Let's assume that you are in church, and in a conversation about homosexuals...?

Question

sitting next to you is a young man (we will use a man as women homosexuals or lesbians are more widely acceptable, don't ask me why) who has developed homosexual feelings, and is confused as this is in conflict with his Christianity. This young man goes home and hangs himself, and in his suicide not implicates that he killed himself because he was homosexual and had heard how his own congregation felt about them. How would you feel about yourself? A man takes his life because of your pettyness.
Since I am sure that no one has ever been in a situation like this, I am sure to get answers like "that would never happen". I know it's a stretch but try to use your imagination.

O.K just a guy, are you talking about imminent danger of a car hitting me, or the imminent danger my soul (which isn't mine to begin with) is in by not accepting your God. Or are you saying I am in imminent physical danger from you because I don't accept your God. I am using my imagination. Anything else?

O.K just a guy, are you talking about imminent danger of a car hitting me, or the imminent danger my soul (which isn't mine to begin with) is in by not accepting your God. Or are you saying I am in imminent physical danger from you because I don't accept your God. I am using my imagination. Anything else?

Answer 1

If Christians do not call sin what it is, we are not practicing truth.

However, if we are practicing hate, we ourselves are in danger of judgment (and not true Christians, as we are not subjected to Jesus' lordship).

It's a touchy subject, for sure, but sin is sin. Fornication is sin, homosexuality is sin, blasphemy, drunkenness, lying, hypocrisy. And we MUST acknowledge what God expects of redeemed lives.

Sin makes people feel guilty. That's the result of being human and having a conscience. So if he killed himself because his own conscience convicted him, then he murdered himself before he had the opportunity to be redeemed. If he killed himself because he felt _hate_ (which is different, whether or not you acknowledge that), then his blood is partially on the hands of his haters.

What Christians need to realize more is that we should focus on being worthy of what God has called us to. We cannot and should not expect non-Christians to simply stop sinning. They are of the world and they will act like the world. We have to meet them where they are, as Christ would do, and offer grace.

But God's grace isn't cheap... it comes with the demand that a person realizes his sin. That's where the fine line comes in. While we must not judge others, we must also preach the truth in love. Someone cannot receive God's grace while simultaneously justifying himself in his sin. It is impossible biblically. But if we do not tell the truth, and the person dies in his sin and goes to hell, then his blood is also on our hands.

I'm confused as to why I keep getting thumbs-down votes on this one.

Answer 2

It's not a stretch to imagine this at all. Read the following:

In 1989, the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued its "Report on the Secretary's Task Force on Youth Suicide," which found that "A majority of suicide attempts by homosexuals occur during their youth, and gay youth are 2 to 3 times more likely to attempt suicide than other young people. They may comprise up to 30 percent of (the estimated 5,000) completed youth suicides annually.

Answer 3

It's always sad when someone is so lonely that they kill themselves. As Christians we have a complicated lifestyle. We are supposed to love everyone no matter what, but we are also supposed to follow the rules too. The problem is most Christians aren't paying very much attention to the Bible! In the Bible the rules to live by are simply put by the 10 commandments. When Jesus came he made it much harder to follow to prove that we needed a savior. We are all born sinners and need Jesus as our savior...sin includes lying, looking at someone with lust,murder,jealousy, homosexuality, and more. That just means that they are all sins. No one is worse than the other! Homosexuality is no different than lying in God's eyes. And it's what God sees that matters! It's not a good thing to do/be. But it's no different than anyone else in this world, and no better or worse either!

Answer 4

shall we sparkling some issues up right here: before everything, in case you're gay, and you stroll right into a Church, sit down in a pew and revel in a Church service, who the hell knows of no remember in case you're a gay or no longer besides???????? no person. 2nd, the only way a Church Pastor will comprehend if the guy is a gay who refuses to desert their sin, is that if the guy is going to the Pastor and says i'm a gay and that i refuse to provide up doing it; i am going with to connect the Church. until eventually now becoming a member of the Church as an entire member the Pastor might in all likelihood require the guy to examine the religion, attend some training possibly. at the instant, you will come across a church that welcomes gays; hell, theres even one that has a church chief who's a gay lady. Gods no longer there, yet you need to be in case you go with. only by way of fact there's a development with a huge bell interior the steeple does not make it a house of God. you could circulate to a church the place all they do is snort uncontrollably. There are all forms of loopy church homes with all forms of loopy suggestions and practices. If a guy or woman is going right into a real living house of God and only sits via the service no person is going to concern the guy; whilst grow to be the final time somebody stopped you going right into a church and asked you in case you have been gay? in all likelihood not at all. The turn facet of this coin is that if 2 men dressed up like drag freaks circulate right into a Church and sit down interior the pew kissing and fondling one yet another, if I have been the Pastor i might throw them out on their disgusting asses. My reason? by way of fact even heterosexual couples does not be tolerated in the event that they teach disrespect in somebody else's living house. and can I remind you that the Church, no remember if it relatively is a real Church, is GODS living house. teach admire for the owner of the living house, or stay the hell out. Its only consumer-friendly sense.

