Why do people keep saying that we don’t have to follow the old testament, when Jesus followed a very large part of it & he even quotes from it & he also says he isn't here to....
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
He fulfilled the prophecies about his coming. That doesn’t mean to erase the law; there are more than the 10 we must follow. .
Yes the bible says you must believe in Jesus to come to the father, but you must hear his words in a whole.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved.
His blood didn't erase law. It erased sin. His death didn’t replace the laws of the Old Testament. He taught points in the bible that the old testament followers either were misinterpreting & he taught where they were not following certain laws that god gave them.
If you dispute it say what Jesus says not other prophets.
2006-09-10 06:39:21 · 9 answers · asked by angelchele 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
State what Jesus said. When you dispute using others words you are saying they are more right than Jesus.
2006-09-10 06:39:53 · update #1
Those who bring up certain laws that cause conflict understand this. In historical facts it has been proven that CERTAIN priests made more laws to the time of Jesus to cause people to follow their ways and that is part of the reason Jesus had the most disputes of some of the laws. So many people only follow the bible by itself. You need to read on all things connected to the bible no different than reading a dictionary to interpret the meaning in a certain word.
2006-09-10 11:03:12 · update #2
The person who said this,
Gal 2:16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
My question is what backs his word, Paul’s own decision or does Paul have Jesus own words to back it up. If so where does Jesus say this?
I know faith is part of believing Paul is getting the word from Jesus and god. It’s theses things that cause people to question scripture.
Jesus sacrificed his life that we will live without sin. Very true, but to know our sins we must know and follow laws that these sins are based from. So that we know what sins to avoid. Not pick and choose those sins.
The sacrificial law was replaced by Jesus so all scripture based on sacrificing has its replacement. When do the other laws to know where sin falls have a replacement?
2006-09-10 11:05:17 · update #3
The person who said…..
Are you wearing clothing of mixed fibers? If I went by this one in today’s time I would be poorer than I am today. I shop from thrift stores because I can’t afford new fancy made clothes. People donate clothes without tags for me to check that option as well. If I was able to do this I would. This is one law I have asked gods forgiveness for doing this. He knows the why, if he wanted this to change for me he would.
Are you eating ham, pork chops, bacon? That I can answer with no I don’t eat these things because its all fatting foods nothing to do with the biblical reason, but personal health.
Are you eating lobster or shrimp? This one I had to learn, I have never had lobster. It doesn’t appeal to me. Shrimp I use to eat. But stopped eating when I learned that both are bottom feeders and they eat garbage, dead remains ECT. Why would I eat garbage? The same also goes with catfish as a bottom feeder.
2006-09-10 11:06:14 · update #4
Are you eating cheeseburgers? This law you need to really understand.
(Those who don’t understand why she says this let me explain.)
The bible says in….
Exo 23:19 The first of the first-fruits of thy ground thou shalt bring into the house of Jehovah thy God. Thou shalt not boil a kid in it mother's milk.
If a cow from one farm is cut up and given as meat to another farmer and the cow from that farmer makes cheeses. That is where that changes unless you knowing cut up an offspring you received from the other farmer. You can’t eat the same animal and same animals milk products or that of its own Child together. When you follow that law.
2006-09-10 11:07:59 · update #5
Yes I am a Sabbath follower. I am not Jewish; I am actually Pentecostal with many Jewish beliefs. Yes you can do both.
thats like a democrate who still believes in some of the same republical issues.
as far as home schooling tried it and my kids need more help than i can give especially to make it in the work force of today. church connected schools dont help poor families, at least not in my state.
if i found a church that did have its doors open everyday that was biblically correct i would do that too.
2006-09-10 11:22:35 · update #6
It is because Paul said that the Hebrew Bible wasn't required anymore.
2006-09-10 06:41:55 · answer #1 · answered by Mrs. Pears 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
OK I cant do any better then Paul. Here goes.
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, [is] therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
Gal 2:18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
Gal 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
2006-09-10 13:50:23 · answer #2 · answered by Bye Bye 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't know why it's happening. Are people really saying that we don't have to follow the Old Testament, or that we aren't bound by the old covenant?
The O.T. is the old covenant that God had with people. When he sent his Son, he created a new covenant.
In my experience, accepting Jesus means that the law comes alive in my soul. Before Christ, people followed the law, but it was an outward thing. The law was the law, and people followed it or disobeyed it. When Christ came, died, and fulfilled the law, he brought it to life, so that when you accept salvation through him, the law awakens inside you.
