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Islam: An intolerant, inconsistent fallacy

This is not from a christian or jewish perspective; I thought I would get that out of the way to begin with.

Is Islam a religion where you have to check "free-thinking" at the door and embrace a tyranical, murderous, intolerant worldview?

IMO: YES!

1. How can the Koran be the infallable word of God when it contains nonsense like the earth is flat and the sun moves around the earth.

2. How can it be said that Mohammed was a loving and compassionate man yet he killed, robbed and sadisticly tortured people. ie: a man was murdered for making fun of Mohammed in poetry.
Also, Mohammed tortured and punished some by chopping of their arms and legs, burning out their eyeballs and killing them slowly in the harsh elements of the desert.

3. Why do Muslim claim that Mohammed was a liberator of women when it is taught that women are:
a) inferior to men
b) must obey their husbands - or be dealt with harshly
c) Mohammed said that hell was filled with women due to disobeying their husbands
d) Husbands can beat them because Allah promotes this in the koran.
e) Have no essential rights like child-custody and the right to divorce.
f) Court testomony is worth only half of the testomony of a man.
g) She has no autonomy, first her father controls her then her husband.
h) Allah wants them to stay at home and not to came out.
i) They are forbidden to join ceremonies such as funerals.
j) The Koran speaks only towards man as if woman arent full human beings.

4. How can Muslims say that Mohammed was a perfect human-being or even a good man and his example should be followed when it is known that he did a 9-year old girl when he was 53?
Don't many muslims follow this example because the best muslims should follow the Sunna?


5.How can it be said that Islam is a religion of peace and love when the koran teaches that non-believers are forbidden to be friends of muslims and in fact the koran promotes killing them and otherwise abusing them?

2006-08-14 11:00:16 · 26 answers · asked by Jonathan S 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

26 answers

Well there are 2 Islams... the peaceful Libral Islam that ignores most of violence in the Quran...

We should not unfairly steriotype them... but we should show them the love taught in the Bible...

"Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you and persicute you."-Matthew 5:44, the Bible

And if we love our enemies how much more should we love our niegbors and friends...

But then there are the Radical Fundemental Extremist that follow the violence taught in the Quran...

The majority of Muslims are Radical... the peaceful ones are the minority....

True Islam is not of peace.... Islam means, "to submit"

"Fight and slay the pagans( Christians, Jews, and non-Muslims) wherever you find them, and sieze them, beleagur them, and lie in wait for them in every strategem of war."- Surah 9:5 the Quran....

Iran's President, Mamoud Ahmadinejad said, "Israel should be wiped off of the map of the world"

But here is another form of intolerance....

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucufixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the hereafter."- Surah 5:33, the Quran...

" O you who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them( for friendship ) is of them."- Surah 5:51, the Quran

The Libral Muslims do not follow this but the rest of Islam does...

Cutting off someones feet and hands for not accepting your belief is unthinkable- but the Quran commands it.

In the Christian religion it is all about free will and choice... to choose Jesus or not...

But in Radical Islam, it is by force, death or acceptance of Islam...

The God of Christians is love and we are His children...

but Allah, Islam's God is not love nor a father, He Himself wrote the Quran...

I can never accept Islam or Libral Islam because I know what is in the Quran...

I chose Jesus and I became a Christian that I may be saved from the sin and crimes that I have commited against God... If I did not choose God I would have chosen forever without God=Hell

I follow the Bible... it tells me to love my niegbors and love my eneimes... to fight evil with good, and to be Moral and love God and to love others...

I cannot ignore the crussades or other otrocities made by the church... but I don't accociate with false Christians... they did not follow the Bible, they followed a religious hypocrite that only loved money and power.... they hid under the name of Christianity...

but still all of this pales in comparison to radical Islam's deeds, and the death toll resulting from them....

So many Muslims are decieved by Radicals, they think that by killing unbelievers that they and their family and friends may be promised salvation... and upon reaching heaven they may enjoy sexual immorality and sin forever...

Does this not sound like a man made teaching and not of a Holy Moral God?

You cannot simply pave your way to heaven by doing good or evil... your sins are still there with you... only Jesus can wash them away...

God provided His mercy to all that might accept Him and His Son and He promised them salvation...

all that you have to do is choose to accept Him or reject Him...

Religion is not the Answer... Jesus is...

will you choose Him and see what life is all about?

God bless you and your family

-an understanding and simple Christian

2006-08-14 11:39:38 · answer #1 · answered by Mr. Agappae 5 · 1 2

You have got your information wrong!uhhhhhhhh it does not say that EArth is flat or that sun revolves around the earth?!....whered you get that?!.....probably some islamic site thats run by non muslims.

How can Muslims say that Mohammed was a perfect human-being or even a good man and his example should be followed when it is known that he did a 9-year old girl when he was 53?

I have a quesitom: why do ppl state the verse out of context??
uhhh 9 yr olds at that time were as mature as 24 yrs old now...

You are trying to preach hate!

