Why is Satan connected with the Serpent in th garden of Eden?

Question

Nowhere in th old testement does it say that the two are the same.

In fact, nowherei n the old testement is satan EVER mentioned.

At the same time, there is NOWHERE in the old testament that says that Lucifer is satan.

There is also no place that says that there is such a place as hell.

So, why do Christians insist on making these false connections?

Answer 1

You are correct that the Eden story does not contain a reference to Satan. The snake is just a snake.

It is only in later writing that Satan gets associated with the snake --this happens during the inter-testamental literature and then is referred to by Paul in the New Testament. So, Paul is actually citing a non-canonical book when he refers to the serpent as Satan, not Genesis.

Satan as a proper name is not mentioned in the Old Testament as you say; however, "the satan" is mentioned several times. The satan was a member of the heavenly court and worked for God as the "blocker" or "obstacle" --sometimes in a preventative sense and sometimes as a deliberate challenge,as in the story of Job.

The story of Lucifer as well does not come from the Old Testament but rather from the pseudepigraphical book of Enoch.

So why do Christians have these beliefs?---what happens is a matter of "interpretive layering" --one idea is used to build on another and so on--finally the concept takes on a life of its own. The task of the scholar is to strip away these layers, as you have done, in order to find what the original intention of the writing may have been, and how this original writing may or may not have meaning for us today.

Very good question!!

Answer 2

I found that a College Bible was easier to understand. The words have the same meaning but our in our English language.Not how they used thou,yea,hath shew,etc.These are some easy ones but I can't think of the harder ones right now. When all put together sometimes I'm not quite sure of the meaning.I thought Lucifer was considered the devil or Satan.That he spoke through the snake.There are so many names used to describe Satan as we know today.

Answer 3

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of God plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 4

because christians also go by the new testament which is the only place where jesus was found in the bible

why would people who believe in christ go strictly by the old testament which contains no mention of christ just think about that for a second

michaelowen- sorry i actually meant that the prophecies were the only mention of a savior we had no idea what he would do because even the apostles suspected different actions from christ they expected him to lead them to victory over the romans what i meant is that he isnt yet on earth yet so we couldnt have a christianity religion without the new testament we couldnt go strictly by the old testament

Answer 5

Excellent response by Resurrectionist!

Satan was not one person, but anyone who lures others to temptation. Satan is doing work in this room by filling some with evil thoughts in order to trip up believers and make them suffer.

Believers are promised eternal life with God after death.

Satan promises nothing. He recruits antagonists to promote his cause and then leaves them hanging...just like pyramid schemes, vacation clubs, timeshare clubs and Amway.

You can't win with Satan! He is out for himself! He is even laughing at you atheists when you are suffering!!!

Answer 6

Satan was the serpent. He can take different forms. I don't think that you've read much of the Bible - so I suggest that you spend the next year or so reading and studying so that you can carry on a factual conversation on what is and what isn't.

Answer 7

and because he had fallen from heaven, and had develop into depressing consistently, he sought additionally the misery of all mankind. Wherefore, he mentioned unto Eve, yea, even that old serpent, who's the devil, who's the daddy of all lies, wherefore he mentioned: Partake of the forbidden fruit, and ye shall no longer die, yet ye would be as God, understanding solid and evil. Rev 12:9 9 And the super dragon replaced into forged out, that old serpent, referred to as the devil, and devil, which deceiveth the finished international: he replaced into forged out into the earth, and his angels have been forged out with him. Rev 12:14 14 And to the lady have been given 2 wings of a super eagle, that she would fly into the desert, into her place, the place she is nourished for a time, and situations, and 0.5 a time, from the face of the serpent. Rev 12:15 15 And the serpent forged out of his mouth water as a flood after the lady, that he would reason her to be over excited of the flood. Rev 20:2 2 And he laid carry on the dragon, that old serpent, that's the devil, and devil, and sure him 1000 years, Gen 3:a million a million ¶ NOW the serpent replaced into greater subtil than any beast of the sphere which our lord god had made. And he mentioned unto the lady, Yea, hath God mentioned, Ye shall no longer consume of each and every tree of the backyard? the common sort of the serpent and its mode of progression have been probably a similar earlier: the fall as after it; yet next to the fall its sort and progression have been to be known with hatred and disgust by utilising all mankind, and consequently the animal replaced into cursed principally livestock," and a mark of condemnation replaced into consistently stamped upon it. Serpents are mentioned in Scripture to "consume airborne dirt and dirt," see Genesis 3:14; Isaiah sixty 5:25; Micah 7:17; those animals which for the main section take their nutrition on the floor, do subsequently swallow with it super parts of sand and airborne dirt and dirt. for the duration of the East the serpent replaced into used as an logo of the evil concept, of the spirit of disobedience and contumacy. lots has been written on the question of the "fiery serpents" of Numbers 21:6, 8; with which that's generic to erroneously perceive the "fiery flying serpent" of Isaiah 14:29; and Isaiah 30:6 The notice "fiery" in all probability shows "burning," in allusion to the sensation produced by utilising the chew.

Answer 8

They are He is the only fallen angel named in the bible.
Satan, lucifer, the old Dragon, The serpent.
He is also called
Death, son of perdition, Lier, Father of lies, Father of Murder.
all the same being. He has more names than Christ.

Answer 9

Satan in the bible isn't even a single entity. It simply means antagonist. Anyone who was the antagonist at the time was referred to as satan.

Answer 10

Dylpickle- No mention of Christ in the old testament?

you have OBVIOUSLY not read any of the Old Testament, for it is filled with prophecies that came true in the coming of Christ. Filled.