This is a hard thing to describe unless people have experienced it. It is the difference between following the law because you "have to" and following the law because you want to--and you want to because you come to love it, when love is awakened in your soul.
2006-09-10 13:45:09 · answer #3 · answered by Gestalt 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Those who advocate adherence to the Law Covenant fail to remember that it ONLY APPLIED TO ISRAEL. That Covenant (the "Mosaic Law") was bilateral, with Jehovah agreeing to protect Israel and Israel agreeing to obey those commands.
No other parties agreed to it.
(Psalm 147:19-20) He [Jehovah] is telling his word to Jacob, His regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. 20 He has not done that way to any other nation; And as for his judicial decisions, they have not known them. Praise Jah, you people!
The so-called "Old Testament" actually mentions several true worshippers who did *NOT* follow the Mosaic Law, such as Enoch and Noah. Even men of faith who lived during and AFTER Abraham were not subject to the Mosaic Law, such as Shem, Melchizedek, Lot, and Job.
By contrast, Jesus established a new covenant that applied to all of mankind, not just the Jews and their proselytes. The so-called "New Testament" clearly explains how true worshippers were to understand this *NEW* covenant:
(Galatians 3:13) Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law
(Ephesians 2:15) By means of his flesh he [Jesus] abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees
(Colossians 2:13-14) He [Jesus] kindly forgave us all our trespasses 14 and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us; and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake
(Hebrews 9:15) So that is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that, because a death has occurred for their release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, the ones who have been called might receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance.
Learn more:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/1996/2/1/what_must_we_do.htm
2006-09-12 17:36:13 · answer #4 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If what you believe what you are stating, why are you not keeping the whole law, yourself? Are you keeping the laws of the sacrifice?
Are you wearing clothing of mixed fibers?
Are you eating ham, pork chops, bacon?
Are you eating lobster or shrimp?
Are you eating cheeseburgers?
There are 613 laws, if you intend to be justified by keeping the law, you'd better learn all of them and keep each one diligently.
For instance, the law of the Sabbath...you may not do any menial work on that day, nor may you pay anyone else to do any such work for you. You may not shop, eat at restaurants, or gas up your car on the Sabbath. Since the Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday, and ends at sundown on Saturday, if you go to church after sundown, you are, in effect, going to church on Sunday.
Oh, and you need to show up in church at least once every day, since the Temple or local synagogue was open for worship every day. You should not send your kids to public school, in Jesus' time, children were educated at the synagogue.
Whew, if you're gonna keep the entire OT law, you've got your work cut out for you, Hun.
As for me, I will do my best to follow Jesus, understanding that He is the sacrifice for my sin, and that He is my advocate with the Father. I will worship Him every day. I will obey His commandment to love others as best I can. I will rest on Saturday, as He commanded, and I will enjoy fellowship with other Christians on Sunday, and any other time I have the opportunity. I know in Whom I have believed, and I am assured that He is able...He is also the Lord of the Sabbath, and it is Jesus Who stated that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
2006-09-10 14:05:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Different interpretations and different denominations choose to follow differnet books.
Some reject the Old Testament as no longer being applicable, since they consider everything worth following to be contained in the rest of the New Testament.
You, and many others, continue to embrace the Old Testament, for the reasons you stated above.
It's just a matter of different religious interpretations of what is valid.
{EDIT} And if you choose to reject what someone else says because they can't prove that Jesus agreed, then that's your choice. As I said, it's all a matter of what each person chooses to believe
2006-09-10 13:43:20 · answer #6 · answered by coragryph 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The old testament is very powerful.
Case in point: When African Americans used for salves got a hold of it, it justified the violence to rid themselves of slavery.
If someone is telling you to disreguard a document that brought about social change to advance human rights, I'd be further concerned about what else they want you to do.
2006-09-10 13:47:07 · answer #7 · answered by OhIdonno 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because, if they destroy the 4th commandment, then they get to do anything that they want and still get to go to heaven. You and I both know that that will never happen (them going to heaven), but they would rather be deluded and dumb then saved and happy. Jesus reiterated all 10 of the 10 commandments. Check out Mark 2:27,28.
2006-09-10 13:44:58 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus change none of the law, he added to it!
Peter, and Paul did most of the changing!
The logic of the change is this, Christ is our sacrifice once and for all, doing away with all laws of sacrifice.
And it is better to live in Christ than in the Law!
2006-09-10 15:42:34 · answer #9 · answered by Grandreal 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