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if we don't find terms like "god the son" "god the holy spirit"
"trinity" 3 co equal, co eternal.........., in the bible anywhere, how can it be the truth, shouldn't our faith be the word of God only???? I am not asking for a definition or explanation of the trinity or the water example just an answer to this question, as I asked in curtousy please answer in like mind

2006-08-14 13:16:40 · 5 answers · asked by smncoll 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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the trinity is not in the bible because. Jesus was God manifested in the flesh . read St. John 1:1-14.
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2006-08-14 13:26:09 · answer #1 · answered by mimi 1 · 0 1

How can it be the truth, it isn't true

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

2006-08-14 22:49:15 · answer #2 · answered by BJ 7 · 1 0

Well, in Genesis God uses the plural. 'Let us make him in our image,' etc. Jesus says 'the Father and I are one.' He also says that he's been with the Father since the beginning. After the Resurrection, he tells the Apostles that he will not leave them abandoned, but will be with them always, and then the Holy Spirit descends upon them. Thomas cries out to Jesus 'my Lord and my God.' Surely if he were wrong, Jesus would have corrected such a gross error. In Matthew 28:19 Jesus says to baptize people 'in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.' You may not believe in the Trinity, but looking at the evidence, you have to at least admit that there's a case for it.

2006-08-14 21:59:32 · answer #3 · answered by Caritas 6 · 0 0

Trinity language is not found in the Bible and whatever imagery can be gleaned in the biblical text is a matter of hindight power. Once you have the dogma, then you ought to find "references" to Trinity. Christian and all that I am I actually don't care about the Trinity which is frankly a sort of a contraption that put theology at odds.

2006-08-14 21:58:04 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I am LDS (Mormon) and we believe that the Godhead is made of three seperate beings, God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. This confusion all comes from where the Bible says they are one. They understand this in a literal way rather than figuratively. They are not one being, but one in purpose.

2006-08-14 20:24:47 · answer #5 · answered by lovin' life 3 · 0 0

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