What do you guys think of this? If the government won't do their job,then i guess the citizens will?

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The politics of illegal immigration


Finally someone from Washington is paying a little attention to the battle going on over illegal immigration on this side of the country. 65 Comment(s)
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'Private Police Force' group sets sights on illegal immigrants, plans to make citizen's arrests

By: JOSE CARVAJAL - Staff Writer

LA CRESTA -- Fed up with what it says is a failure on the part of authorities to act on the area's illegal immigrant problem, a group purporting to be residents of the affluent, sprawling and isolated La Cresta, Tenaja and Santa Rosa communities is vowing to take matters into its own hands.

A group calling itself Private Police Force announced last week on a new Web site that it will begin doing the job U.S. Border Patrol and the Riverside County Sheriff's Department aren't doing by conducting citizens' arrests on illegal immigrants and detaining them.

If it follows through on its promise, the group would be taking things further than other anti-illegal immigration groups, such as The Minutemen Project, which have previously deployed their members to monitor the U.S.-Mexico border and only report illegal immigrant sightings.


The Private Police Force is threatening to actually detain illegal immigrants.

"They will be handcuffed to the Oak Trees," according to the group's Web site, so they can be picked up by authorities.

"Don't treat this website lightly," the group states. "We will make Citizens Arrests on Illegal Aliens. We will File Criminal and Civil Complaints if you Hire or House an Illegal. If you have sold a vehicle to an illegal, we will prosecute you under the DMV law too. If you house an illegal, we will also prosecute you under the Zoning Laws."

Wendy Lee, a San Diego-based spokeswoman for the U.S. Border Patrol, defended the job her agency has done in the area. The La Cresta-Tenaja-Santa Rosa area is handled by the agency's Murrieta station, she said, and it has done a good job of both being proactive and being responsive when individuals come to the station with tips.

In this case, that isn't happening, she said Tuesday.

"We haven't had a complaint from the community around (Murrieta) stating there is a problem there," Lee said. "We haven't had any reports that I know of. ... If they want to report it to us, we will take care of it."

When asked whether the Private Police Force group could legally conduct citizens' arrests, Lee said she did not have an answer. If the group is found to be violating the rights of individuals, she said, it will have to answer for that.

"This is a free country," Lee said. "They will have to face authorities."

Though it states it is prepared to identify those in the community sympathetic to illegal immigrants, the group ---- which launched its Web site through an anonymous Internet-hosting company ---- is not yet identifying any of its own members.

The names and photos of those who oppose the group's efforts will be posted on the Web site, www.privatepoliceforce.com, according to a statement on the site. The names and photos of known illegal-immigrant workers will also be posted, the statement says.

Also, arrests will be recorded on video and offered for viewing on the Web site, the group states.

The only information provided on the site about the group's members is that "We have three lawyers and several regular police officers who have pledged private investigation time in our area," and that the group would be hiring "a few security professionals."

Requests for interviews through the group's e-mail address were not returned this week.

According to the group's statement, "Many Mexican illegals are stealing from many residents on the Santa Rosa Plateau, including La Cresta, Tenaja and the surrounding communities." The immigrants camp in the nearby canyons and other areas and are employed by homeowners in the community, the statement says.

Many of them have escaped or have been released from Mexican jails and have lengthy criminal records that include child molestation, rape and murder, according to the statement.

Proof is not offered to support any of those claims.

Longtime La Cresta resident Vicki Long said Tuesday that the area has had its share of problems with illegal immigrants over the years. Though she said she is not aware what the situation is now, Long said there was a time several years ago when illegal immigrants would deal drugs and fire guns from a camp near her property.

The group and its Web site, she said, are an indication that it is probably still a problem.

"I just question why they're having to do that when we've got other agencies that should be handling the problem," Long said. "We pay our taxes for that sort of thing. I don't know why law enforcement isn't helping these people. They sound quite desperate."

Though the group echoes some of the things Long said about the illegal immigrant problem in the area on its Web site, it does so with much more inflammatory language.

