Can we discuss the Godhead in a respectable manner even if we dont agree, for those who say Jesus is God?

Question

I thought to post this from another question I asked, and the responses I recieved. Also from other questions and answers I have read....
When you say Jesus is God, what does that mean to you?
I read many that say t here is one God and say that Jesus is God.
I read many that say Jesus is not God because there is one God.
I read many that say, Jesus is God because the trinity is a mystery.
I would like to respectfully share my views.....
There is ONE GOD in my view.....and God is spirit.
omnipotent,(all powerful) omnicient,(all knowing) omnipresent(all present.). This very spirit manifested himself in flesh, so that he could come down and we could see him. I do not in anyway worship the flesh of Jesus, I worship spirit, which is God.
IN Jesus is the fullness of the God head bodily. ALL OF GOD
DWELT IN JESUS, Father son holyghost...Now we are members of that body and we are that flesh God chose to dwell in, and while one of us is not the fullness we together make up the body.

It is more important to understand that God has a name and has given us a name whereby we must be saved and that name is Jesus.
1. Jesus is the name of the Father. Jesus said, "I am come in my Father's name" (John 5:43). Jesus received His name by inheritance (Hebrews 1:4).

2. Jesus is the name of the Son. "And she shall bringf orth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS.- for he shall save his people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21).

3. Jesus is the name of the Holy Ghost. "But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name.. " (John 14:26
This is my views...
I hope its possible to be mature and not poke at others views but simply state clearly your own views. And I hope all respect each other.

I want all who come to know I will in everyway respect your views and will not debate them....I do not desire to debate just simply share my views and learn of views of others and maybe someone will be blessed by reading these views. Thank you all for sharing.

I cannot really vo te on this because I dont want to choose a persons view over anothers , thank you all for sharing and blessings in Jesus name.
Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Answer 1

I believe that God the Father, Jesus Christ his only Begotten Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct beings...

I believe that God the Father is THE GOD, and has a Physical body (and we were sent here to earth to get the gift of a Physical body too)...

I believe that Jesus Christ is our Heavenly Father's eldest Spirit child and that Jesus was chosen to receive all of God's powers to create the Physical Universe (including man) after God had created them in spirit. I believe also that Jesus is A God, more specifically, the God of the OT. After he created the world he spoke to each of the Prophets down the line in the name of our Heavenly Father...

I believe that the Holy Spirit has no body so that he can enter all of us and talk directly to our Spirit... and that he testifies of God and Jesus and truth... and that he can bring to our rememberance anything that we have experienced either here on earth or in Heaven before we came here...

I believe that God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit have seperate but identically aligned wills... and that they all do the will of the Father...

You can consider this... or not... but this is what I believe and I have felt the Holy Spirit testify to me of its truth.

Answer 2

You don't HAVE to take any human's word for it or personal viewpoint. Get your Bible out and look up the following verses: (1) Isaiah 9:6. Jesus is prophetically called Mighty God, but never Almighty God. That title is applied exclusively to the Father. (2) John 1:1,2,14. The King James version renders verse 1 as "the Word was God," other translations say "was like God" or "was a god." Ancient Greek (called Koine) did not have the indefinate article "a," but other languages do. So the correct English translation is "was a god." Regardless, verses 1 & 2 also say that "the Word was WITH God." You can't be WITH someone and BE them at the same time, so this passage is clearly talking about 2 different entities. Then, verse 14 says that the Word was an only-begotten son. "Begotten" refers to conception, creation, or beginning. The Father is eternal in both directions and had no beginning. Revelation 4:11 / Daniel 7:9,13. (3) John 1:18. If no human has ever physically seen God, then who was Jesus? (4) Jesus said that he and his Father are one in the same way that he and his apostles are one. Does that mean that Jesus and his apostles (minus Judas Iscariot) formed a 12-part entity? Of course not, so neither are Jesus and God two-in-one. (5) John 14:28. Jesus clearly said that the Father is greater than he is. So then how could they be completely equal? (6) John 5:19, 30. Jesus stated that the things he said and did were not of his own will, but rather, what the Father told him. How could that be if he and the Father are the exact same person? Wouldn't the Father's will also be the Son's will? (7) Matthew 3:16, 17 / Matthew 17:5 / John 12: 27, 28. On 3 occasions during Jesus' earthly life, God spoke to him audibly from heaven in the presence of other humans. So who was talking to him? (8) John 11:41, 42 / Matthew 26:39 / Matthew 27:46. If Jesus is God, who was he praying to, and what good could it have done? Was he talking to himself? Was he trying to decieve his disciples? (9) Colossians 1:15. Again, the Almighty Father had no beginning. The Son, on the other hand, was the first thing created by him. So they cannot be the same person. (10) Mark 12:29. There is only ONE true God, not 3 in one, and Jesus openly acknowleged this. (11) Habbakuk 1:12. The Almighty is completely omnipotent and indestructible. I mean, seriously, what would have happened to the universe if God's life had actually ended, even for an instant? So the Jesus who was impaled must be a seperate, lesser person. And after Jesus had died, who brought him back to life?..............Do you see the pattern? Also, an encyclopedia or religious history book will tell you that the idea of a dual god-head or 3-part trinity (Father-Son-Holy Spirit) was not an original teaching of the first-century Christian congregation, but was introduced during the 3rd century A.D, long after the death of the apostles. In fact, the words "god-head, triune" and "Trinity" do not even appear in the Bible.

