Do ceationists believe EVERYTHING the bible says?

Question

Some Christians still believe sun revolves around the earth because they take the Bible literally. For example, Joshua commanded the sun to stop, not the earth to stop spinning. Walter Lang published the Bible-Science Newsletter in the mid-1960’s with articles from strict Biblical literalists who believed the earth was the center of the universe and the sun revolves around the earth. They quote verses such as Psalm 93:1 which states, "the world also is established, that it cannot be moved" (KJV). Therefore, the earth does not spin around on its axis or orbit the sun, but according to Joshua 10:12 it is the sun that is moving around the earth.

If the bible is wrong on this, how many more fantasies are in there? Jesus? The whole bible?

Answer 1

Mojo my man!
Let's look at that verse...
12Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

It is clear to see that this is speaking of not seeing the sun's movement across the sky. Much as wheen people say sunrise and sunset. People gauge it by where it is in the sky. Does that mean they think that the earth sits still. Well, if the Bible said so, I would! But it does not. And should not be interpreted that way.
Good job Mojo. You all need to understand, Mojo has a weird way of witnessing. He likes to point out things his previous atheist friends say. He has not yet come out to them to show what a believer he really is. You go Mojo!!!

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Answer 2

Unfortunately ignorance and falsehood always surround understanding and truth. Where there is mud there must be water.

I suggest that you ignore the mud and go for the water. Lest you become like the mud fish you are mocking.

I think most everyone who finds truth in the Bible is a creationist or was probably a creationist before they had any revelation.

Not all creationists believe everything in the Bible while others do. The old Methodists used to teach that you only had to believe what was needed for your own salvation. Their point was that God just recorded peoples actions and understanding and left it for an example of "what not to do."

The majority of Bible believers, atheists and agnostics believe what other people say about the Bible. In most cases you cannot find their assertions anywhere in the Bible.

If they do not take someone elses word for it; they read it and make their own assumptions much as you do with Joshua 10:12. That section of Scripture says nothing about the sun orbiting the earth.

By hindsight you feel safe in your assumption. I just want to point out that your assumption moves from what is recorded. It is a simple step like yours that resulted in people believing the earth was flat, that man has only been here 6,000 years, etc., etc., etc.

It has been so long since I delt with the lost day that I have lost my recall. With regard to Psalm 93, there is a vast difference between the world and the earth. I do recall a missing day in human calculations of time; relative time observed with relative understanding.

Answer 3

I read the same scriptures that you do and I don't even remotely get those interpretations. I don't believe for one second that Joshua was teaching that the sun revolved around the earth. When the weatherman says that the sun will rise at 6:01 AM he am not making any suggestion that the sun is revolving around the earth, its all perspective of where you are speaking from and who you are speaking to. Nor do I get that idea from Psalm 93. The earth is established (in its orbit) and it can't be moved. If you think I am wrong, then go and move the earth out of its orbit. Boy are you ever hard up for scriptures to use. If the Bible clearly taught what you say, you should be able to come up with better verses than that.

Answer 4

Wow. Great arguement and excellent point. Science proved the sun concept was false, maybe it will prove all the other accounts are false also. It just goes to show the Bible only reflects the thoughts of society when the book was written. In a previous post I suggested that the bible was merely a book of legends written by the powerful people at the time to provide the people with answers why things were, hence building a trust and allowing the powerful people to rule the less empowered people by developing a sense of fear.

Answer 5

I have had a few interesting debates with creationists.
basically you could say that they all have their own beliefs and own agendas.
you could roughly split them into 3 groups:
a) some believe in the literal truth of every word in the bible (american creationists particularly like the KJV for some reason)
b) some like to pick and choose what bits to believe. they might accept adam and eve, and Noahs ark, but may be a bit wooly on 7 literal days of creation
c) Some like to add their own bits and pieces, they try and work dinosaurs into bible passages, and some elements will even 'stretch the truth'...........It's always a good idea to have a bible handy to check things they say.

Answer 6

The Bible is correct. Errant interpretations by people are the problem.
Look at the verses in context and see what they say. The Bible isn't the only book that is taken out of context. Any book or opinion is able to be given the same treatment.

Answer 7

Creationists believe in the bits of the Bible that suit them.
They can't tell you where God came from, and they don't accept that it was Solomon not Mohamed who warned about the dangers of alcohol.
If you look hard enough you can justify most of your actions with passages from the Bible. Like South Africa and Apartheid.

Answer 8

Gosh.
To address your questions:
1) Yes, they do. All evidence to the contrary, they choose to believe exactly the world described in the book.
2)Too many to list. Yes, Son O'God too. Yes, the whole thing.

See, that doesn't matter to the real fundamentalists ... reality is what they want it to be. They construct their world-view from whole cloth, building a fantastical world in which skydaddy watches over them, guiding their every bowel movement, promising them that when they turn to wormfood, they will be really really happy.

And they call Trekkies mad.

Answer 9

Hey Mr.Mojo

just looked at all your Yahoo questions -

Do you really want answers to your questions -

Sounds to me like you're trying to make God look silly -

God cannot be mocked - whatever a man sows that he will also reap. Gal 6:7

If you really want answers, the BIble says
Seek me and you will find me if you seek me with all your heart....Jer 29:13

are you really doing that?

Answer 10

the bible is very economical with the truth. Jesus escaped crucifixion and fled to India.