Answer 5

I can't reconcile what I know about Christ with what most "Christians" claim is "Christianity." They are full of hypocrisy and hate and I'm sure they help push some people over the edge over homosexuality, abortions, unwed motherhood, women getting too "uppity"--Christians have persecuted all kinds of people over the years, which is in direct conflict with the gospel of love and caring that Christ preached. So I no longer go to a Christian church and I won't unless I find one that truly follows Christ's example rather than a bunch of church historical garbage with no basis in the spirit of Christ's message. I say that hypothetical kid should seek out a church family who will love him as they love themselves--and if they don't love themselves, then they need to love God some more until they do! I'm not going to go to a church anymore that has so much in its doctrine that I don't believe--hating gays is not Christian, and I won't attend a church that persecutes people for any reason whatsoever.

Answer 6

Firstly, if someone commits suicide...it would not simply be because of one conversation. This person would have some other issues that went much deeper. Secondly, if it were me...yes I would feel guilt, if by chance this DID happen. I would feel that as a Christian, I may have my opinions but it's up to God to judge...not me. I would also feel that as a Christian, I should have been more approachable to the young man, so that he might have been able to come to me and talk about his problem. If he HAD come to me, I would have told him that God loves ALL of His children, gay or straight...and that humans might tell him 'gay is wrong', but if he knew in his heart that he was gay because that's they way God made him, he shouldn't worry about those who would judge. It's not their business. That's between him and God.

Answer 7

Although I am Agnostic, I still remain respectful towards others while I attend a service that my mom occasionally drags me to. However, if the congregation were discussing the "wrongs" of homosexuality and condemning all who are to "Hell," I would stand up and leave. That would be something I will NOT partake in. Luckily, I haven't found myself in that type of situation as of yet.
I would not have the man's death on my conscience.

Answer 8

I new of a homosexual that attempted suicide. He jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge (might have been the Oakland Bay Bridge), and is one of just a handful who survived. Former classmates of his acted as if nothing had happened. The kid was only 15 at the time of the attempt. Perhaps it was the age that explains why former classmates acted like they did. He had to move to his grandmothers because of the way he was being treated.

Kind of hypocritical. Most of his male classmates had gotten head from him.

Answer 9

Assuming that most religions practice love and acceptance, judging others would be wrong. The Bible condemns homosexuality, but it is the act that is wrong. Homosexuals are still children of God and are still loved. We are all sinners! lying, stealing, cheating, rudeness, it is all sinful. To treat a homosexual with ill manners is also a sin. In a perfect world we would not be having this conversation.

Answer 10

no need to use imagination buddy, only reason.
If this human being did go to a church, the least things I can think of are either. he was wanting to change his behavior by getting close to gospel teachings, repenting, and changing his life, or he was there all himself in the thought someone would just tell him this is not a good thing to do. I mean, for the second condition, if he knew his behavior was unacceptable before christianism, what was he doing in the church? otherwise, he could be there to hear what he wanted to hear, and do what he wanted to do...
and whatever, whatever, whatever...
one could take it differently...but you know, we´re all different, but we´re all children of God, believe it or not.
so this thing we can all be sure...each one will be accountable for his own sins, and to my point, we can get some more to account for in the case of those we could have influenced for good. that could be the case in your story. it could be not.
take the end it best fits here.

Answer 11

The guy who hung himself is an idiot. Why should someone else feel responsible that the "gay" guy can't deal with his own problems? Stating your opinion about an issue is nothing to feel bad about. Even if someone takes an extreme action about that opinion. Anyone who commits suicide is a punk as far as I'm concerned. I don't care what drove them to that point.