since joining Y Answers, I think I have seen it go both ways. (50 - 50)
2006-08-20 19:49:39
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answered by Calvin of China, PhD 6
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I'm a Christian. But I agree that, on many occasions, Christians do shove their religion down other people's throats. Whenever someone tells an atheist that they're going to hell because they don't believe- that's persecution. The stuff you mentioned about kids getting suspended, that doesn't usually happen and I agree that it's wrong. But as far as teaching evolution... yes, I believe that it's right that kids learn evolution, rather than whatever their teachers happen to believe. Evolution is almost a proven fact (not to mention, it doesn't conflict with religion the way everyone seems to think it does), while religions are faith-based. Besides, if we're talking about persecution and stereotypes, let's look at your comment "If the people had it their way we’d all be dead slaughtered like Hitler did to the Jews." You're basically just claiming that all atheists want all Christians dead. Don't you think that's a little persecuting and stereotypical? Look at it from all angles.
2006-08-14 07:14:13
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous 3
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Atheists say that Christianity is shoved down their throats due "Christian" produced by McChurches in America. It is akin to the fact that I can drive into almost any town and find a McDonalds and a Wal-mart: Mainstream Christianity is pretty much a mass-produced yet shoddy product. The average church patron comes infor approximatly 1.5 hours a week to hear a sermon, sing a few songs, and then goes home for the rest of the week to act like the rest of the country. You don't see the community of Christians police and guide their own, except for those exceptional few who strive to become Christ-like. And even then, they often are shot-down by those who use the lable of "Christian" as a cudgle in order to get other to follow their way. Far too often have I encountered some bible-bashing Christian who, upon being asked to explain the reason for their faith, can give nothing other then "I was raised in it" or "It makes me feel good".
As stated in another question similar to your own, the reason is because of a lack of strong Christians who not only follow the disciple part, but also the "love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do unto others" with the same forgiveness and emotion as Christ did, as well as an over-abundance of bible-bashing, trash-talking, Christmas & easter "Christians" who would switch if a better offer came along.
2006-08-14 07:47:54
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answered by Ferrell R 1
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Evolution is not atheism. Evolution is a scientific theory. Atheism is a philosophical viewpoint. The Theory of Evolution, does not state anywhere, that "there is survival of the fittest... oh, and there's no God too." It has no viewpoint on religiosity.
Public schools are funded by the public. Meaning an Jew, a Musilm, a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Christian, an Agnostic, an Atheist, a Wiccan, can all attend. Just because Christianity is the most popular religion in America doesn't mean it's the one that should be allowed in schools. Just like you don't want to hear about Confuscious and his teachings in school, nobody else wants to hear about Jesus.
Here's a story about persecution: Jehovah's Witnesses. They come to my door, interrupt my life, and ask if I want to believe in what they believe. That is the height of arrogance.
Wasn't it Jesus who told you all to persecute against other faiths? (Mathew 28:18-20)
I don't want Christians dead, (my parents and extended family are Christian and I love them very much), I'd like them to stop interfering in government, science, and my life.
2006-08-14 07:17:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Christians have been shoving their religion for a very long time, and they still do. Christianity would not be no.1 religion in the world if the christian missionaries didn't go and convert everybody everywhere they went. Since religion is hardly based on any fact, but a book, it should not be involved in worldly matters. So when you go on and tell me that it is against Jesus' will to abort my baby, you are shoving your religion down my throat. When you tell me that intelligent design should be taught in school, you are shoving your religion down my throat. Religion should never have more status than an association of people with similar beliefs, like a club, and not some political driver.
2006-08-22 03:14:38
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answered by Natasha 3
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There are more than 10 Christians to every atheist in this country, but WE'RE PERSECUTING YOU???????
I have no problem with true Christians, I DO have a problem with those who call themselves Christians yet foster hatred in the name of their religion.
Most "Christians" don't even read the Bible, they allow others to tell them what it says and end up with a very skewed version on what it says. Most of them don't think about God except for a couple of hours on Sunday morning and when it comes time to gang up on someone.
There are reasons they teach evolution and not Creationism in schools. Ask any Jesuit.
George Bush (the elder) said he didn't know if he could consider atheists citizens; if you want to start throwing around the name of Hitler, how do you think that made me feel? (Hitler was a Christian BTW) And it's been downhill ever since.
