should abortion be legal for the simple fact....?

Question

above all moral reason i believe that abortion should remain legal because if it was illegal too many women would resort to risky ways of illegal abortion. (coat hangers, unlicend doctors and many other harmful actions)
i suggest everyone wachtes the movie "the cider house rules"
agree ? disagree? why?

i am not debating where it is right or wrong i am saying mor lifes would be lost if it was illegal

Answer 1

It is legal, will remain legal, and it is right. It will never be made illegal in the US because there are most intelligent pro-choicers than ignorant, uneducated, pro-life fools.

For the pro-life idiots:

Pregnancy should be a choice. How can somebody force a woman to carry an unwanted child? That is abuse. NOBODY can and/or should be forced to physically do something they don't approve of. Carrying a child for 9 months requires alot of PHYSICAL and EMOTIONAL energy and strength. Being pregnant is not as easy or as pleasant as some may think. Being pregnant means being EMOTIONALLY and FINANCIALLY ready to have a child. Why would somebody even think about having a child when they are on the verge of going bankrupt, living on the streets, and not being able to support themselves? How can you expect them to support a living, breathing child emotionally and physically? Why would you introduce a child to such a miserable life? They are better off dead. Poverty sticken people have the right to have sexual pleasure and sometimes, even if protection is used, mistakes happen; That does NOT mean that they should be bringing a child into this world.
Abortion is also an option for the more financially secure people. Accidents ALWAYS happen; Condoms can break, Birth control is not 100% effective, and sometimes people just forget to use protection or don't have protection at the time. That does NOT mean that they should have an unwanted child. Something else which has happened many times is RAPE. Many girls have been raped in the past and were forced to carry a child. That is the stupidest thing ever! How does that make any sense? Why should somebody be forced to carry a child which is the product of RAPE? Why would somebody even want to mother a criminal's child which is only alive because of a TRAUMATIZING experience? That's insane! Abortion is not wrong. Anybody who says "Abortion is murder" is an ignorant fool who should use their brain and THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BIBLE. Abortion is not murder. [ MURDER- Noun. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. ] THIS IS COMMON SENSE: How can abortion be considered "murder" when the fetus was never even born? If the "baby" is not breathing and living on its own, without the the help of the mother's body, It can not be "murdered". Somebody can not be murdered untill they are born! It just does not make sense to call it "murder".
Most pregnancies are terminated before the fetus is even visible. How can it be considered murder when the fetus is almost invisible? The fetus can not feel a thing therefore nobody can say it is "wrong". Even if the fetus is already visible, "living", and breathing, it is not a REAL life. Think about it this way: If you took a 4 month old fetus out of the body of a woman, it would NOT be able to survive on its own. It is only a REAL life when the baby is viable; when it can survive on its own without the help of the mother's body...Otherwise, it is just a potential at life and NOTHING ELSE.
Even I admit that abortion during the third trimester is WRONG. For example: If you took a 7 1/2 or 8 month old baby out of a mother's body, as opposed to a four month old fetus (as I mentioned above), it is more than just a potential at life, it IS life. That 7-8 month old fetus has the chance of surviving outside of the mother's body at that early of an "age" (with medical assistance, of course) while the four month old fetus has NO chance at survival no matter how much medical assistance is provided.
Anyway, This is not about the fetus, about what it can "feel", or about what's right or wrong, It's about the Mother. A woman's body is a woman's body and NOBODY can force her to do something she doesn't want to do with her body. When a woman is pregnant, it is still HER body and ONLY her body and she can do whatever she wants with it. A woman should not be forced to go through 9 months of Physical and emotional discomfort for something that will be born into a ****** up, unwanted child. Forced pregnancies will only give the child a bad life. The child won't have sufficent love, emotional, physical, and [in some cases] financial support. This child will most likely not have a quality life and does not deserve to go through so many difficulties. The mother also does not deserve to have to deal with an unwanted child; She should not have to waste time, money, and energy to raise an unwanted child which was brought into this world by force. It is NOT fair.
Also, It is NOT about the fetus! It's about the mother! Who cares about the fetus? Since when is a tiny piece cells and tissue that can NOT feel anything more important than a grown woman? NEVER! Women are more important!