Answer 3

When I say Jesus I mean:
HE was Jehovah of the old testament
HE was one of the personage with the Almighty Father when he said "let us make man in our image".
HE was the messiah prophesied in the old testament. The lamb which will be sacrificed for our sins.
HE was the babe prophesied to be born of Mary in a stable in Bethlehem. The son of the God made flesh through Mary.
HE was the son of a carpenter who walked the hills of Judea doing good.
HE was the man who asked his Father if it was possible that the bitter cup be passed from him as he prayed in the Garden of Getsemane, yet in the end he still obey his Father.
HE was the man who called to his Father on the cross because he deserted him
HE was the man who was buried in the tomb and on the third day
HE was the GOD who resurrected himself and by his resurrection all mankind was reconciled with God He being the payment for our sins.
He was the Christ who asended to join his Father as an immortal, glorified being.
Jesus Christ, God the Father and the Holy Ghost are three different personages. Jesus doing the will of the Father and the Holy Ghost testifying of the truth of them both. If the Holy Ghost was not a spirit he will not be able to influence our spirits. When his mission is over he will claim his physical body to become immortal also. This is what I believe. When I lay in my bed I feel comfortable with these thoughts. I pray to a Heavenly Father through his son Jesus Christ to show me if it's true. And the Holy Ghost testifies that it is so.

Answer 4

Yes, we can respectfully share views. But if you tell me that Jesus is not God then based on the Hebrew and Greek translations of the Bible and Jesus own words, I will have to disagree with you.
God name in the Hebrew suggests that it is male in gender and their is more than one. God speaks as He is creating and says "Let us make man in our image".... (See Genesis).
The best way that I could describe it is this way.
I am one person but my character is that I am a daughter to one person, a mom to someone, and a wife to someone. I am one person but three seperate people in my relation to others.
Each of the trinity has His own unique characteristics.
God is the Father, Jesus came in human form and delivered whoever believes from the wages of sin. He is the manifestation of God in the Flesh. The Holy Spirits role is the comforter, the one who convicts of sin. Yet, they are all a part of God.

Answer 5

Wonderfully worded!

A part of the statement of faith at my Church is: "WE BELIEVE...There is only One True God–revealed in three persons...Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (commonly known as the Trinity). "

Isaiah 43:10-11
Matthew 28:19
John 1:1
John 4:24
John 14:1-9

Answer 6

People need to understand.. that everything about God and His ways humans just AREN'T going to understand.
David said "I do not concern myself with things I cannot understand" because God is bigger and greater then anything we could ever imagine possible.

Jesus is God in the form of a man. Father, Spirit, and Son.
3 in 1. That's it.

Answer 7

Theologians have a hard time agreeing on the same published edition of the Bible. Consider the following. Water (found all over this planet) is the same substance manifested in three ways, solid, liquid, and gas. Got that? Let it sink in - before - this - next point..................ready? OK? Oxygen is part of water and yet it took some thirty years for scientists to stop fighting about the existence of oxygen.