2006-08-17 18:22:21 · answer #2 · answered by mindcrazy11 2 · 0 0

2. How can it be said that Mohammed was a loving and compassionate man yet he killed, robbed and sadisticly tortured people. ie: a man was murdered for making fun of Mohammed
he was loving yes he was love his god and realigon and he so poor man and he can be the richet man in the world in 1 night
and he and his friend was suffer from nonmuslim suffer in 13 years. and he not raises like the past man his friened r arabs black and after islam massege go too far all blood r muslim
How can Muslims say that Mohammed was a perfect human-being or even a good man and his example should be followed when it is known that he did a 9-year old girl when he was 53?
when he married to this woman she was growing up woman grown up

2006-08-14 11:15:18 · answer #3 · answered by mike j 1 · 1 1

Wow, thats a lot of information--can you site a source please? I'm interested in looking some of it up. I read the Koran many years ago, but I understand a LOT is lost in translation. I'm not Muslim or really follow any other organized religion for that matter, but I do NOT believe that Islam was founded upon the idea of hatred, abuse, or maltreatment of their fellow human being. Anything when placed under the ever changing "moral microscope" can appear to be malicious. Religion has been bastardized by power thirsty, greedy individuals and not the sole reflection of the goodness it could possibly bring.
I know you are "asking" questions above, and that is the first and foremost step in eliminating religious intolerance, hatred, and ignorance in the world, but please, make sure it doesn't sound like propaganda.

2006-08-14 11:09:27 · answer #4 · answered by samina650 2 · 1 1

The first thing i read about your facts you gave made me stop reading the rest of your fact that is when you said "1. How can the Koran be the infallable word of God when it contains nonsense like the earth is flat and the sun moves around the earth."

My friend if you would have read the Holy Quran you would have not brought up that point because that allone shows how much you know about Islam, thats why i don't even bother to read all your other made lie about Islam.

Get the facts straight first before you post

http://askmuslims.

2006-08-15 13:43:04 · answer #5 · answered by askmuslims1 4 · 1 1

HI
PEACE BE UP ON YOU ,BY THE WAY THIS IS ISLAM GREETING. AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMTHING, YOU ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT BIG TITLES WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS, WHILE DETAILS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ANY RESEARCH OR TO ANY ONE REALY SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH.
ITS VERY OBVIOUS THAT YOU DID NOT READ THE KORAN
BECAUSE IF YOU READ IT YOU WILL FINDE ALOT OF SEINTIFIC TRUTH WHICH IS APPROVED 1000 YEAR LATER
LIKE THE EARTH IS ROUND SHAPE NOT FLAT(1).
AND REGARDING NUMBER(2) I DONT KNOW WHAT IS YOUR RESOURCE OF INFORMATION BECAUSE I DIDNT HEAR ABOUT THAT.
NUMBER(3) HELL IS FILLED WITH WOMEN BECAUSE OF TALKING ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE OTHER PEOPLE OR THEY HAD ELLIGAL SEX WITH SOMONE ELSE (NOT HERE HUSBAND). SO READ THE QURAN 1ST IF YOU ARE REALY LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
AND REMEMBER THAT IF WE HAVE DISAGREEMENT IN OPENIONS IT DOESNT MEAN THAT WE ARE ENIMYES OR WE SHOULD HAIT EACH OTHER FOR THAT .
AND SORY FOR THE SPELLING MISTAKES.

WITH REGARDS AND RESPICT

2006-08-14 11:56:29 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You have no proof for your statements,except for3-b ,and 3-d because marriage is an organization of man ,wife and children,if any organization has two bosses,it will fail,there must be one boss.God allow beating after making advice and be away of woman in bed,then if this does not work comes beating.Women are not forbidden to join ceremonies,but they have their special ones.Koran promote killing non-believers if they begin fighting,i.e.for defending Muslims .

2006-08-14 11:21:11 · answer #7 · answered by Ahmad 4 · 0 1

Islam, same like any other religion, has its own goods and bads. May be this is the time for Muslims to reform Islam and purify it from bad teachings, same like what Christians did 500 years ago.

2006-08-17 03:47:31 · answer #8 · answered by Bionimetiket 2 · 0 0

this is not a question this is just ur way of expressing ur views.... but if this is true then he should not be followed, what i do know is that it suppose to be ok to have several wives. that is against gods laws. it was ok in the days of b.c, so the earth can reproduce but it is not of god now. a husband has no right to treat his woman as property this is another way of modrn slavey, i read that he also spent time in prison for the crimes he commited, that he also started the religion in prison where there is nothing but sin. i would never follwow a man who claims to be what he is when he could not save himself from prison ect, he also changed the original name of his religion to what it is today.

2006-08-14 11:15:19 · answer #9 · answered by 1plum 4 · 0 1

you sound like a law student. most of what you have said is twisted possibly due to the anti Islamic era we are living in caused by propaganda.
the rest of what you have said are utter lies.
i feel genuinely sorry for your ignorance and arrogance, if you are intelligent you wouldnt be here you would be investigating your questions by posting them on an Islamic site where learned people of Islam would be happy to correct your warped version of the final of the monotheistic faiths.

2006-08-14 11:14:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You found that so what should I do?? You are working here for the last 3 days just to insult Islam. So we know your ambition. People like you will always go to such sites, instead of sites which talk about truth, and gather up garbage, eat them & throw up here on Y!A and make mess.

2006-08-14 11:37:23 · answer #11 · answered by SFNDX 5 · 0 1

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