Something important:Men do NOT have the right to stop a woman from getting an abortion. Abortion is ONLY the woman's business because it is HER body and HER choice and any man's opinion does NOT count; he does not have the right to stop the woman from getting an abortion and/or judge and critisize a woman who has had an abortion, has considered getting an abortion, or one who will get one in the future. How dare a man even say that abortion is wrong when he is a MAN? He will NEVER IN HIS LIFE get pregnant. Men don't have the slightest clue about what it is like to be a woman. How can a man say abortion is wrong when he doesn't nor will he ever understand the phyiscal and emotional difficulty of pregnancy? IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. If you're a man, I suggest you SHUT THE **** UP and GET A CLUE; The day your penis turns into a vagina and your body changes to accomodate a child inside your stomach, you will have the right to talk about abortion...Too bad that will never happen so shut the **** up. You never will have to carry a child and i'm 100% sure no man would ever want to, so why do you all assume that a WOMAN would want to?

Another big issue: Abortion is none of anybody's business aside from the mother. If all you brainwashed, brainless, ignorant, stupid, highschool drop-out, trailer trash, bible freak, pro-life whores are so anti abortion then don't get an abortion! It's THAT easy. Just worry about yourself and leave everybody else alone! Stay out of everybody's business. If we want to "kill" fetuses, then we can. It's our business, so go get a life and stay out of our lives.

Also, Many people say: "Why would you kill a child when you can just give it up for adoption? There are so many people who want children but can't have any."
That is the stupidest thing ever! Why should somebody have to suffer for 9 months? Why would they want to carry a child for no reason? Going through so much emotional and physical discomfort for 9 months is pointless if you will just go back to your life as if nothing happened and you will have no affiliation with the child afterwards...You will be thinking: "What did I just waste the last 9 months of my life doing? I could have accomplished so much in those 9 months. I can't believe I went through so much pain just to bring a child into this world whom I will never see again. etc etc"
It is a waste of time! You are only making YOUR life worse.

Even if you do go through 9 months of pregnancy to carry an unwanted child, You WON'T want to give it up for adoption after you see it. It's not that easy. Do you really think that you can give a child away after you've gone through so much to give it life and after you've had it come out of you, held it, heard it cry, etc? NO! Even if it was an unwanted child, It's not THAT easy! After it is born, You will want it.

BUT...Let's say that you DO give it up for adoption, Don't be so sure that somebody will adopt it. Please remember that there are SO many foster homes with children who have been living there for years and have been waiting for a family to adopt them. There are plenty of children in this world who don't have families, so whoever says "There are so many parents who can't have children but want children and there aren't enough in this world" are idiots! Look around you, this world is so overpopulated! Go to your local foster home and you'll see so many sad children without families. Why don't you adopt them all since you're so "Pro-life"?
The world does not need anymore unwanted children. There is not an 100% chance that you child will be adopted. If there were an 100% chance, then there wouldn't be SO many children out there without families.


Why abortion is LEGAL, should REMAIN LEGAL, and why abortion is RIGHT:

1. Laws against abortion kill women. To prohibit abortions does not stop them. When women feel it is absolutely necessary, they will choose to have abortions, even in secret, without medical care, in dangerous circumstances. In the two decades before abortion was legal in the U.S., it's been estimated that nearly a million women per year sought out illegal abortions. Thousands died. Tens of thousands were mutilated. All were forced to behave as if they were criminals.

2. Legal abortions protect women's health. Legal abortion not only protects women's lives, it also protects their health. For tens of thousands of women with heart disease, kidney disease, severe hypertension, sickle-cell anemia and severe diabetes, and other illnesses that can be life-threatening, the availability of legal abortion has helped avert serious medical complications that could have resulted from childbirth. Before legal abortion, such women's choices were limited to dangerous illegal abortion or dangerous childbirth.

3. A woman is more than a fetus. Some people argue these days that a fetus is a "person" that is "indistinguishable from the rest of us" and that it deserves rights equal to women's. On this question there is a tremendous spectrum of religious, philosophical, scientific, and medical opinion. It's been argued for centuries. Fortunately, our society has recognized that each woman must be able to make this decision, based on her own conscience. To impose a law defining a fetus as a "person," granting it rights equal to or superior to a woman's — a thinking, feeling, conscious human being — is arrogant and absurd. It only serves to diminish women.

4. Being a mother is just one option for women. Many hard battles have been fought to win political and economic equality for women. These gains will not be worth much if reproductive choice is denied. To be able to choose a safe, legal abortion makes many other options possible. Otherwise an accident or a rape can end a woman's economic and personal freedom.

