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Was Paul a misogynst and a liar? He said that this was Jesus's command.

2006-08-14 02:01:35 · 21 answers · asked by mouthbreather77 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Jesus's teaching on divorce -- Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11-12, Luke 16:18

Paul's teaching on divorce -- 1 Corinthians 7:10-11

2006-08-14 02:16:07 · update #1

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This is the problem with all religions. One part says one thing about something and another part says something totally different. If these writings actually came from god then there would be no confusion about what they mean. All religions would have exactly the same verses. Since all religions are created by man and not god then different men or woman had different ideas at different times in history. Religious leaders interpret the writings to suit their own beliefs and wants. The Pope is a very good example of that one. Then the clerics of Islam do the same to suit what they want. It is better to really got to know you and understand just who you are and then make the best of what you have to work with. The gals of this world should have exactly the same rites as the guys do. To say one is inferior is wrong.

2006-08-14 02:33:21 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

You are misquoting Jesus.

Matthew 19: Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

I know that God hates divorce:

Malachi 2:16 TNIV
"I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel, "and I hate it when people clothe themselves with injustice," says the LORD Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.

I don't see 1 Corinthians 7 as a contradiction of these scriptures. It seems like Paul is saying that you should never risk offending God through unfaithfulness or divorce. What I see is Jesus tightening up the restrictions that the Jews formerly had on divorce and Paul being even more cautious.

In the case of unfaithfulness. I believe that God would have us even then try to be reconciled because we have been forgiven. And don't think I am not speaking from experience either.

2006-08-14 02:13:46 · answer #2 · answered by Makemeaspark 7 · 0 0

Paul never said that women could never divorce. You are reading your own personal prejudice into the Bible.

1 Corinthians 7:10ff says nothing about divorce or remarriage. A woman was supposed to stay with her husband (and vice versa - no sexism here) if he was willing to stay there and endure the persecution that was coming. If he left, she wasn't given permission to depart from God.

2006-08-14 02:05:52 · answer #3 · answered by flyersbiblepreacher 4 · 0 0

Nowhere does it say God ever condoned diviorce but allowed it only in one case, that of adultery, but only because of the stiff necked people, stubborn ones, that insisted on it. But then only in the case of adultery and even then it was not mandatory that you divorce. God made marriage to be for a lifetime, hence, "till DEATH do us part". Never was meant to be just till I get tired of you or till I get what I want from you. So Paul was correct that women or men should never divorce as it is supposed to be a life committment. Jesus just told the thing that the bull headed ones wanted but only with the adultery. NOt what was originally planned but the only case that it would be permitted. So both were correct in their teachings.

2006-08-14 02:11:38 · answer #4 · answered by ramall1to 5 · 0 1

Paul wrote several years after Jesus had died. Jesus came form a jewish tradition, Paul was a rich roman citizen. They never met personally. Paul was not a disciple. He was supposedly inspired by spirit to write his letters. So, with all due respect, Pauls' writings do not reflect Jesus' teachings.

2006-08-14 02:11:30 · answer #5 · answered by morganna_f 3 · 1 0

Jesus taught what? Ok, normally I HATE answers that parrot a section of bible, but I think you're not quite getting the whole story here. Specifically, I refer to Chapter 19 of Matthew.

The pharisees test Jesus by asking if it is lawful for a man to divorce his wife. Jesus quotes Genesis:

4And He answered and said, "Have you not read (E)that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5and said, '(F)for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and (G)the two shall become one flesh

The pharisees then charge why Moses deemed it lawful to divorce.

8He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. 9"And I say to you, (I)whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Doesn't exactly sound like he's condoning it. Earlier in Matthew, Jesus said that if a man divorces his wife, he forces HER to commit adultery, but from these passages, it is clear that Jesus's teaching is that both the husband and wife are sinning in a state of divorce.

2006-08-14 02:15:58 · answer #6 · answered by Robin J. Sky 4 · 0 0

I do think Paul disliked women and felt threatened by them. Was he a liar? maybe he 'believed' he was repeating what Jesus said but I doubt that. Jesus loved. Pure and simple. Jesus would not want a woman being abused to stay with her abuser and just take it.

2006-08-14 02:14:03 · answer #7 · answered by a_delphic_oracle 6 · 0 0

Jesus said that? As for Paul, he did a lot of good for the church but i don't agree with a lot of what he said. Where exactly did Jesus say this?

2006-08-14 02:09:57 · answer #8 · answered by Zvisineyi 2 · 0 0

In teh Catholic Bible, Matthew 19: 9 reads " I say to you, whoever divorces his spouse (except the marriage is unlawful) and marries yet another commits adultery." at present until eventually now this assertion, Jesus mentioned "by way of hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your better halves, yet from the beginning up it grow to be no longer so. " Jesus is obviously coaching that interior the beginning up, there grow to be no reason at enthusiastic approximately divorce. An unlawful marriage is a marriage between close kin. those circumstances are given in Deuteronomy. enable's look at what Jesus says in the different Gospels: " He mentioned to them, "Whoever divorces his spouse and marries yet another commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries yet another, she commits adultery." Mark 11: 11-12 "absolutely everyone who divorces his spouse and marries yet another commits adultery, and the single that marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery." Luke sixteen: 18 In neither Mark or Luke does Jesus provide an exception. The mistranslation via maximum Protestant Bibles of "different than for infidelity" isn't supported via different factors of the Bible.

2016-12-11 08:25:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Paul never said that was Jesus' commanded, he said that God gave him permission to add HIS (Paul's) thoughts on the matter (so to speak)
you need to read a bit more closely.

2006-08-14 02:05:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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