2006-08-21 18:44:36
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answered by raysny 7
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Public schools are run and supported by the state. If a public school preaches a religion, it is doing so on the state's dime. Seperation of Church and State, remember?
Atheists are persecuted. I have in fact been pushed around, beaten, and slandered multiple times by so-called "good Christians". A friend of mine was murdered because she was not a Christian way back in 1984. I have seen another girl in Montana actually put before a judge and accused of withcfraft. I have listened to Christian preachers tell their captive audiences that they should go out and convert everyone they meet, by force if nessecary.
How many churches have been bombed by atheists? Contrast that with the number of clinics and hospitals bombed by Christians. It isn't atheists who are killing people in the Middle East or Ireland. It isn't atheists who aggressively try to rewrite history and science. Atheists do not leave Jack Chick tracts everywhere, or try to paper hospitals with anti-medical rants. When was the last time an atheist knocked on your door and threatened your soul with destruction unless you became an atheist?
Atheists do not want anyone rounded up and slaughtered. That idea is part of the ever-popular Christian Persecution Complex. We'd prefer to be left alone and not subjected to Chrisitan judgements about our moral quality. We'd rather have scientific discovery encouraged rather than condemned. We'd rather have people taken care of and educated than sneered at for having different beliefs.
2006-08-14 07:31:58
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answered by Scott M 7
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"When you go to public school teachers can't talk about their beliefs they have to teach evolution" ... Public school teachers aren't paid to discuss their beliefs; their job is to teach science. Parents who want creationism taught in school are parents who take their kids to church, where they learn about the Genesis tales of creationism. So the primary concern of Christians who object to evolutionism being taught in schools is that they want *other people's children* to be taught creationism. That's wrong. Leave the rearing of other people's children to their parents.
"They suspended a girl for praying with her friends and a boy for wearing a Christian shirt. They don't do that to any other religions"
... If you read the news about colleges and universities -- and West Point military academy is a good example -- you'd know that Christian groups in school often tend to be bombastic and elitist. All religious groups have that potential, but Christians -- as convert-seekers -- are the worst. That proselytizing kind of Christian clique tends to ostracize kids of other faiths or none. School is supposed to teach how to get along in society, not how to convert others.
Church and state are supposed to be separate, and if you don't believe that, try imagining the reaction among bible-believers if a student got up at graduation and delivered a speech about how Buddha's enduring love and grace changed her life. You'd hear Christians howling in all the adjoining states for days. Christians want *their* god in school, not anyone else's.
"Atheists say they are persecuted but they aren’t; people don’t shove them around." ... The difference between Christians and non-Christians is that non-Christians want to keep their personal freedoms and not have Christian morality infringe upon their rights. On the other hand, Christians aren't content with changing a channel on a show they object to -- they want the show canceled so no one can see it. They aren't content living life by their own moral code -- they want to force it on everybody else.
2006-08-14 07:19:50
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answer #8
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answered by Sweetchild Danielle 7
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My Dear Sister,
It is unconstitutional for a School to censer your expression of your Faith in Jesus Christ ! There have recently been several land mark Suits agents Public Schools for doing just that ! You have the Right to carry your Bible, Wear a Christian Message T - Shirt, and Pray with your Friends on School grounds ! Do Not Allow Anyone to tell you differently !!
2006-08-22 06:52:42
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answered by Minister 4
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I'm an atheist, but I'll make two points for you:
A) No self-respecting atheist wants christians, or any religion, to be the victims of another Holocaust. What the Nazis did was unconscionably evil, and I'd do anything I could to prevent that.
B) Any school that suspends a student for prayer (that doesn't happen DURING class; that is, it's OK between classes in the halls or at the desk) or for wearing a religiously-themed shirt ought to have its principal fired. You have the right to express your religion. I think you're wrong, but I have nothing but respect for your rights as a religious person.
2006-08-14 07:11:35
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answered by Brian L 7
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I think that both sides need to back down a little. Freedom is freedom, is freedom, and it does not need to be qualified or defined. Everyone should be able to practice, talk and display what they believe in, as long as it does not require tax dollars to do it. On the other hand, the atheists need to let it go. they have their freedom to turn off their TVs during the holidays, and turn their heads the other way when they pass a creche or a Menorah. C'mon, live and let live.
2006-08-21 11:45:17
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answered by ? 3
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