5. Outlawing abortion is discriminatory. Anti-abortion laws discriminate against low-income women, who are driven to dangerous self-induced or back-alley abortions. That is all they can afford. But the rich can travel wherever necessary to obtain a safe abortion.

6. Compulsory pregnancy laws are incompatible with a free society. If there is any matter that is personal and private, then pregnancy is it. There can be no more extreme invasion of privacy than requiring a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. If government is permitted to compel a woman to bear a child, where will government stop? The concept is morally repugnant. It violates traditional American ideas of individual rights and freedoms.

7. Outlaw abortion, and more children will bear children. Forty percent of 14-year-old girls will become pregnant before they turn 20. This could happen to your daughter or someone else close to you. Here are the critical questions: Should the penalty for lack of knowledge or even for a moment's carelessness be enforced pregnancy and childrearing? Or dangerous illegal abortion? Should we consign a teenager to a life sentence of joblessness, hopelessness, and dependency?

8. "Every child a wanted child." If women are forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, the result is unwanted children. Everyone knows they are among society's most tragic cases, often uncared-for, unloved, brutalized, and abandoned. When they grow up, these children are often seriously disadvantaged, and sometimes inclined toward brutal behavior to others. This is not good for children, for families, or for the country. Children need love and families who want and will care for them.

9. Choice is good for families. Even when precautions are taken, accidents can and do happen. For some families, this is not a problem. But for others, such an event can be catastrophic. An unintended pregnancy can increase tensions, disrupt stability, and push people below the line of economic survival. Family planning is the answer. All options must be open.

At the most basic level, the abortion issue is not really about abortion. It is about the value of women in society. Should women make their own decisions about family, career, and how to live their lives? Or should government do that for them? Do women have the option of deciding when or whether to have children? Or is that a government decision? The anti-abortion leaders really have a larger purpose. They oppose most ideas and programs that can help women achieve equality and freedom. They also oppose programs that protect the health and well-being of women and their children.

Anti-abortion leaders claim to act "in defense of life." If so, why have they worked to destroy programs that serve life, including prenatal care and nutrition programs for dependent pregnant women? Is this respect for life?

Anti-abortion leaders also say they are trying to save children, but they have fought against health and nutrition programs for children once they are born. The anti-abortion groups seem to believe life begins at conception, but it ends at birth. Is this respect for life?

Then there are programs that diminish the number of unwanted pregnancies before they occur: family planning counseling, sex education, and contraception for those who wish it. Anti-abortion leaders oppose those, too. And clinics providing such services have been bombed. Is this respect for life?

Such stances reveal the ultimate cynicism of the compulsory pregnancy movement. "Life" is not what they're fighting for. What they want is a return to the days when a woman had few choices in controlling her future. They think that the abortion option gives too much freedom. That even contraception is too liberating. That women cannot be trusted to make their own decisions.

Americans today don't accept that. Women can now select their own paths in society, including when and whether to have children. Family planning, contraception, and, if need be, legal abortion are critical to sustaining women's freedom. There is no going back.

Answer 2

It should be legal because you cannot legislate morality

It should remain legal for the women of tomorrow, because the Supreme Court made it legal in 1973 and it would be taking a huge step backwards to ban it more than 30 years later

I am not really sure how many women actually had coat-hanger abortions or had them in foreign country's back before then, but i am sure the number would increase. I have not heard of a "coat hanger" abortion death in my entire life, except as past history

Some women and girls may go to the extreme of taking their own (and fetus's) life if they were forced to carry a pregnancy to term

Finally, if we put enough resourses and research into developing and legalizing safe, early first-trimester abortion solutions, it will be a lot less painful for everyone, even anti-abortion activists who have the signs of dismember 2nd-trimester embryo's

Answer 3

While it is a consequence to consider as part of the larger debate, I wouldn't go so far as to call it a major reason for legalizing abortion. Just because people will resort to risky behavior as a result of something being illegal (see narcotics), it doesn't mean we should legalize it. There are much better arguments, both pragmatic and philosophical, that can be used in defense of the legalization of abortion.

Answer 4

I can see both sides of the issue. Due to my religios upbringing, I would would be pro life. However, the minute I say that, some sick bastard dad will rape his daughter, and she'll have to have the kid.

I believe that abortion should not be outlawed, everyone should have their own choice, and religous groups should NOT feel that they can press their moral ethics on others.

