Is Sexual Pleasure Original?

Question

If nature intended for humans to have sexual pleasure, then...

Why aren't the penis and vagina located on the bottom of our heel?

Why are human females the only ones who have a painful menstrual cycle and delivery?

Why does sex have to produce offspring?

Why are humans the only creatures who have forced abortions?

Why are humans the only creatures who have sex soley for the sake of pleasure?

Why do we need artificial birth control?

Why do animals not have same-sex marriages?

Why are there sexual diseases?

Why do human females keep themselves from having a baby, have sex only for pleasure, terminate an unplanned pregnancy, rather own a little dog and give it the love intended for their child...when a female animal would give it's own life to save that of it's child, never has sex for pleasure, has no time for pets, and devotes it's entire life solely for the sake of being a mother?

Why did Jesus have to be born of a virgin?

Dear, "brianna_the_genius",
There is nothing stranger than how ONE microscopic sperm cell can make it's way thru billions of others, and swim a journey that would be the equivelant of more than ten times around the earth (for us), and then battle some of the most incredibly dangerous obstacles (bent on destroying it), and pierce the shell of another microscopic organism, the "egg", and THEN produce life.
What gave it that intelligence to do that?
Or power?
How does it have that ability?
Where do it's senses come from? It's ability to navigate like that?
It's like 'SUPER SALMON TIMES ONE MILLION'!
If anybody needs a good education, it's you.
Have a nice day :)

Dear, 'fuzznutsoup',
Am i a virgin? Uh, yes and no.
Yes, in God's eyes i am.
No, i am married...to a woman.

How interesting...
In one post, an angry fella says that Muslims are stupid...
then in the very next post, a Muslim makes the most intelligent statement on here.
And it's a female Muslim at that...
AND...a 14 YEAR OLD FEMALE MUSLIM!
You go girl! :)

Robert The Brain said...
"If our sexual organs were on the bottom of our heel, obviously that wouldn't be very conducive to walking."

Well, Robert, since i was referring to evolution of a new body part, then why could it not have been a 3rd leg? One that isn't for walking...?
Forget your thinking cap today?
:P

Your next answer...
5cm? Uh, okay, but that doesn't explain why the woman has pain and animals don't.

How would i rather reproduce?
How was Jesus born?

Your next answer...
You mean animals don't feel or think?
Then what makes elephants walk for miles to honor their dead?

The other animal is a bonobo. And no, they do not do it for pleasure. They do it to feel more secure.
2 species out of thousands...wow, good luck with that.

Animals don't have marriages? So what is it when two doves pair for life? Or two eagles?
If that isn't marriage then i don't know what marriage is.

Your answers are weak, and stink of lackofintelligenceness.
Have a nice day.

Damian,
I Love your answer, but can you please show me which verse says...
"God intended sex to be fun"?
Cuz it's not in my Bible.
Now don't get me wrong, i am not saying sex cannot be fun (in marriage)...but nowhere did God ever say He intended sex...PERIOD!
"Be fruitful and multiply" does not mean "put your thing in her thing".
If it was His original intention then why did Jesus have to be born of a virgin?
Which, your next answer explained.
Adam and Eve had dominion over the Earth. They were already like God, in that they had power over all creation.
God spoke man from the dust.
Adam could have done the same.
All he needed was mustard seed faith ;)
"All things are possible"
It wasn't until Eve partook of the forbidden fruit that she was cursed to give birth in labour.
But it was a good answer.
God bless you.
Email me if you'd like to know more...
truebeliever_777ATyahoo.com

The rest of the answers are pretty pathetic.
I won't waste my time replying to them.
As for you women that got upset at my questions...
...that's probably because they describe you and your lifestyle.
There's a good example of your type in the Bible. She was called JEZEBEL. And God fed her to the dogs.
God help you.

Oh, and by the way, to Mr.Brainiac...who said that women's menstrual cycles aren't painful...you obviously ARE a virgin.
Either that or you know nothing about women.
I've been married since 1982...and i have 2 sisters, 4 daughters and 2 granddaughters...and i think i know something about it.
Good luck with that. ;)

'AJ' The Monkey,
Wow! Your ability to observe is astounding.

Forgive me Robert...i meant to say,
"hypothetical new body part"...not evolution.

