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There are many mass killer kings who were canonised because of political reasons or because some miracles can be associated with them. Now that the church is not as secular as it used to be, is it possible to put those "saints" to where they should belong?

2006-08-14 02:46:11 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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First, the Church has admitted that she was wrong, just not on matters of Doctrine or Dogma - on those she is infalliable.

Secondly, and to answer your question, before the formal canonization process began in the fifteenth century, many saints were proclaimed by popular approval. This was a much faster process but unfortunately many of the saints so named were based on legends, pagan mythology, or even other religions -- for example, the story of the Buddha traveled west to Europe and he was "converted" into a Catholic saint! In 1969, the Church took a long look at all the saints on its calendar to see if there was historical evidence that that saint existed and lived a life of holiness. In taking that long look, the Church discovered that there was little proof that many "saints", including some very popular ones, ever lived. Christopher was one of the names that was determined to have a basis mostly in legend. Therefore Christopher (and others) were dropped from the universal calendar.

So yes, some Saints have been removed.

If, however, there are miracles associated with them, and the process was followed - then they are to remain a Saint. Look at St. Joan d'Arc. She was hardly a model of Christian ideology (killing how many in war), but still a Saint.

2006-08-14 03:03:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Yes some people do care about this. The lives of the saints was about the only part of Catholicism I like long ago. They were lovely stories.
I believe old John Paul II abolished the office of Devils Advocate (yes it was real) that was supposd to argue evidence against the canidate's sainthood. John Paul II loved saints and would cannonize at the drop of his big ol pointy hat. And he would drop the hat. In 25 years he may have cannonized more than any other pope.
Bennedict the XVI likes saints too
But the Rev. C. John McCloskey, pastor at a Washington D.C., Catholic outreach center, likes to quote the pope's confidante, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger: "When someone complained the pope was naming too many saints," he recalls, "Cardinal Ratzinger replied, 'There cannot be too many saints.' " After all, McCloskey says, "making saints is the purpose of the church."

2006-08-14 03:24:03 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Catholics make the rules as they go along as my genuine Sicilian Grampa used to say about he Pope, "He maka the game and he maka the rules".

Father Guido Sarducci says yes you can get kicked out of Saint status if the Pope hears about some questionable miracles the Saint may be pulling off like supplying tips on horses, winning Lotto numbers without informing the Church first, stuff like that.

2006-08-14 02:58:25 · answer #3 · answered by B'klyn Barracuda 3 · 1 0

No, St. Christopher has not be de-canonized. His dinner social gathering day has in simple terms been remote from the calendar by using fact there is inadequate concepts approximately his existence. that's doubtful that he existed. On teh different hand, St. nicholas is a actual guy or woman. he replaced right into a bishop. that's amazingly impolite of you to assert that st. nicholas is the buyer saint ofthe jewish product proprietor's association. you're sounding like Martin Luther

2016-10-02 01:39:38 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The saints are God's elect. It doesn't matter if they can be "de-canonized". Had had chosen them from before. They have no free will, but are guided by God; they have a destiny.
Ephesians 1:4"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"
Talking to Jeremiah: Jer 1:5"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

2006-08-14 03:06:45 · answer #5 · answered by LP S 6 · 0 0

One the Catholic Church does not admit errors and two if they did most saints would have to be "de-canonized"

2006-08-14 02:55:48 · answer #6 · answered by Quantrill 7 · 0 1

The Catholic Church would have to admit that they were wrong to canonize those people. I don't think they would be likely to do that, even if they had a way to do it.

2006-08-14 02:52:42 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

No men! A saint is a saint!

2006-08-14 02:53:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Does anybody still pay attention to that stuff?

2006-08-14 02:50:40 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

not at all, unless god were to come to earth and tell us otherwise

2006-08-14 02:51:04 · answer #10 · answered by Eddie S 2 · 0 1

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