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What do you make of the rivalry between Paul and Peter? Do you think God was displeased by their public disagreements? Or do you think it was allowed to let the Christian faith work it out?

2006-07-04 15:33:34 · 21 answers · asked by cirque de lune 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

what are you people talking about? the NT is full of references to those two being critical of each other.

2006-07-04 15:40:41 · update #1

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Peter and Paul had some vary obvious disagreements, but it is not too hard to see both sides of the dispute.

Peter had worked along side of Jesus thought the 3.5 years of the ministry together. Peter was Torah-observant and while he may have understood in one sense that the gospel was to be preached to the entire world, from his viewpoint, that meant that converts would need to be Torah-observant. His dream later showed him that indeed the Gentiles were to be allowed in to the church and that for them, the old laws were non-applicable. Paul comes in rather late in the game, a known persecutor of Christians and suddenly he is not only converted, but seems to be re-writing all the old beliefs. No wonder they had their moments!!

The NT depicts only a small vignette of what it must have been like for people and families transitioning out of Judaism into Christianity. It must have been difficult for a lot of people, and it is very hard to let go of old beliefs and practices.

So, it is not surprising that there were disagreements, as this was a time of transition and turbulence -- what is important is how the disputes were resolved.

2006-07-04 18:07:27 · answer #1 · answered by Ponderingwisdom 4 · 5 5

I'm not a biblical scholar but I don't remember any rivalry between Peter and Paul. Peter was corrected by Paul but that was just to bring him back to the original values. I doubt he would be displeased in the disagreements but rather in the one who fell. It was allowed for the church to work it out and strengthen the faith.

2006-07-04 22:41:27 · answer #2 · answered by neongenesis05 2 · 0 0

Paul was an imposter who never knew Jesus.

He turned what Jesus taught upsidedown and created much of what passes for christianity these days.

He pretended to be an apostle but he was not. The idea that Peter later saw his error and agreed with Paul is a fiction created by Paul himself to cover up the truth that he hijacked the christian faith and turned it around backwards.

The judgmental God he and his associates invented does not exist, it never did.

2006-07-04 22:48:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

For good reason Peter --and the other Apostles and disciples-- had certain issues with Saul/Paul who somehow managed to "join and infiltrate" their ranks after claiming that he had a "vision" which could not be readily confirmed by his two companions on the way to Damascus.

Let's face it, Peter or the other Apostles would be NO MATCH to Saul/Paul who was quite an erudite scholar, who claimed to have been tutored by Gamaliel, the high priest of the Pharisees, and knew all the old Jewish traditions; and he could speak Hebrew, Roman [Latin], and Greek, the lingua franca or common language among many nations, traders and merchants at that time...

Peter, Andrew, the Zebedee brothers were mere fishermen; Matthew [Levi] was a tax collector; and others were former publicans or pagans. The brothers of Yeshua Messiah, James and John [Mark] were sons of a carpenter... I doubt if any of them had the necessary skills or learned enough to debate with Saul/Paul when it came to basic rhetoric.

And Saul's/Paul's secretary or scribe was Luke, a physician, who wrote his own Gospel and all of Paul's Epistles ["Pauline doctrines"] to the various churches at that time...

The compilers of the Bible --the Roman Catholic Church-- PREFERRED such writings [PAULINE DOCTRINES] to be included in the New Testament portion RATHER THAN those written by the ORIGINAL APOSTLES and DISCIPLES who witnessed the public Ministry of Yeshua Messiah, since it fitted more with the agenda of the RCC at the time...

However, inspite of following mostly the Pauline doctrines, the RCC maintained to have Peter as its "first Pope" or "Bishop of Rome" --even though Peter NEVER SET FOOT IN ROME [since it was in fact Paul who stayed and rented a house in Rome]-- because Paul NEVER WITNESSED or exchanged dialogues with Yeshua Messiah [Jesus Christ] as the actual Apostles did... It's really quite messed up, lemme tellya!

But also REMEMBER that we all have been forewarned EARLY ON to "Beware of FALSE PROPHETS and FALSE CHRISTS" within our very midst... by none other than Yeshua Messiah Himself.

Peace be with you!

2006-07-04 23:18:30 · answer #4 · answered by Arf Bee 6 · 0 0

What rivalry are you talking about? Peter didn't trust Paul at first cause Paul persecuted Christians before he became one. God had to tell him that Paul was cool.

2006-07-04 22:37:44 · answer #5 · answered by on my way 4 · 0 0

I think their "rivalry" was an example to those who were to come after of how to handle disagreements over relatively minor things, like the keeping of Jewish dietary and Sabbath "laws". In the end, there was no rivalry.

2006-07-04 22:43:53 · answer #6 · answered by rb42redsuns 6 · 0 0

WE HAVE TO LET THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE US IN THE TRUTH,PAUL AND PETER INSTUCTIONS WERE FROM GOD.
Ro:15:14: And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.
Ro:15:15: Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God,
Ro:15:16: That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
Ro:15:17: I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.
Ro:15:18: For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,
Ro:15:19: Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.
Ro:15:20: Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:
Ro:15:21: But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.

2006-07-04 23:07:34 · answer #7 · answered by flindo61 4 · 0 0

Paul is the "anti-Christ" and the Catholic church is based on his doctrine. Peter's sect (real Christians) was executed and disappeared long ago.



The dispute was over preaching the "gospel" to the Gentiles. Peter did not want the "gospel" preached to Gentiles. Paul ignored him and did it anyway. Paul is the "anti-Christ."

2006-07-04 22:37:41 · answer #8 · answered by Left the building 7 · 0 0

I think the fact that Paul "won out" in his fight with Peter has lead to 2000 years of hypocrisy, suffering and hatred.

I'm sure Paul would be proud, classic overachiever that he was.

2006-07-04 23:15:31 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

When someone is wrong(according to God not own thoughts), a religious authority should stand up.
Gal 2:11

2006-07-04 22:45:26 · answer #10 · answered by robert p 7 · 0 0

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