A true atheist will argue that an answer to a prayer would have occurred without the prayer because they have a self-centered mind. If they dare to acknowledge there might be a God who created everything, then they might have to give Him some devotion. They don't want to admit there might be a power larger than themselves or someone to whom they might owe a debt of gratitude.
I have seen prayers answered that defy the laws of physics. They had to be the act of a supernatural being. But an atheist who insists on physical evidence will contend it was an anomaly, a mere coincidence. They insist you show physical proof of God's existence but deny its proof when it is supplied.
They can't accept what they don't understand or don't want to understand. Proof of God's existence might require some form of allegiance and that would be too demanding.
Christians according to them rely on blind faith, a foolish concept in their minds. They have the right to their own opinion only because God allows them to choose for themselves.
When the events predicted in Revelations begin happening, there will be a lot fewer atheists then now. But that would be the physical proof they have been waiting for. I just hope their minds are open enough to accept what their eyes are seeing.
2006-08-06 09:53:12
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answer #1
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answered by mindbender - seeker of truth 5
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Wow are you presumptuous and holier-than thou...
Since you have a God-given power to read my mind, I guess you should already know these things but:
Admitting that you can't be 100% sure about God is something - rare among theists - called intellectual honesty. You cannot be 100% sure that there is a god either, so the subjest is moot.
I'm interested in the reverse logic. Is that like pointing out minute gaps in our understanding of evolution with the logic that that will make the whole compendium of evolutionary logic fall and Biblical creationism just immediately take its place as the only alternative?
'Reality is perception and nothing more' seems like a theistic argument to me. I've never made it. We seek reality in all of its forms - instead of trying to quash the search for reality.
Something can't come from nothing - okay, fine then. Then either there is no God, or God came from something. What then? Hey, this is your argument. I don't care where your God comes from, but you're denying His right to exist. Interesting.
There is nothing, believe me _nothing_ that an atheist 'doesn't want you to know'. Again, it is not us who are in the business of hiding the truth from people. It's not us trying to take science education out of schools. You're free to e-mail me if you want to 'break my logic into pieces'. I'll be happy to hear it.
2006-08-06 09:40:29
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answer #2
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answered by XYZ 7
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I'm an athiest, purely because I believe that we DID evolve from other things. I will admit, however, that I cannot explain where we come from, nor would I ever try to. But, I will ask you, where do you think God came from? What could have created Him? I don't believe that I came out of nothing. I believe that I was created by my parents, who were created by their parents. But I also think that LONG long ago, somehow, the world started. I could go into a speech of all that we learned in Science this year, but I didn't pay attention. I just personally don't believe in God. Not in the traditional sense, anyway. The whole Athiest to Ant thing is rather judgemental and stupid, too. I realize that some Athiests do go around bashing other people for believing things they do and being completely unfair, but if you're going to do the same to them, it's just as unfair. I have no problem with your beliefs, as long as you accept ours, as well.
2006-08-06 09:43:12
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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"Aheist know they cant be100% sure that God is not real and for that matter even right in front of their face."
I already explained this to you in one of your other questions.
"Something cant come of nothing, to have a product you must have a producer."
If that's true than who produced god? And who produced the producer that produced god? See, this is where your argument completely falls apart.
2006-08-06 09:58:33
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answered by Anonymous
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"Something cant come of nothing, to have a product you must have a producer."
You prove the atheist's point!
God couldn't come out of nothing, to have a god (a product, something that exists) you must have a god producer (something that produced/created the god, the god could not have created itself!) Thus at some point, something (the god, or the god producer or the universe) HAD TO BE created out of nothing! There is no more reason to believe the god was created out of nothing than to believe the universe was created out of nothing.
Or you could assume something simply always did exist (whether it is the god, the god producer or the universe). There is no more logical reason to believe the god always existed than to believe the universe always existed.
So Mr. Perfect & Divine Logic & Reason, how do you squirm and wiggle around that? I guess your real name should be Mr. I Am Not Used To Using My Brain Because It Hurts So Much!
The reason atheists don't believe in god, at least in my case, is because there is ZERO evidence of its existence! I am more open to the existence of the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, UFOs, etc than God, as there is more evidence of such things that can't be easily dismissed.
"They love to use pointless philosophical mumbo-jumbo that goes in circles(circular logic)"
Jeez, are you talking about Christians (or theists) or Atheists??
Christians have one body of evidence to support their beliefs (aka the Bible). There is no proof that anything in the bible is true (but there are mountains of evidence showing that most of the bible is false). The only reasons Christians believe the Bible is true is because they believe it is the word of their God. However, they have no proof that it is the word of their God. The only proof they have is the Bible itself, which claims to be the word of God!
So, how do we know God exists? Because the Bible tells me so! So, how do we know the Bible is true? Because it is the word of God! So, how do we know it's the word of God? Because the Bible tells me so! That, Mr. I Can't Think is circular (and broken, and just plain horrible) logic.
2006-08-06 09:48:45
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answered by Anonymous
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"Something cant come of nothing, to have a product you must have a producer."
This is a very poor argument. If "something" always has to have an originating "something" then you fall into a paradox ... as you will always require "something" prior to the something that you claim produced "something".
Either something has always existed (no need for a creator), or something can come from nothing.
And no, I don't want to email you ... why would I want to talk with someone who has decided the answer before asking the question ... and based on ignorance rather than reason.
2006-08-06 09:51:36
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answer #6
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answered by Arkangyle 4
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What serves you as a substitute for logic and reason is a logical fallacy (a flaw in thinking) known as the "Argument From Incredulity"... which is a sub-category of the "Argument ad Ignorantiam" (Argument From Ignorance). It goes something like this: "I can't conceive of how this might have come to be; therefore, God did it."
That does not represent a limitation of nature... it represents a limitation of knowledge or intellect. Additionally, it is intellectually dishonest... it does not ACKNOWLEDGE the limitation of knowledge or intellect... it appeals to a fanciful, imaginary, supernatural entity to create the ILLUSION that your cognitive dissonance has been resolved. It substitutes 'faith' for fact, and 'belief' for knowledge. Neither faith nor belief are sufficient to sustain reason... they are only sufficient to sustain willful ignorance.
That is the epitome of self-delusion.
2006-08-06 09:38:46
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answer #7
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe this is called yahoo answers, what is your question? So sick of people using yahoo answers to make statements about their own personal beliefs. Do you want an answer? My answer is if you are a true believer in your own religon why sould other peoples beliefs bother you. I am an atheist and I have no problem with people who have other beliefs. Except for people who think it their right to tell other people what they should believe! Logic has nothing to do with belief. I would never attempt to try and convert anyone to atheism it is my personal choice. I wonder what you believe in.
2006-08-06 09:43:23
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answer #8
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answered by sarkyastic31 4
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No, Atheism isn't a faith, in certainty that's the ABSENCE of concept in a god or faith. a lot of human beings already do no longer believe in god, and likely, they do sleep soundly at night. i think of you have spoke back your man or woman question and amused your self particularly properly. stable success alongside with your soccer team!
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answered by ? 4
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i'm sorry what was the question or are you just ranting and going on a tirade. you know thats against the rules. and just because there's a producer doesnt mean its God.
2006-08-06 09:39:16
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answer #10
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answered by Jake S 5
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