Why do atheists do this sometimes?

Question

I've noticed a lot of answers where atheists say they do not want Christians to preach to them because it annoys them. So why do a lot of atheists post questions here that try to "shake the faith" of other people? Isn't that promoting an agenda or "preaching"? Isn't that sort of patronizing to Christians too? It's hypocrisy to go, "I'm right, you're wrong, and I can constantly tell you how stupid you are," but get angry when Christians preach (which is part of their religion). And many times, the persons posting the question are attacking beliefs that people don't even have.

Thankyou for all of your viewpoints!

Read the questions I've seen, they will actually tell you they hope your faith is shaken, but it isn't. It doesn't hurt my feelings, I'm just wondering why people complain about preaching. It doesn't bother me much when people present what they believe because I do it too. It's just that people do it in a certain manner.

By the way, I can't just stop preaching. That's like every athiest believing in God. It doesn't work. Preaching is part of my religion.

Answer 1

I'm sorry it comes out like that for you. I have repeatedly said I don't want people to pray for me. But I don't object to believers posting their opinions, just as I post mine. I think it's not the same. We all can say what we think. But neither of us should be imposing their views on each other, or directly acting on each other. Praying for an atheist compares to an atheist not letting a believer go to church.

On the other hand, I do think I'm right and believers are wrong (and they think the opposite, too). That's okay. But I don't claim you're stupid for whatever idea or belief you have. Again, it's not the same. Wrong is not stupid.

And you cannot either blame us for trying to shake your faith. I think religions are the worst institutions that have ever existed on the earth. I have the right, as an earthling to combat them. And my best way to do it is by trying to take some of its followers away. You cannot blame me, because I don't force anyone to do anything. If my arguments are convincing, it's not my fault. It must mean I must be right somewhere there.

Answer 2

Personally I don't mind you preaching here, as it is open forum and I believe you should say whatever you want. It is utterly pointless, but I don't mind it. I can respect that it is part of your religion to do that. The thing is a lot of it sounds silly and it does get old. So many of you people sound like a broken record. We've all read at least one bible (I have read 3 as well as the Koran and several other holy books). They don't prove anything. Nor does an emotional inflamatory remark.

If your goal is geniune and you actually want to bring people back to god (not just feel high and mighty about yourself) you will not preach. You will listen and think and make an informed intelligent comment that will make the non-believer stop and think and respect your mind. If you could convey that your faith is geniune and your heart is good it would at least fly in the face of the notion that you are all fakes and/or dillusional. No it does not prove God. I don't see how anything posted here can prove or disprove the existence of god. I do see a lot of christians making themselves look bad and sound stupid and I've no reason not to write you all off as not very well thought-out in your belief system. I understand why you think you believe in god and your "faith" does not impress me. If you believe in something true, a thought provoking question from an atheist will not threaten you. You would answer it and probably make a good point doing so.

Answer 3

Concerning the debate going on about intelligent design and evolution: is it possible that the final answer about which of these two seemingly opposite ideas is correct could simply be yes?

With one position firmly held by the believers and the other just as fearlessly defended by the non-believers, if you happen to be in a position somewhere near the middle, it does not look all that complex. From this position, you wonder why either-or has to be the answer.

If you believe that some higher being created the universe by intelligent design, what more elegant and intelligent design could there have been than a self-regulating system that continually checks its own errors and makes its own corrections in mid-stream as an integral part of the process.

This all seems quite logical to me although it probably won’t satisfy the believers because they are afraid to see any truth other than the one they have been told to believe in. Inversely it certainly won’t satisfy the non-believers because it leaves them stuck with a god that they are so obviously terrified of.

To sum up this view from the center, it might be most easily be explained by saying perhaps the designer was intelligent. Problem is, the designer was likely so intelligent that those seeking to prove that it is intelligently designed may be incapable of ever understand it well enough to see it for the elegant self regulating design that it has always been.