In a section of the Web site ---- which appears professionally done and features photos of police officers, barbed wire and a set of hands cuffed behind someone's back ---- titled "How to Recognize an Illegal/Thief," the group offers several tips.

Among the things to look for, it states, are "If they carry a short garden hose, used to siphon gas from your car at night" and "If they carry their lunch in a plastic bag composed of stolen oranges and burritos."

Answer 1

This is what I'm talking about...if the gov. doesn't want to do their jobs then friggin move over and let the citizens do it!! People are tired of the gov. not upholding our laws and just letting whoever cross the borders!! More power to these people. They got tired of waiting for the gov. to do their jobs so they're going to do it !! Good post TY

~add on~ I think I found the site....it looks quite professional....here's the link http://www.privatepoliceforce.com/n2.asp
OK this site is awesome if you are anti illegal anything then you need to check it out...here's a small quote.
The Uncooperatives

"If we receive any resident opposition, we will prosecute them for interference in a legal proceeding. There are always dissidents who feel they are beyond the law. They may believe Jose is here legally. Well guess what - we’re going to make an example of people like them, because this is a pilot program and we’re going National.

We will be publishing any and all resident opposition names including pictures. We will also publish Mexican worker names with photos. You will become the talk of the Community. "

It makes me want to move there!! These people ROCK!!!!!

Answer 2

Every American is hurt by Illegal Immigrants being here. They don't have to mug you,but they will. They don't have to rob your house,but they will. They don't have to get drunk and run over your kids,but they will. A very large percentage of them after all have little or no respect for the law,why should they,we don't punish them for the laws they've already broken so why not break more? But when you look at the depressing of wages,unpaid taxes on work done in the US,identity theft,welfare fraud,rising crime rates,eroding schools etc. Then we are all the victims of Illegal Immigration,therefore we should all sue. AD

Answer 3

Didn't read the whole thing, but yes sometimes the government is slow to act and that is where the citizens come in. In our free country, we may not realize it, but we actually need government a lot less than we pretend to. We have problems such as homelessness and poverty here, for example. We shouldn't wait on the government to provide low-cost housing, medicare, or welfare payments. Entrepreneurs and businesspeople should be using their freedom and the free market to create solutions. Corporations can easily build low-cost housing that will turn a profit to house all the homeless using capitalism. The government is good for some things, but some good personal responsibility by the citizens can solve many problems, and immigration too.

Answer 4

Sqwirl Hater, I have tried for three days to get that link and I have not been able to get ti to load, THANK YOU!
I think that along with citizen groups like the Minutemen, and others, These people, if serious, will continue to make a significant impact on the problem of Criminal Trespassers which our elected officials are choosing to ignore or just pay lip service to.
I wonder if it might be possible to form a chapter of our own? I will keep an eye on this group and see if there are some things that they do that I might be able to accomplish here in my community.
Finally, a group of like minded people with some "Grande Cojones!" I wish them good fortune and good hunting.

Answer 5

This is good, and it's about time! But how long will we continue to pay the people who are supposed to be doing something? And was this reaction by the public planned to give the government a reason to declare martial law?

Answer 6

THIS IS TOO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I have been saying this all along!
We citizens should be outraged by all the ILLEGALS and willing to take matters into our own hands!
I am glad to see these people had the guts to stand up and take it on!
We all should be like them.
I loved the site.Thanks Rox for finding it.

Answer 7

That's awesome! Thanks for posting and good job! Keep us informed, will you?

I'm very happy to hear that. It's about damn time! People are just sick and tired of our useless government getting paid to do squat! They are on vacation more than they "work". When they are supposed to be working, they don't. Great news.

Answer 8

Wow, that would be great! But I thought citizens arrest doesn't apply to illegals (as per Minutemen)

I'd sure like to keep in touch with this!

Answer 9

next time just provide the link to the article. this is too much. good for the private police but i can see it getting out of hand if people everywhere get the same idea.

Answer 10

I support doing thigs ourselves. Right along.