I think we (God's children) just like fighting too much. Think of how sad our common parent, God, actually is.

Answer 8

I would like to know how you come to that conclusion where did you get your informationthat Jesus is God that is not what the Bible says anuwhere nor is that what Jesus taught when he was on earth.If you were right and Jesus was God why would he have spent so much time in preaching and teaching about his Father?Why would he have told people that they should do the wilkl of his Father instead of just telling them that he was God and that they were to do his willnot his Fathers,In fact from what I have read in the Bible Jesus on a number of occasionssaid that he was doing God's will himself and even just before hewas to die on the stakein his prayer to his Father(God)he said to him let your will take placenot my will but your willwould he reasonably be saying things like that to himselfwould he pray to himself? In Mathew 28:18 Jesus says that all Authority and Power was given to him in heaven and on earth, so the question is:If Authority and power were give to Jesus and he is God then who is above God to give him the power and authority?only God has that to Give and if God has it no one can give it to God, so if it is right that Jesus is God then why would he say that he was given the power and Authority?To me that makes no sense. I'm not being disrespectful to you I just want to understand where you're coming from!

Answer 9

Mark 13:32 “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

Matt. 20:20-23, “The mother of the sons of Zebedee . . . said to him [Jesus], ‘Command that these two sons of mine may sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.’ But Jesus answered, . . . ‘You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.’” (How strange, if, as claimed, Jesus is God! Was Jesus here merely answering according to his “human nature”? If, as Trinitarians say, Jesus was truly “God-man”—both God and man, not one or the other—would it truly be consistent to resort to such an explanation? Does not Matthew 20:23 rather show that the Son is not equal to the Father, that the Father has reserved some prerogatives for himself?)

Matt. 12:31, 32, “Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” (If the Holy Spirit were a person and were God, this text would flatly contradict the Trinity doctrine, because it would mean that in some way the Holy Spirit was greater than the Son. Instead, what Jesus said shows that the Father, to whom the “Spirit” belonged, is greater than Jesus, the Son of man.)

John 14:28, “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3 “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)

1 Cor. 15:27, 28 “‘God has put all things in subjection under his [Jesus’] feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection under him,’ it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one.”

Answer 10

Dear Whispers, let me first compliment you on your vast knowledge of scripture and your evident thirst for knowledge of Who God really is. Secondly, let me state that I am not a Bible scholar, however, I have studied and lived the Word of the Living God for some twenty years, and therefore feel confident to respond to your invite. Yahweh, Shiloh, El Shaddai, Elohim, Yeshua, etc, are all different names, yet all are given to one God. They each have different meanings pertaining to different aspects of God's personality, i.e; His holiness, His love, His closeness, His power. God is an entity. He is a tri-une God. The Godhead is indeed a spirit being. Jesus is the second of the Trinity, the Son. The Holy Spirit is the third. In scripture we read early on in the Old Testament, Genesis, I believe, where The Father was speaking to someone in Heaven and He related to "we", meaning He was relating to Jesus, who was, and is, seated at the right hand of the Father. After Jesus was crucified, and shortly before He ascended to the Father, He consoled His disciples with....."I will send a comforter", the Holy Ghost. So, The Father didn't leave His throne to impart Himself in all of us, that is the work of the Holy Spirit. Jesus prayed to the Father, bearing witness to another part of His deity. We are to pray to the Father, in the name of Jesus, because He is the One of the Three Who did the work on the cross. The Holy Spirit (The Comforter) comes and indwells in us after we have confessed to God that we are sinners in need of a savior, again of course, Jesus, meaning we believe (have faith in) and accept as Truth the fact that Jesus is God, left His deity on His throne, came to Earth for one purpose, to live the exemplary life of obedience to God's Holy, inerrant, infallible, inspired, Word, the Bible. And, that "No man comes unto the Father, but through the Son", which in no uncertain terms means, if you reject the Son, you are rejecting the Father, upon your own free will, and therefore upon your own free will, choose not to spend eternity in Heaven, but in torment, Hell, without end. The three-in-one God, are indeed all God, yet are three distinct personas of God. Different functions in Heaven and in Earth. Creator, Savior, Comfortor. Thank you for raising the issue and for taking the time to read this. God bless you much.:)