'Man.With.A.Plan',
Are you a child?

'Adam T', said...
"You should do some research, and think before asking. Nice try. "

Dear Adam, You should open your eyes and try reading my 'Additional Details' before answering. ;)
How does your foot taste? :)
You also said...
"And a child can't come through a leg it won't fit.".
So how big is the body of a python that can swallow a whole child?
Do you think God couldn't have created us with a leg that could give birth to a baby?
Humans have abortions because they're immoral.
The rest of your answers are pathetic.
Nice try...not.
:)

It amazes me how ignorant, gullible and unobservant most people are.
You come on here and act like you think i'm ignorant...and your gonna teach me something...most of you are absolutely clueless...and then you actualy have the AUDACITY to speak as though you think you're some wise and intelligent sage or professor or something.
Most of you talk like you're nothing but snotty-nose, teenage brats.
Then the most intelligent answer is from a 14 year old Muslim girl.
LOL You guys are really pathetic.
And they wonder why our nation is in such a mess...!? LOL
God help us.
:P

'Man.With.A.Plan'?
Your screename should be, 'HumanistCannonFodder'.
How can a humanist have a plan?
That would be like bees producing honey and then having no use for it.
Your eyes might be open, but trust me, you can't see.

Okay, now here's the REAL stumper...
If animals have sex for pleasure, then how come when a dog or cat is spayed or neutered, they stop having sex...but when people get a vasectomy or hysterectomy, they don't?
Yes, i know it hurts.
Have a nice day. :)

Dear Mr. Sexually Perverted Lion Man,
You said...

"and lions and many other animals will screw around all day because they like sex ,i worked with lions and i know."

LOL...you must have got fired the first day...because anyone knows that animals instinctively mate as often as possible, so their offspring will dominate. This is ESPECIALLY true of animals where is hard and there are a lot of predators.
Your arguements are weak and i can find a hole in every one of them.

You said there is a lot of same-sex going on ina nature. Well, i did not say there wasn't. I said they do not have same sex marriages. Animals are animals. I did not say they had perfect morals or manners. What i said was, is that they do not have sex for pleasure. I proved it and no one, not even your arrogant self, has disproved it.
A male dog or goat or whatever might get on top of a his male adolescent sibling and do a humping motion, but that is not sex. I've seen many times what you are saying.

Your perverted perceptions do not prove your stated claims that animals have sex for pleasure.
You're not dealing with average joe here, so dont think you can fool me.
Rarely do animals experience labour pains. African hoofed animals will plop out a calf on the plains like it was nothing. You should know that Mr.Safari Man.
One of the few animals i've ever seen have pain giving birth are hybrids...like bulldogs and mastiffs. In nature, there is few, if any.
And those "abortions" you witnessed have nothing to do with the females denying their rights as mother just so they can have sex.
Stop changing the topic genius.
Nothing you said about animal's survival instincts proves they have sex for pleasure.
It only proves they have the instincts to survive.
The only "silly talk" is coming from your audacious mouth.
In spite of your amensia, this isn't about birth control, it's about animals not having abortions or using 'the pill', just so they can have sex for pleasure. Women do.

Talk about "nonsense"!? Your pathetic explanation of why we have sexual diseases makes about as much sense as saying that animals abort their young to have sex.
Which i know you did not say, but you're not even following on topic here.
You're trying to sound smart but instead you've only succeded in putting your foot in your mouth.
Hope it's not full of mud ;)
Have a nice day...Genius.
Next?

Notice how the Godless humanists easily get angered and resort to using foul language?
Weak-minded jellyfish.
So sad...all these self-proclaiming experts, and the only intelligent answer is from a 14 year old Muslim girl. I know i said that before, but i am just amazed at the stupidity and ignorance of people today.
The Bible is so right...you're wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked...and don't even know it.
God help you.

Answer 1

most of what you are saying are the signs of judgment day. back then it didn't use to be this way, but because these are signs of judgment day, these things are happening. i hope i answered your question.

