everyone of the apostles that i'm aware of have been made saints except judas. christ foretold peter would deny him thrice thomas doubted him, they are both saints. judas was destined to betray christ there was nothing he could do about it jesus had to die and judas had to betray him. its about time he was canonised.
as i do read all the answers please don't copy and paste half of the bible its not fair to the rest of us reading the answers.
2006-08-14 02:35:57 · 33 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
obviously you dont read or write alot tariq if thats how you spell re-type.
2006-08-14 03:11:44 · update #1
dave c its obvious which religion i am, lets just say we dont read from the same bible.
2006-08-14 03:53:22 · update #2
You know, I believe to this day that Judas is in Heaven. He fulfilled the prophecy of God. Without him, Jesus' death on the cross would not have happened.
He did what he did out of necessity. I believe he was chosen by God to be the one to enable the prophecy to be fulfilled. He was acting on God's orders and it is entirely unfair for the church to protray him as the most evil among mankind.
God needed things to happen exactly as they did and Judas was a huge part of all of that.
2006-08-14 02:49:09 · answer #1 · answered by mynx326 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I'd say Judas is a LOT more deserving of respect than even Jesus! Consider:
1.) By dying on the cross, what has Jesus really sacrificed? Ten, maybe 20 years of life as a rabbi in some Bronze Age backwater town, in exchange for RULING, FOREVER, in PARADISE! And Jesus never has to struggle with doubt or crises of faith -- he may be the son of God, but he also IS God; so from the instant of his birth, he KNOWS with absolute certainly that if he just sticks to the plan and does what his father says, he'll be ruling from on high for eternity. Hell, if you can make me that kind of ironclad guarantee, I'd let you throw me up on the cross TODAY!
2.) Judas, on the other hand, condemns himself to eternal damnation and gets his friend and mentor killed, just so that humanity can have a chance at redemption. And Judas has NO such assurances or guarantees that he's doing the right thing -- he could be wrong, and he could be letting a good man die for nothing....
2006-08-14 02:47:06 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Do you know what the word saint means outside of the misleading and mistaken Roman Catholic working definition of the term? I don't now what religion u are but the bible describes as a saint not one who lives like a saint, though they certainly can. A saint is someone who genuinely is relying on Jesus Christ for their salvation and has repented of their sins. Notice that the rebellious Corinthians in the New Testament were designated as saints nt because of their behavior, but inspite of their behavior.
2006-08-14 02:44:03 · answer #3 · answered by The Dave 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Since I'm not catholic, I don't believe humans can be making anyone a saint. Do you think God says, "oh look, the pope has declared so and so a saint, so I'll have to go saintize them"? God does not take orders from the catholic church, and they can say anyone they want is a saint, but it most certainly doesn't make it true. I think its a darn shame that any humans would dare to attempt to tell God what to do. The pope is selected by men, not God.
No one knows who are really saints, but I guess we'll find out on judgment day, huh? And guess what? It won't be our decision.
2006-08-14 02:41:25 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Judas was just doing the right thing.
At the time, the romans were boss, and jesus was just an unknown guy with a bead who spoke of strange religious stuff.
In modern day terms, he would be Bin Laden - and handing him over to the Americans seems to be the right thing to do.
2006-08-14 02:43:52 · answer #5 · answered by savs 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you make a very fair point...judas has been vilified as an arch villain for too long...
it is very true that he fulfilled the prophesies as jesus would have been aware and even by making a grave error of betrayal this would not condemn him, and jesus did not do this....
his reaction to his betrayal led him to despair and take his own life though and this meant that he could not fulfil the task of the disciples which was to be a witness to christs Resurrection...
this is his tragedy...it does not make him a villain but neither does it make him a saint
2006-08-14 07:41:42 · answer #6 · answered by uplate 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I've always wondered about people "making someone a saint". What does that mean exactly...and what significance does it have? Does it change what the "saint" did in his/her life? Does it change their status in the afterlife? Does it elevate their place in God's eyes? Or is it an entirely meaningless gesture that has significance only to those involved in "making" the person into a "saint"?
Am I alone in thinking that the whole concept of "sainthood" is a bit silly?
2006-08-14 02:40:46 · answer #7 · answered by Open Heart Searchery 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Interesting argument indeed. Seeing as the Catholic church decided to omit Judas gospel I don't see it happening myself. However the ones that doubted and betrayed Jesus did not betray him, that is seen as being a worse act.
2006-08-14 02:39:56 · answer #8 · answered by ehc11 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not all the apostles became saints:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Apostles
Otherwise, as long as Judas is recognized as a villian, he will never be accepted as a saint; or, someone who has "exceptional holiness", and is an "ideal model of excellence".
2006-08-14 02:46:53 · answer #9 · answered by Yngona D 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's as though people on earth can decide who is a saint and who isn't. There are some people who we can safely assume are saints, but there are probably many people who were saints, and nobody but God knows about it. The whole process of the Catholic church making people saints is a joke, like there's a set of rules to decide who is and who isn't, a set of rules made up by men.
2006-08-14 02:43:16 · answer #10 · answered by sethle99 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