who really teaches his disciples for free ? and not the real popular ones like sai baba,srisri ravishankar,mata amritanandamayi . they either charge u for their courses, or just ask u to pray to them . i am looking for something concrete , a master who will teach out of love for god which he will see in all his students. i want that u should really feel a difference , when u meet such a person.
2006-08-14 05:40:33 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
THE PRIMARY Spiritual Master is The Lord (within our heart, next to our own spirit soul), but The Lord also sends his God Realized representatives to earth to help us fallen spirit souls who are SINCERELY COMMITTED AND DISCIPLINED, ready, willing and able to remember, become purified, reconnect and go back to Him and our Eternal Home in the Spiritual Sky.
This is the fallen age of Kali Yuga, and as such it is very difficult to find a bone-fide guru who is FULLY God-Realized and not at a lower stage of God Realization or a "bogus guru-wanna-be" who will eventually fall from the yogic ladder on the stairway to heaven due to misuse of "spiritual power or yogic siddhis"! Be very very very very cautious when you "select" a guru! It can take lives or decades before a spiritual aspirant is blessed in this way!
(BTW, one's astrological chart can show this readiness for guru and the kind of guru one will meet and when and even tell the level of God realization of the guru.)
Also, remember that your plan for awakening was designed long ago, and it is a matter of you following the inner guidance of God-Guru Within aka Paramatma within your heart until you meet your "incarnated" diksa-siksa guru who gives the initiations. It is actually more like "When the student is ready, The Teacher will appear."
But why work with "middle management gurus" who are not FULLY realized yet when one can go to the Top CEO, a Bhagavad Realized guru?
There are three levels of God Realization, though, and out there in the world of "gurus" there are hundreds and even thousands at the lower stages of spiritual enlightenment! They can help you along the way, or may help you get sidetracked, but why not go for someone who is fully realized? So look and pray with devotion and sincerity for the FULLY Bhagavad realized guru!
3 stages of God Realization:
Stage one is Brahman Realization
Stage two is Paramatma Realization
Stage three is Bhagavan Realization.
(definitions and detail on each stage found at the links below)
Plus there are several stages of each of these three, so one ideally knows the signs of each stage and the traits of a bone fide guru! This is also done by hearing their realized words, not by seeing Him and any "miracles" he is purported to have done! Caution! These traits of a bone-fide guru are written about in several of the works which are available on-line link (listed below) for free. Gurus can be alive through books! THe magnificent writings at this link are in all languages of the world and are in book, paperback, CD, DVD forms. There is enough readings to keep you happy and enlivened spiritually for many lives to come!
Also the words "alive" or "living" mean spiritually alive, not necessarily with a material body-vehicle, so I am sceptical of many of the "fallen gurus" who came after SP passed in 77. Caution!
Advanced jyotishis (Vedic astrologers) can also see from gurus' astrological chart if this is a bone-fide guru. That helps a lot with all the gurus out there! I wish you the highest blessings and mercy of THe Lord on your way back to Him-Home.
2006-08-14 07:32:05 · answer #1 · answered by gopigirl 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Dear Great Guy: "A Master who will teach out of love for God which he will see in all his students. I want to really feel a difference, when I meet such a person. "
Lo ! He is with you, always. ". . .and of this be sure; that I will never leave you comfortless."
When did you decide that He had died? During His Resurrection? Or, after His Ascension, when He appeared to Saul [Paul] riding to Damascus? At what point, have you decided He is dead?
Why are you running to others - who would charge you a "fee" to say something to you that they got in their own studies, from the Holy Spirit - no matter what language the interpretations you hear have come from? The same Holy Spirit Who taught Jesus everything He knew [using Talmudic study for the Holy Spirit's teaching tool ?]
There is nothing new under the sun. Just the same teachings of the Holy Spirit through . . .whoever ! Some say it more poetically, some say it another way. . . different tongues, but always the same basic thoughts.
I challenge you to open "A Course in Miracles." Then tell me you did not see much in it !
I challenge you to invite Jesus into a Relationship. Fasten your Seat Belt . . .He's still alive and teaching through your Mind. Just ask Him questions - listen for the Answers. You can even hear His human voice in your head teaching you. He can project that through the One Mind to you. Read something and ask about things as you read ! You want the above that is in your question? Take the challenge. You won't be bored.
