Is there a jew out that can list the jewish objections to the whole jesus myth?

Question

Ok. Jew. SEriously dudes! Im ok w? Jews. Is it true that they believe in religious tolerance, eg? You know we former and esp. current xians do not get much info re Jewish beliefs beyond the OT.
What about those ultraorthodox guys in Israel that throw rocks at Jewish girls for wearing bikinis?

Answer 1

Jews do not believe that Jesus was the moshiach. Assuming that he existed, and assuming that the Christian scriptures are accurate in describing him (both matters that are debatable), he simply did not fulfill the mission of the moshiach. Jesus did not do any of the things that the scriptures said the messiah would do.

On the contrary, another Jew born about a century later came far closer to fulfilling the messianic ideal than Jesus did. His name was Shimeon ben Kosiba, known as Bar Kochba (son of a star), and he was a charismatic, brilliant, but brutal warlord. Rabbi Akiba, one of the greatest scholars in Jewish history, believed that Bar Kochba was the moshiach. Bar Kochba fought a war against the Roman Empire, catching the Tenth Legion by surprise and retaking Jerusalem. He resumed sacrifices at the site of the Temple and made plans to rebuild the Temple. He established a provisional government and began to issue coins in its name. This is what the Jewish people were looking for in a moshiach; Jesus clearly does not fit into this mold. Ultimately, however, the Roman Empire crushed his revolt and killed Bar Kochba. After his death, all acknowledged that he was not the moshiach.

Throughout Jewish history, there have been many people who have claimed to be the moshiach, or whose followers have claimed that they were the moshiach: Shimeon Bar Kochba, Shabbatai Tzvi, Jesus, and many others too numerous to name. Leo Rosten reports some very entertaining accounts under the heading False Messiahs in his book, The Joys of Yiddish. But all of these people died without fulfilling the mission of the moshiach; therefore, none of them were the moshiach. The moshiach and the Olam Ha-Ba lie in the future, not in the past.

Biblical Passages Referring to the Moshiach
The following passages in the Jewish scriptures are the ones that Jews consider to be messianic in nature or relating to the end of days. These are the ones that we rely upon in developing our messianic concept:

Isaiah 2, 11, 42; 59:20
Jeremiah 23, 30, 33; 48:47; 49:39
Ezekiel 38:16
Hosea 3:4-3:5
Micah 4
Zephaniah 3:9
Zechariah 14:9
Daniel 10:14
If you want to know how Jews interpret the passages that Christians consider to be messianic, see the Jews for Judaism website, especially the Knowledge Base under Resources. The Knowledge Base addresses more than 130 of the most common arguments that evangelists make to Jews.

Answer 2

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word "Mashiach", which means "Anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, I Kings 1:39, II Kings 9:3)

Since every King and High Priest was anointed with oil, each may be referred to as "an anointed one" (a Mashiach or a Messiah). For example: "God forbid that I [David] should stretch out my hand against the Lord's Messiah [Saul]..." (I Samuel 26:11. Cf. II Samuel 23:1, Isaiah 45:1, Psalms 20:6)

Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Isaiah 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Many of these prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5)

Since every King is a Messiah, by convention, we refer to this future anointed king as The Messiah. The above is the only description in the Bible of a Davidic descendant who is to come in the future. We will recognize the Messiah by seeing who the King of Israel is at the time of complete universal perfection.

Answer 3

yes
There in fact are MILLIONS of Jews (with a capital "J") out who can list the Jewish objections to the whole Jesus myth. The primary objections would be that there is no real historical evidence that Jesus ever existed; that even if he did the things that the New Testament credits him with doing they still don't fulfill the criteria of the Messiah as established in the Book of Isiah and moreover Christianity advocates a religious intolerance that Judaism detests.

Answer 4

I belong to a CULT that is an offshoot!



EVIDENCE THAT THE EARLIEST CHURCH IN EXISTANCE WAS JEWISH


One of the strongest evidences for this is the presence of many artifacts, clay pots, and lamps, which are engraved with what has come to be called the SEAL OF THE MESSIANIC CHURCH.