The nonbelievers will be similarly handicapped due to the internal terror the have about the idea that there may be a God. Neither side being able to leave their entrenched position for fear they may have to admit they were wrong. While the rest of us stand by trying to figure out what all the fuss is about. Personally I don’t think anyone is wrong, I just feel both sides are about half right

Answer 4

To begin with: You've made an assumption and provided no evidence to back it up. How do you know that they're "trying to shake the faith" of believers?

To go on with: This is a place for asking questions. You have no right to imply that some questions from some people are off-limits. It doesn't work that way.

Finally: If you feel attacked, then don't just sit there -- fight back! Defend your beliefs. Be a better debater than the other guy. Make persuasive arguments. Convince him/her of the rightness of your position. Don't whine about hurt feelings.

Answer 5

What they probably mean (and I agree) is that it's not right for Christians (and Muslims and any other kind of believer) to push their beliefs where they don't belong. You will never, ever see an atheist in a train-spotting group, or on a country ramble, or at work, announce out of the blue that there are no gods - It just doesn't happen. Religious folks often just start preaching unprompted, where it's not appropriate and not wanted.

Of course it's absolutely fine to come to a discussion group for religious issues and bring up a discussion about atheism *or* religion - That's what it's here for.

Answer 6

Well, I think it's fun to read some of the moronic responses I get to some of my questions from the believers. I also mainly direct it at Christians because they are 80-90% of the believers on here so I'm more likely to get responses directing it their way. I don't complain about others preaching. But "I'm right, you're wrong and I CAN constantly tell you how stupid you are."

Answer 7

I can't speak for anyone else, but I routinely request people not post bible verses. I've read the bible more than once, and the bible is subject to interpretation, so I would rather they just tell me rather than cut & paste bible passages that are meaningless.

And, my questions and answers are based on the truth as I know it. If the truth "shakes a person's faith," they might want to reconsider the basis for that faith.

Given the fact there are tens of thousands of unique Christian cults, it would be impossible to direct a question or answer at a specific cult or individual belief.

It is quite obvious Christians have no established doctrine, which, in itself, gives rise to the question of how anyone can claim to be following the "word of God" when no one agrees on what it means.

Answer 8

I said it before and must say it again: I post here and elsewhere to debunk the three lies that religious people continue to repeat.

1. "Only are moral."

Being part of a religion makes one moral? Bu**sh**. If being christian makes someone moral, then explain the KKK and Nazi Germany. If being jewish makes one moral, then explain Israeli terrorism. If being a muslim makes one moral, then explain the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.

Don't respond with another lie: "But they aren't christians/jews/muslims!" If someone calls himself a christian/jew/muslim, he is, no matter what you say. You will never hear an atheist say "Stalin wasn't a true atheist!"

2. "My religion has a right to teach others."

Oh yeah? If the religious can spew their bile, then I can display fresh facts. Only a hypocrite - or specifically, a hypochristian - doesn't want all people and views to have the same right.

3. "My religion is original, sent down from 'god'/'allah'/'zoroaster'/'Bob the Angry Flower'!"

There is no such thing as an "original religion" in the last 2000 years except for $cientology, and that cult is nothing but a load of crap. All religions are nothing but regurgitations and retellings of previously existing religions, and I've got the evidence to back it up.

The notion that one particular religion is somehow "special" or "true" is a laughable concept. There's nothing new under the "son".


Anyone who has a problem with me or others exposing lies probably is one of the liars.

Answer 9

We live in a country where millions of people with diseases such as Parkinson's Disease suffer every single day. We could see cures for disorders like Parkinson's if only we had government funded access to the right type of research. Sadly, scientific research into the reduction of this type of suffering has been crippled. Why? Pressure from the faith-community.

Christianity is responsible for suffering. End of story. Now, what kind of person would I be if I sat idly by and let this happen?

Answer 10

Atheism may be intellectually based on not believing in God, but it is far more emotionally based upon denying Christianity. You do not see atheists arguing against any of the other 700 or so world religions that are also opposed to atheism, just Christianity. It is as the Bible says, they are offended by the truth. Your question makes the point in excellence. Downing Christianity is the atheist's evangelism.

Daniel
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