I promise you this - for you are my brother.
I leave you with this:
"Are other teachers possible, to lead the way? . . .Certainly there are." Jesus, however, speaks YOUR natural language. "In him you find God's Answer."
2006-08-14 06:17:14 · answer #2 · answered by Lana S (1) 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No one can tell you which spiritual master is for you. That you have to find on your own. But I commend you for at least having the thought to ask such a question. This is actually the beginning of human life -- to approach a spiritual master to learn the Absolute Truth. Also, its good that you have immediately separated out the bogus people who charge money for their teachings. This is a dead give away that such people are materially motivated and therefore cannot connect you to the Lord.
The symptoms of one who is a bona fide guru are 1) he/she has heard from their spiritual master who is coming in a line of realized souls from the Lord. In other words, the real teacher does not make things up, but gives directly the knowledge learned from the Lord through disciplic succession. 2) he/she is a realized soul themselves. They have heard from a realized soul in disciplic succession, have followed the teachings and have realized the Absolute Truth, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Gurus on lower levels of Brahman (impersonal aura of the Lord) and Paramatma (supersoul) realization are insufficient to lead a person to the ultimate goal of pure love of Godhead (prema-bhakti). 3) he/she knows the Vedic sastras and is able to instruct the disciple in such a way that he can make progress from any position.
The principle for finding the guru that is meant for you is to be very sincere and serious in your desire. If you are, then the Lord residing in your heart will make the arrangement for you to meet him/her. I wish you good luck on your journey. Maintain your sincerity and the Lord will bring you back to Him.
2006-08-14 06:36:27 · answer #3 · answered by Jagatkarta 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Amma to me fits all of that criteria. It is free to spend time with her. I've never had to pay for anything. I've known Amma for a year and spent a lot of time around her observing her. I am so amazed how much of an impact on feeling and learning the true meaning of God's Love just by doing something simple, watching her shower everyone with true unconditional Divine Love.
It sounds like you have a certain mental affinity and when one does not meet your "mental affinity", you cast judgments and make generalized assumptions which itself is ego-based. And the very fact that you say "just ask you to pray to them" sounds like you're not ready to be humble, and bow down to the Atman within yourself. Surely don't you know that all of these gurus are representative of the Atman within us? When one refuses to pray or bow down to the guru, regardless of who they are, that means you refuse to bow to the Atman inside. That is letting your ego controling you.
No matter where Amma is in the world, I have experienced true Divine Love from her in visions which was the most beautiful and powerful thing I have ever experienced. She shows me who I am inside.
You already have a guru and now you're looking for him or her. I had been looking for my guru for several years. I prayed and talked to "her" "I'm ready, I'm waiting for you, please come to me!" But it was not yet my time to meet her, until last year. As soon as I met Amma, I knew right away she was the guru I had been looking for. I saw her face for several years, but I did not know she was for real.
Do you have any clues or sense of who your guru is? Do you sense your guru a male or female? Do you dream of anybody that comes to you or visualize a particular person. Sometimes we get clues prior to meeting them. Your guru already knows who you are and will decide when it is the time to to meet you. It is when the student is ready, that the teacher appears. From your statement, there is a lot of ego, ignorance, and so on. So take a look at where you are spiritually and pray to your "guru" that you are ready, talk to your "guru" as if he/she is there. He/she will hear everythign you say and give you signs or messages. Pay attention and really listen within. Your guru is already inside of you. These Masters are in "form" to help us find the guru/Atman that is within ourselves.
I wish you luck and hope you have a great journey meeting your guru!
2006-08-14 08:07:45 · answer #4 · answered by Amma's Child 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Satan Teaches thats all he did in the Bible but he got a bad reputation for it. He helped Adam and Eve to gain knowledge
2006-08-14 05:46:59 · answer #5 · answered by g-day mate 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Go to billybobs house of rattlesnake worship on route 99
2006-08-14 05:44:55 · answer #6 · answered by hatingmsn 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Hiya! Just look at the ebooks on my web.
2006-08-14 05:45:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
www.bkwsu.org
God is the master
2006-08-14 05:46:10 · answer #8 · answered by krish 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes -- JESUS CHRIST.
2006-08-14 05:54:49 · answer #9 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