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i have been to seveal catholic church festivals all the ones i have been to involve lots of food lots of beer and 99% of the games there are games of chance(gambling) how is this ok in the eyes of the lord?

2006-08-14 16:44:08 · 10 answers · asked by specal k 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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+ Food +

You list three reasons that these festivals are evil. The first is food. I don't know why you list food. Please clarify.

+ Alcohol +

Jesus told them, "Fill the jars with water." So they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Draw some out now and take it to the headwaiter." So they took it. And when the headwaiter tasted the water that had become wine, ... (John 2:7-9)

Wine is used throughout both the Old and New Testaments. The first recorded miracle of Jesus was to turn water in wine at the wedding in Cana.

It is true that we should not become drunk but used in moderation, wine is a biblically acceptable beverage.

Go, eat your bread with joy and drink your wine with a merry heart, because it is now that God favors your works. (Ecclesiastes 9:7)

What would Jesus do? Jesus had a cup of wine with dinner.

If some people wish to totally forego alcohol to eliminate the temptation to over indulge, that's fine. But I don't think they should force that unbiblical teaching onto others.

+ Games +

You and I both know that no real and illegal gambling goes on at these festivals. I also question your 99% games of chance.

Is trying to throw a ping pong ball into a bowl to win a goldfish considered gambling?

Having fun while you donate you money to a good cause is not a bad thing.

Festivals not only raise money for charitable causes, they also bring the faith community closer together.

With love in Christ.

2006-08-14 17:06:15 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 1

Why?

#1. There is no theological prohibition against beer or alcoholic beverages. Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine. Paul even told Timothy to take a little wine for his bad stomach. The prohibition is to not "Chase strong drink"...to not get intoxicated.

#2. Everyone going there knows its for the Parish to raise money so the games of chance don't mean much. People don't go there to clean the church out but to leave money with it.

Keep it all in its proper perspective people, please. You can't possibly believe people are going to these things to get drunk and win the big jackpot...how asinine.

P.S. Dear CHRISTIANKNIGHT:

With your posted resume everytime you answer a question, one would think you had a brain. Can you not tell the difference between a family oriented fun festival intended to raise church funds and actual worship? Obviously not.

2006-08-14 16:49:16 · answer #2 · answered by Augustine 6 · 0 0

Sunday Worship IS Biblical: Isaiah 1:13 - God begins to reveal His displeasure with the Sabbath. Matt. 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; John 20:1,19- the Gospel writers purposely reveal Jesus' resurrection and appearances were on Sunday. This is because Sunday had now become the most important day in the life of the Church. Acts 20:7 - this text shows the apostolic tradition of gathering together to celebrate the Eucharist on Sunday, the "first day of the week." Luke documents the principle worship was on Sunday because this was one of the departures from the Jewish form of worship. 1 Cor. 16:2 - Paul instructs the Corinthians to make contributions to the churches "on the first day of the week," which is Sunday. This is because the primary day of Christian worship is Sunday. Col. 2:16-17 - Paul teaches that the Sabbath was only a shadow of what was fulfilled in Christ, and says "let no one pass judgment any more over a Sabbath." 2 Thess. 2:15 - we are to hold fast to apostolic tradition, whether it is oral or written. The 2,000 year-old tradition of the Church is that the apostles changed the Sabbath day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. Heb. 4:8-9 - regarding the day of rest, if Joshua had given rest, God would not later speak of "another day," which is Sunday, the new Sabbath. Sunday is the first day of the week and the first day of the new creation brought about by our Lord's resurrection, which was on Sunday. Heb. 7:12 - when there is a change in the priesthood, there is a change in the law as well. Because we have a new Priest and a new sacrifice, we also have a new day of worship, which is Sunday. Rev 1:10 - John specifically points out that he witnesses the heavenly Eucharistic liturgy on Sunday, the Lord's day, the new day of rest in Christ. Matt. 16:19; 18:18 - whatever the Church binds on earth is bound in heaven. Since the resurrection, Mass has been principally celebrated on Sunday.

2016-03-27 02:07:35 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Alcoholic beverages should be used with moderation also food. Actually, games of chance could constitute venial sin under certain circumstances at least according to St. Francis de Sales (Doctor of the Church).
But all this does not make the festivals evil it is only persons who can sin; and we're all sinners by the way.
The festivals of Holy Church are holy because they commemorate holy persons the Saints, because we do holy things: attend Holy Mass. And because during these days we offer thanks and adoration to the Most Holy God.

2006-08-15 00:49:02 · answer #4 · answered by zorro 2 · 0 0

Spekal,

You can be sure that they are not ok. In fact, even having the festivals is a serious sin that violates the regulative principle of worship in the Holy Scripture. The English Puritans and Reformers like John Calvin detested Romanist holy days and considered them to be vain will worship. They are surely contrary to the scripture, and we may not worship God in any manner that has not been specifically authorized by the Word of God. We may therefore not invent feast days or unique manmade ways of worshipping Him.

That they add gambling and winebibbing to the celebrations is even more evidence of the influence of the devil.

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2006-08-14 16:49:05 · answer #5 · answered by ChristianKnight 1 · 1 2

1. Jesus drank wine. As long as people don't get drunk, it's fine.

2. Once again, as long as people aren't endangering the well-being of themselves or their families by gambling all their money away, there's nothing wrong with that.

I only believe that my Church is infallible. I don't believe, nor does it follow, that all Catholics are impeccable.

2006-08-14 16:50:42 · answer #6 · answered by mle_trogdor2000 2 · 1 1

They are evil. Pagan customs mixed with Christianity.

2006-08-14 17:02:46 · answer #7 · answered by SEOplanNOW.com 7 · 1 0

I am with you on that one!!!

2006-08-14 16:48:46 · answer #8 · answered by sweet cheeks 3 · 1 1

gotta remember, catholicism is mostly based on lies, so i wouldnt be really suprised by that.

2006-08-14 16:49:58 · answer #9 · answered by grimreaper00i 1 · 1 1

yeah that dont sound very christ centered to me

2006-08-14 16:50:28 · answer #10 · answered by duh 2 · 1 1

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