That way, the people who want abortions can have them, and those that don't, don't. I do however believe that a girl should have parental concent when getting an abortion if they are younger than 18. They are still a minor, and the procedure can have dangerous side effects (like suicide)

Answer 5

Stop the slaughter of the Holy Innocents
Each soul placed on earth by the Eternal Father has been given a mission
The Spirit of Life is breathed into the creation of the Eternal Father at the precise moment of infiltration of conception. Life begins at the exact moment of the infiltration of conception, therefore you are destroying a creation of the Eternal Father
You offend the Father when you butcher the bodies and destroy the souls of innocent children! (abortions) The bodies are the shells for the spirit. The body is the temple for the spirit. You send the spirit back to the Father when it has not finished its commitment! How dare you set yourselves as God!
It truly rains teardrops from Heaven.

There are numerous people who have survived abortion and lived to tell their story. There are many courageous health care workers who had the love, courage and moral strength to 'whisk away' living babies after an abortion attempt and who helped to save their lives. The strange thing about these living folk is that legally and technically they do not exist, they were never born, they are non-persons. They cannot get a birth certificate and they cannot get a passport, they probably can't work because they cannot get a social security number. Yet to recognise them as being the same as any citizen of the land with the same rights, they need to be acknowledged as a living human being! Difficult, when technically they weren't born!

May you feel the inner chill of truth as you read these things
brothers and sisters
In Jesus name we pray

Answer 6

I agree or the movie If These Walls Could Talk. Abortion is a hot topic because it is legal and so everyone thinks it is going on because of that. If they dig into history, they will find that abortions took place many many years prior. Even in John Jake's trilogy North and South the character of Ashton goes to a woman in the swamps and has an unplanned pregnancy taken care of. Abortion has been around since the dawn of humanity and it in some form will always remain thus. At least, make it safe.

Answer 7

There is a dark side to legal abortions aside from the fact it kills babies. It even invalidates the rights of wanted children by allowing them to be killed and not being able to charge the one who did it with murder. I also believe if you die while trying to kill someone else, well that's what you get. Birth control methods are available to sexually active persons who do not want to become pregnant. Adoption is a valid choice. But we can't inconvenience modern women who are careless, can we? Better to let them safely kill their babies rather than lose out on a career opportunity or new relationship.

I would not make all abortions illegal. Sometimes they are necessary, but not at the rate they are being done these days.

Answer 8

i agree, the moral dilemma of abortion lies in (believe it or not) religion, like most of the worlds problems. we have the technology so why not. the system we have now is great with the trimesters and all.... when a girl has an abortion its barely a fetus and has no conscience, the system will not allow an abortion beyond a certain stage. plus as a society we cant have young unprepaired teenaers having babies, on that same note however better safe sex programs must be implemented.

Answer 9

As you mention, abortion is used even when it is against the law. And that is because it is a God given right. God himself uses abortion in the form of miscarriage. And God knows that some fetuses do not need to be born for very good reason. That is why that abortion is not mentioned in the Bible.
Those who say that abortion is murder are saying that God is a murderer. And to those who follow the pro life movement, God is a murderer and they are followers of the anti christ.
A loving God Does Not kill in abortion. A loving God saves the soul of the fetus and uses it later. A hateful god does kill in abortion, he kills the doctor, bombs the clinic and harasses the women. So in abortion there are two possible types of God. There is the loving God and there is the hateful god. You may follow whatever god you choose.

Answer 10

People who believe that abortion should be illegal are not thinking logically. You are correct that, if abortion were illegal, women would continue to do it. Wealthy women would leave the country and go to Canada or Europe. Poorer women would resort to illegal abortion, or try doing it themselves, risking serious injury or death.

The end result would be that there would be no fewer abortions than before. But there would be more dead and seriously injured women.

Making abortion illegal wouldn't save babies. It would kill women. So you can only assume that people who want to make it illegal don't really care about saving babies at all. They just hate women.

It's the only logical conclusion you can draw.

Answer 11

This is like saying that we should make it safer for child molesters to molest, for rapists to rape, and for hitmen to kill. We shouldn't worry about making it "safe" for a woman to murder her own child.

Poland made abortion illegal in the 1990's, and they haven't had the problem you describe:

http://www.thevanguard.org/thevanguard/other_writers/willke/000401.shtml

More lives would NOT be lost if abortion was made illegal. More lives would be SAVED. Or do the million plus babies killed every year by abortion not "count?"

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