The seal has been copyrighted as " Seven Branched Candelabra/Star of David/Fish"

A book entitled "The Messianic Seal of the Jerusalem Church" by Reuven Efraim Schmalz and Raymond Robert Fischer has been published (Olim Publications, P.O. Box 2111,Tiberias, Israel.

Top of Seal see the Seven Branch Candelabra that stood before God in the Temple.

Below that, see the Star of David, which is from the 7th century BC. It is composed of two interlaced, equilateral triangles or DALTHA (D for David). "A star shall come forth from Jacob, and a scepter shall rise from Israel" Numbers 24:17.

Below the star is a fish which is an early Christian symbol in Israel. It was transported to Rome, and by 150 AD. Clement of Alexandria suggested to all his readers that they include the sign of a fish in their personal seals to identify them as Christians. Later the Greek spelling for the word fish ICHTHUS was incorporated. The first five letters of the words that spell "Jesus, Christ, God, Son, and Saviour."

In the Messianic Seal, the cross appears as the Hebrew letter TAW.

The artifacts were discovered in 1990 by Tech Oteeoos, a 90 year old Greek Orthodox monk, in the vicinity of the, what is believed to be, the original Church founded and pastored by James the Just, the half-brother of Jesus. When the actual grotto was excavated by Oteeoos, numerous inscriptions were found on the walls. The period of its use on Mount Zion could only have been from the crucifixion in 30 AD to 135AD.

Answer 5

Read Psalm 22 (not 23) from your Jewish bible. I think a description of Jesus is mentioned. Also Isaiah 53. Jesus came to earth to fulfill the Jewish scriptures.

Answer 6

I am not Jewish, but basically I think Jews believe Jesus was a good man, but not the son of God. But it would be better if a Jewish person gave their explanation, because they know the whole history of Judaism much better than I do.

Answer 7

I'm not Jewish, however these websites explain the Jewish objection to the Jesus-as-Messiah meme.
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/jews-jesus/jews-jesus-index.html
http://ohr.edu/ask/ask00j.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/my/tgoldman0/prophet.htm

Answer 8

What's the point of stirring up animosity? Why can't we look for points of concordance instead. That would be a far more interesting conversation. There are enough groups around who draw lines in the sand and stand there saying 'Oh yeah?' at each other. Let's be the first to draw circles in the sand and say, "Hey, that's really neat. We both fit in the same circle!"

Answer 9

Perhaps.

However the jewish objections to christ insanity are not sincere. They created it and promoted it only to their enemies. It is the perfect religion for one's enemies to have and that was why it was created. It softens us up for destruction. We are now commiting racial suicide with not much time left. It is all because of christ insanity and the destructive suicidal teachings. Luckily most of our people do not actually know that much about christ insanity & thus follow little of it. However it is potent poison and the stuff they do adhere to is very destructive for us. For the Jews it is "an eye for an eye" and in battle "leave nothing that breaths, slaughter even the sucklings on the breast and burn the crops" and they are taught to plan for the future. Yet for us it is "turn the other cheek" - "give to all that ask" -"love your enemies" and we are told not to concern ourselves with "the morrow" but let the jew spook in the sky take care of things. Most all other jew propaganda aimed at our people from multi-racial crap to the equality mythos is based on the foundation of christ insanity. We are supposed to be all god's children with the jews being his favorite. The jews use christ insanity to rally and unite their masses while it weakens us for them. Sure they attack christ insanity often via law suits but that is just to keep it strong and keep the dollars flowing to their puppet christ insanity preachers. Christ insanity is a perverted religion that thrives on persecution. It is a death based religion for cowardly fools that can not face the real world and life itself. It perverts us from our natural healthy protective ways in order to destroy us or ensure we do it ourselves. It teaches us concern for our enemies and everyone but ourselves. It encourages us to subsidize the non-White population explosion while we have been commiting racial suicide (less births than deaths) since 1965.

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At ANY cost!!

Rahowa

Answer 10

I'm a Christian, so I believe Jesus was indeed the messiah. However, if you want to hear Jewish objections this is a good site: http://www.jewsforjudaism.org I believe http://www.askmoses.com also has some information that you'd be interested in.