Question for everyone?

Question

Agnostic here, not trying to change anyone's religion.

Assumption: that the regulars here have figured out what religious preference the other regulars are on here.
Assumption 2: You saw the question I asked about Islam, and terrorism, and poverty.

Question: Do you find it interesting, that most of the non-religious agreed that the root cause of Islamic terrorism, is poverty; while most (not all) if the regulars who are religious, disagreed. Why do you think that is, that the prism of how we view the world is so different.

It seems the rift between religious and non-religious, in terms of the rift of their world view, is so huge, that its not the same at all.

Where do you think that comes from?

Original question
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AuF9apqpOGoC6zZSSfz_PQvsy6IX?qid=20060814073504AAykP5A

Answer 1

I based it on my belief, just like everyone did. And you pointed that out in not so few words that all your question did was define the line that there are non believers and believers, which I think everyone already knew.
I would like to hear back from you on my answer to the original question. Just to see what you thought.

Answer 2

I am a Christian and not looking to change anybody's religion,
but I can admit that Nietchze was right.
People have an inherent need to dominate others. This is the cause of all the "isms" in the world Racism, Sexism, Nationalism, Colonialism none of which has done humankind any good.
Organized religion has historically been used to justify the "isms" in order to gain power, land, riches an economic foothold etc.

Terrorism provides a cohesive unit for those who are dissatified to gain power, land, riches or an economic foothold it has little to do with Islam. We saw this in WWII, slavery and segregation in the USA, Militia groups in the Midwest, and individual acts of terrorism perpetrated by Americans on our own soil.

While poverty plays a part in some terrorism/acts of violence it is not the root cause many other factors come into play I'm speaking again of the isms, a code of "honor", past history with group and even climate.

Answer 3

Jim,
An interesting observation. I too, have noticed that people who describe themselves as very religious, tend to see everything through the lens of their religious perspective. They sometimes tend to judge those of other faiths, and those without faith. Of course, I'm stereotyping here. As far as the connection between Islamic terrorism, and poverty, I think there is one, but in reverse. I think that the fundamentalists, act as a suppressant to economic development. Who wants to invest their money and resources, in an environment where you can be shot for wearing the wrong clothes? Nobody I know. It is a vicious circle. The fundamentalists keep everyone poor, and then recruit their new members from the ranks of the hopeless, which they keep filled, etc etc. What do we do with the fundamentalists of all faiths? They are truly a thorn in the side of humanity. I guess I'll just do what Jesus told me to do. Pray for them, love them, do good to them, and bless them.

Answer 4

I'm not a regular but you said the question was for everyone.

If the question is "Do you find it interesting... yada yada yada" then I would have to say not all that much. There are things I find more interesting.

However, it does seem logical that the so-called "believers" and the so-called "non-believers" would differ in their opinions about some things. Otherwise, why would there be any need to distinguish between them as two separate groups?

Answer 5

I think it comes from looking at the world with two comepletely different and opposite views. The non-religious I believe look at the world and attempt to answer its many questions through natural means (i.e. economical, social, science, chemestry, genetics, environment, etc.) where religious people have a broader view looking at things not only from a physical (i.e. things mentioned previously with science, economical, etc.), but also a non-physical point-of-view which encompasses forces outside of our normal physical state that can act upon and influence things of the ohysical realm.

If the non-religious do not believe in a spiritual realm then they are not going to believe things that are of the spiritual realm so they tend to limit their reasoning and logic to things of a natural, physical realm with natual causes and forces acting upon things that affect us.

Answer 6

Jim I would just like to compliment you on your face lift. You didn't think anyone would notice did you? It makes you look days younger.

I wouldn't fully agree with poverty. I think most of it is simply that they have been raised this way and it is all they know. They have watched their elders do this religious/warring thing for centuries and naturally they think it is up to them to continue the tradition. They think it is the right way to live. That is why it is more important to take them the news of Christianity rather than try to cram democracy down their throats. That is just one persons opinion. But now you know the rest of the story.

Answer 7

non-religious people have to believe that the spiritual realm is neutral and non-existent. Religious people believe that the spiritual realm is real, and affects the world we live in.

I have the ability to see a spiritual reality, and to assign it some responsibility. You, as an agnostic, do not have that ability, and thus must assign responsibility elsewhere.

Answer 8

Wow you're an idiot.

Your conclusions based on the answers to the linked question are nothing short of ridiculous. The pattern you refer to does not exist. Then you speak of a rift based on your flawed opinion. Then you ask where it comes from. You want a rift between believers and non-believers? Try the one that exists between their beliefs of some creator. Yours is a waste of time to consider.

Answer 9

Assume nothing. As Buzz says, that makes and A** of U and ME. (Buzz was a wise-cracking and weird character from the Supergirl comic series that ended a year or so ago... read it and weep for him). Both your assumptions are wrong in relation to me.
People, though do filter their answers through religion and religion was begun as a sort of means for profit. You come to your own conclusions.

Answer 10

I would have to say I see your assumptions as misplaced. How do you determine religious or non-religious? How do you judge (which is really not a good thing anyway) what others' opinions should or shouldn't be?