Vegans not Vegitarians?

Question

Well the truth is that there are NO. I repeat NO "REAL" vegans. Anybody that says that they are, are full of crap. How do I know you may ask? Because the human body MUST have vitamin B-12. Or they WILL DIE! Here's the funny part, vitamin B-12 is ONLY found in animals and animal byproducts i.e. cheese, milk etc... So anybody that says they are vegan would be DEAD in a little under a year. There is no disputing scientific facts, sorry.

Oh, and p.s. if you are "vegan" and you take a multi-vitamin with B-12, it came from an ANIMAL!!!!!

So here's the question: Why do you keep telling people you are a "vegan" if it is scientifically impossible to live if you are?

Answer 1

it makes them feel superior

Answer 2

Get your facts straight! (I am vegan because my body will not tolerate animal products -- why so much hatred? You need to look at your own shadow, that's just wrong)

Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria, fungi, and algae. Neither plants nor animals can synthesize the vitamin. Thus, it is not found in plant products naturally (there might be trace amounts in plant foods contaminated with B12-producing microorganisms, but we should not depend on contaminated food). Animal foods are reliable sources of B12 because large amounts of bacteria live inside animals, and vitamin B12 remains in flesh, milk, and eggs.

We vegans need to get B12 from supplements and/or fortified foods. The B12 added to foods and supplements are synthetically produced in a laboratory from bacteria, not animal sources. Here are some other foods that typically are B12-fortified. Make sure you read the food label! B12 is also called cobalamin.
Red Star Vegetarian Support Formula Nutritional Yeast*
Fortified breakfast cereals
Fortified soy milk
Fortified vegetarian meat analogs
Fortified energy or snack bars, such as Luna Bars
Fortified soy powders or other beverage mixes
*Nutritional yeast adds a cheesy flavor to foods; my favorite way to use it is in tofu scrambles.

By the way, the lack of vitamin B12 in plant foods has led many to question how "natural" a vegan diet is. After all, if an essential nutrient is lacking from a 100% plant-based diet, how can such a diet be good for you? This is a very good question. Remember, B12 is produced only by microorganisms. Consider the sanitary modern world: only in the last several decades have we had the luxury of treated water, power-washed produce, and machine-sanitized packaged foods. Before these conveniences, people (vegans and non-vegans) ate locally-grown fruits and vegetables and drank water from the well or public water supply, all of which were rich in vitamin B12 due to bacterial contamination. In those times, vitamin B12-producing microorganisms contaminated the entire food supply, not just animal products. The need of a modern-day vegan to supplement the diet with B12 is not because the vegan diet is inferior to a diet with animal products; it is the result of modern sanitary conditions.

Answer 3

Oh for chrissake leave us alone. We are doing our best to reduce animal suffering in an imperfect world. B 12 must be able to be made synthetically or else it wouldn't be sold as vegan. No, we can't be completely vegan ever because rubber tires use animal fat and there is pig gut glue to hold my envelopes shut. Dead animal parts are used all over the place. We can never be vegan because some wise *** is going to slip us chicken broth in our stuff at a restaurant. Vegan is not an absolute, it's an ongoing effort.

Answer 4

I know someone who is Vegan. I know that if you try as hard as you can to be something you should have a right to call yourself that title, such as Vegan.
Even if a B-12 vitamin comes from an animal, it doesn't make it a non-vegaon vitamin. It is kind of indirect, you know?
Plus, I think you can get B-12 from other things. I get mine from pasta. Maybe you should do a little more research on that. (No, I'm not a vegan)
And I have had fruit drinks with B-12 in them (Fuse).
If you are going to accuse and start calling names, you better be able to back it up.

Answer 5

No, it is not possible to be a COMPLETE vegan, but B12 IS found in non-animal sources:

" ...some vegetarian B-12-fortified yeasts and analogs are available. Also, plant algae containing B-12 is now in supplement form (spirulina). Some nutritionists caution that fortified foods or supplements are essential."

"Very low B12 intakes can cause anaemia and nervous system damage.

The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some plant milks, some soy products and some breakfast cereals) and B12 supplements. Vitamin B12, whether in supplements, fortified foods, or animal products, comes from micro-organisms." http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/nutrition/b12/

This product is available from a site selling only vegan products, made by a company who make only vegan products: http://www.veganstore.com/index-store.html?deptid=21236&parentid=92&stocknumber=644&page=4&itemsperpage=12

Answer 6

Some of what Tasa says is true. There was a community in India who were completely vegan, and reasonably healthy. Yet when they moved to this country they began to fall ill. This was because they used to get B12 from all the microscopic organisms and tiny insects on the plants they ate. In our country, in contrast, our food is very well washed and we use pesticides to get rid of those things.

Yet, we are still designed to get most of our vitamin B12 from meat, eggs or dairy produce, it isn't safe to rely on microbes on plants.

To Sleeping Beauty, who claimed she got her B12 from pasta; although there are vitamin B12 types in some plants, they are in a form which is not bioalvailable. In layman's terms, that means it cannot be used by our bodies. If that's your only source you could become very ill very soon.

Well, I remember once reading an article which claimed a very small amount could be got from plants, but only for certain races. Northern Europeans, for instance, couldn't as our diet was so full of meat we didn't need to be able to, and lost the ability. However, it still said that it could never be used as a main source.

Answer 7

Not only am I a vegan but I own a health food store that sells products like Spirulina, an algae high in B12. Yes, vegans can get their B12 outside of the animal kingdom.

Answer 8

This is incorrect. While B-12 is naturally found in meat, eggs, and dairy products, the only known vegan sources of substantial B12, aside from multivitamin supplements and fortified foods (which you established Vegans do not take), are the Chinese herb Dang Gui (Angelica sinensis), used for centuries for treating anemia, and certain brands of nutritional yeast.

Answer 9

What is vegetarian. A person who's survives on not killing animals.Now you may argue that killing plants is also not Non vegetarian. GOD has made the world such that one has to depend on somebody's else life for survival. There is a difference between killing an animal and killing a plant for your food.
When u kill an animal he suffers more pain than if you kill a plant. So the simple logic is to survive on a person who suffers more pain. Why do not you kill a human body for your survival? Your are killing animals only because they are inferior to you.
I think killing animals and eating them out is a big crime.

Now the question of B12. I think you have itself mentioned that B12 is available from animal products that is milk.Then why to kill an animal for that.Eat his milk.

This is the ultimate truth of Hindu Religion

Answer 10

Why do YOU keep bashing others for their choices? Are you that bored? Who else do you hate?

Does not sound to me like your ignorance is bliss at all.

By the way, as stated, B-12 can be found in other things and MANY vegan foods have B-12 added.

Answer 11

b-12 vitamins are processed so it technically is not from a living entity or was after all that processing procedure. I DO know of one individual who was a bonafied vegan. very cute and pretty but do to her not eating anything "animal" related, she had a bald spot in her head as a result. true die hard I tell you. they do exist. kind of like boogeyman.