts just because of that, it's not a true conversion, because he wouldn't love God, he would be afraid of him. People should see a god as a loving entity, not as a punishing one. Lots of non-believers, therefore, don't want to convert because they don't want to be a part of something that's based on fear. Because frankly, it's bullsh*t.

Also, if they don't believe in God or heaven, how could you expect them believe in hell?

Frankly, I find your attitude to be extremely arrogant, and I'm not even an atheist. "If you don't believe in God, you're being unreasonable"? What?? I don't even know where to BEGIN with that sentence.

You don't seem to have entertained the possibility that there might be other viewpoints out there, and that they're just as valid as yours.

EDIT: Please read up a little more on evolution and the Big Bang theory. Then compare that belief to yours, objectively. Then we'll talk.

Answer 3

I have studied the Bible daily for years, KJV. Using the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible. I look up each word in each verse and have found out many things. One of the things that I have found out is that there is no hell. And, yes, I do believe, I talk to the Lord daily. I also believe that people should not try to push their beliefs on to others. Everyone is entitled to believe the way they want.

Answer 4

It is easier to understand why non-Christians don't believe in Hell than it it is to understand why some who call themselves Christians choose not to believe in Hell. I don't see how this question is trying to shove a "version" of the Bible at anyone. Believe what you want to but it is very clear there is a Hell if you read the Bible and don't twist what you read into what sounds nice to you.

Answer 5

I believe what I believe. It is not going to change with somebody telling me I am going to hell. I was a christian and was "saved". I think now that I am old enough and have reasearched that it is a bunch of crap...There is NOTHING anybody can say to change my beliefs..

My own grandma told me I was going to hell and I did not change. So what makes you think a stranger is going to make me change. When God or the Devil show's me his face then I will believe.

I believe on earth based religion were we have to be responisble for our own actions and can not use a get out of hell ticket for repenting our sins. In your beliefs if a person says I am sorry lord for killing this man please forgive me and save me...Well then they are saved and go to your heaven. I can not believe in something like that..People have to be held responsible for there action!!!!

Answer 6

I dont choose to practice any religion and I have nothing against any neither. I dont believe in hell and therefor that haves nothing to do with my reason to not believe. However Im sure hell is much nicer at least there I wouldn't have to deal with the bible thumpers like your self.

Answer 7

What you are saying is irrelevant if a person don't believe that God exists in the first place. There is a difference between consciously turning your back on God and not believing he is even there to turn your back on.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

I know of no unbelievers who "... think the teaching of hell is a reason not to believe." This offends me. I am offended by stupidity, willful ignorance and self delusion... which pretty much sums up the Abrahamic death cults of desert monotheism (Judaism, Christianity, Islam).

It offends me to know that three-quarters of the population of the USA are infected with some sort of insidious mental virus that leads them to the insane certainty that the myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions of a bunch of ignorant Bronze Age fishermen and wandering goat herders represent some kind of cosmic 'TRUTH' about fundamental aspects of existence and reality.

It offends me to know that so many people dwell in a delusional reality in which a 6,000 year-old Earth is seperated from a 6,000 year-old Heaven by a solid 'firmament' structure (the sky).

I am offended by the fact that these people believe that they inhabit a magical universe, which they share with talking snakes (with legs) and donkeys, a shepherd staff that turns into an asp, demons chased out of people and into pigs, friendly spirits, evil spirits, walking on water, multiplying loaves and fishes, food falling from the sky, conception by a ghost, people raised from the dead, the sun stopping in its tracks, parting seas, people being bodily sucked up into heaven (which, by the way, lies on the 'other side' of the sky), world-wide flood that drowned the earth to a depth of 40 feet above the tallest mountain, creating people from a dust bunny and a rib, a magical tree of knowledge, god speaking from a burning bush... and ritual cannibalism, by eating god in the form of a cracker.

In a sane world, anybody running around spouting ANY of that crap, would be locked up in the State Farm for the Funny. Apparently, though, mass insanity seems to convey some sort of free pass for the loony.

It offends me to know that in our society, irrational, deluded people who ACTUALLY BELIEVE such nonsense is TRUE are permitted to vote, hold public office, procreate, and shape the minds trusting, vulnerable children.

You dare to suggest that people who DON'T believe all of that ludicrous crap need help?

Get a grip.

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"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion." ~ Robert M. Pirsig

Answer 10

The reason not to believe is because all evidence overwhelmingly shows that there is no basis to religion in reality other than the sociological. Hell is used as just one of the many absurdities of religion to demonstrate this.