Didnt Jesus Pray to God? Is he GOD?

Question

Jesus Wouldnt pray to himself would he? ANd though he said Me and The Father are one, in the same Gospel didnt he also say Nothing I do is of My own initiative but of that of the Father! Didnt he always direct attenton and praise form him saying "Only the Father is Good. Call no one Teacher (Rabbi) or Father (priest)... and so on? So how can Jesus be God!

When he was fist baptized didnt a voice Come out of heaven (and not his own mouth) and Say "this is my son the beloved whom I have approved....?"
And didnt the holy spirit come down in a form of a Dove? Three seperate indiviiduals never b4 linked as one. SO how do we beleive in a trinity or even that Jesus is God!?

Answer 1

YES, Jesus did pray to his heavenly Father many times. And NO, he never claimed to be equal to God. When Jesus died, who resurrected him back to heaven? It was God who was in heaven.
Also the Bible says that no man has seen God, but many saw Jesus. It also tells us that no man can see God and live. Many saw Jesus and lived. Here are a few more Scriptures which prove the Trinity doctrine is a false teaching of Christendom:
John 5:26,27: "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man." (If Jesus were God, he would already have authority)
John 5:30: "--as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." (If they were one, it would be the same will)
John 5:37: "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."NW Trans. (This corresponds with the fact that no one has ever seen God in any form.)
There are many more to show that God and his Son are entirely separate, one being greater than the other.

Answer 2

I know this is hard to understand, but we don't always understand everything God does, and we don't always need to, we just need to have faith. But, besides that, think of the trinity like an egg: an egg consists of the yolk, the white, and the shell. All different things, yet all one egg. St. Patrick used a three leaf clover to explain the trinity to Ireland. Three leaves, all making one clover. Which is why you see the clover everywhere on St. Patrick's day.
Jesus was praying to God the Father, and the Holy Spirit did come down in the form of a dove. Jesus also said that when He left the earth, God would send the Holy Spirit in Jesus' name, to be with believers. Think of it as three separate people holding the same office, just doing different things.

Answer 3

The concept of God being a Triune God -- three persons in one -- has always been one of the hardest things to understand about the Christian faith.

(1) God the Father
(2) God the son, Jesus
(3) God the Holy Spirit

I think to understand this you should try to understand the role of each of these people. They are all God and there is only one God (not three). But God is coming to us in three forms -- as the Father, as the son and as the Holy Spirit.

God the Father -- created all things including man. He also created Jesus, his son, to come here to earth, live as a man, be tempted as we are, to live without sin, and to die on the cross for our sin. Jesus then is the ultimate sacrifice to show how much God loves us.

Jesus rose from the dead, to demonstrate that He was God and could defeat even death. He rose to save us all from the sinful condition to which we are all born. Without Christ we would be lost to sin. To receive this gift -- all we need to do is to believe this.

The Holy Spirit lives in each believer -- so He lives in me and if you believe He lives in you. The Holy Spirit lives today and reigns over God's creation -- guiding us in our actions. The Holy Spirit is also God -- so the power that we think of God having is within this form of God as well. People seldom tap into the power of God through the Holy Spirit -- to the extent that we all should.

So there is an order here -- God the Father is the one who Jesus should have prayed to. Jesus was acknowledging His Father and the authority His Father has over all things.

But all three of these are God -- the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Good question.

It's a tough one to understand and grasp -- but it is good you are wrestling with it.

Answer 4

Jesus is the son of God. If you look at Genesis 1:26 it says "Let us..." God is talking to someone and the only other beings he talked to are angels, the devil, a couple of humans, and Jesus. Since the devil is supposedly a fallen angel, and angels from the descriptions in the old and new testaments look nothing like man, and since no other humans were alive at that time, my guess is that He was talking to His son, Jesus. My guess is that when Jesus prayed to God He was just talking to His dad. In the Bible, you never see anyone else calling God ABBA, which means daddy (Mark 14:36). He said in the new testament that no one comes to the father except by the son. So in summation, they are different beings, but have the same power. Also look at the way Jesus respected God and looked to Him for answers.

Answer 5

After glorification, Jesus Christ is God. The Son of God refers to the Divine Human form which is right in the middle of the trinity.

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is like the soul, the body and the works in a single person.

Answer 6

The bible has tons of scriptures that disprove the trinity doctrine. One of the reasons that it still exists is because it was imbedded in early Christianity. After the apostles died, thats when people began to develop their own philosophies, and others followed. Trinity god's were worshiped before Christianity, and it just weaved it's way into it. Jesus and the apostle Paul foretold that these things would occur, so it should be no suprise. People only refuse to believe it because either they've invested so much of their lives into their beliefs, or they simply feel as though they want to join a religion that conforms to their lifestyle rather than seeking truth. God never will allow his loyal, righteous servants to be confused about who he is. If that was the case, we would never be able to draw close to him.

Answer 7

You're talking about a book of myths. None of it has been proved, and none of it will be proved. It's similar to believing in any other superstition.

If you think that one is odd, how about Noah and the ark (getting animals from all over the world to board this ark, especially when it had to be sea-worthy, and have bathroom and food facilities for 40 days). Or, Jonah living in the whale. Or the talking donkey. Or a supposed virgin giving birth. Turning water into wine. Feeding 5,000 people with 2 loaves and 5 fish. Or anything in Revelation. It all sounds like someone was smoking something very powerful when they had pen in hand!

Answer 8

Yes or No just won't cut it with this one.

This is something I've struggled with for a while now. I accepted Christ in my 20's after leading a very "ungodly" life. I knew that if one part of the Bible was wrong then I couldn't base my life on it. In my prayer and study this is what I believe to be the truth behind your question.

Stay with me here. In the book of Genesis "God" created man in His image. If you look at us "humans" we are composed of 3 individual parts; mind, body and soul. (Assuming you believe in that). Our body is the flesh and bone. Our Mind is what gives us the capacity to think and be self aware. Our Soul is the intangible that will exist after we die. Humans are finite and as such we can't separate our mind from our body or soul, and even though we can’t separate them no one would argue that they are truly three separate things.

God on the other hand is infinite (which by definition we could never comprehend, but I wasn't going to use that as a cop out) He is able to separate His Mind (God the Father) from His Body (Jesus the God Man) from His Soul (The Holy Spirit).

The mind, body and soul of God are completely individual and distinguishable from one another, and just like His creation they are a make-up of one and the same entity.

This is how God made us in His image. He gave us Mind, Body and Soul!

DF2P,
Tree House

Answer 9

Personally, I find the whole trinity thing very confusing. Jesus is the son of God. Jesus and God being one is like saying that my son is part of me. My spirit is part of me too, so both my son and my spirit are part of me.

Answer 10

Jesus was a messenger of God. He is clearly surbodinate to the Father in the bible, and worships the father. Unfortunately the early followers of Jesus who believed he was a prophet were outnumbered by the pagan converts who mixed the religion with roman and greek methology to form the God man.