Answer 2

Well, would you like to stomp on your sex organs all day? Another thing, our sexual organs were put in the "safest" spot in our bodies so they would get damaged the least. The womb would be located where in the leg? How much room would a baby have to grow in a womans thigh? None, its all muscle. So once again, we're back to our "regular" place for our sex organs. Easy access to space, safety in an out of the way location that is easily protected. There are few (name 2 mammals) animals that have sex organs in their feet. Females have painful menstrual cycles and deliveries because during their cycles they are sloughing off the skin of the inside vaginal and uterine wall, renewing it. The hips become displaced during birth to give the babies head room to come out (OUCH).

Sex doesn't have to produce offspring, use a condom, diaphram or the pill. Humans use forced abortions because they are self aware, they "understand" that their pregnant and what it means and if unhappy with that choose can choose to end it.

Humans are by FAR not the only creatures that have sex for pleasure. Many many other mammals have sex for no other reason than it feels good. (What Discovery Channel and National Geographic please).

Why do animals not have same-sex marriage is a TRICK question. You should instead ask, WHY DO ANIMALS NOT MARRY AT ALL? Every mammalian species has an indication of homosexual acts, some for life, many just until they can find a female mate.

Your asking your question wrong. Your "couching" it so that the question is faulty or that you'll get the answer you want. The fact is, Men as WELL as women love sex, this is a GOD GIVEN gift that can be and usually is abused. Why do we love sex? Simple. Because WE DON'T KNOW when our female are ovulating. Most animals do because they go into heat. However, as intelligent creatures, if you were walking down the street with your mother and father would you really want to see your neighbors rutting on the lawn? I don't think so. So instead, god allowed us to enjoy sex, giving us the ability to have sex whenever we wanted and loving and keeping interested in our wives and husbands all year long, not just a few weeks a year. God bless HIM. I don't think a puppy will make up for great sex for most people, sorry. Puppies aren't addictive.

Why was Jesus born of a Virgin? Because it was Prophesied in the Old Testament.

Answer 3

Give up. Do some research before you ask. Animals have sex to make offspring, that is an evolutionary instinct that helped to keep species from going extinct. The animals that did not do this could not continue the species. The penis on the bottom of the heel would hurt, get smashed, and ripped off. The vagina on the bottom of the heel would allow for twigs/etc. to get in it, and infect it causing death or killing the child. And a child can't come through a leg it won't fit. You don't think other species have sex for pleasure? Ever hear of a dolphin, they have sex for pleasure. We don't need birth control. Humans have abortions because of society. In a agricultural and simple society, the more children, the more crops can be raised, the more productive the family. In American/other modern societies children are a liability. You have kids must raise them and feed them, but they can't work or help the family to sucede. Because of that many don't want them. Sexual diseases evolved as parasites, to make existing easier. Animals don't need to be married, because it does nothing for them or most humans. Jesus was never born. These are the answers, and there are more. You should do some research, and think before asking. Nice try.

Answer 4

It is part of the procreation process,however that doesn't mean it has to be a boring duty.Humans have free will. How many new humans do you think would be born if it wasn't fun?? other animals have an instinct to reproduce at set intervals.Jesus had to be born of a virgin to get noticed otherwise it just have been another birth.If the genitalia were on the soles of our feet,they would get beat up alot and it would make walking difficult.Abortions(natural and forced),diseases etc slow down the human population(controls) Having freewill , we are allowed to know the sacrifice that is sometimes required to accomplish a thing(menstrual cycles/childbirth). Peace.

Answer 5

1. why is that relevant at all? i don't see how things would be any different if they were.
2.well actually with sea-horses males are the ones who give birth. but again how s that relevant?
3.it doesn't, we can use conception, or have anal or oral sex. not to mention homosexuality. also there are some women and men who are infertile/sterile.
4.becuase we are the only ones who are smart enough. there are some creatures who eat their own young.
5. we dont need it for oral or anal or homosexual sex or hand jobs.
6. actually there has been a recorded instance of not only homosexual behavior among animals but homosexual marriage. they were two males penguins who, to replace the instinct of sitting on their eggs, sat on rocks,
7.the same reason there is any kind of disease. viruses and bacteria have to survive somehow.
8.because animals are less of a responsibilty. again some animals would eat their own young.
9. first of all do you have any evidence of this? secondly it is probably very hard to come by a father without original sin. Mary didn't have original sin, according to the catholic religion, her conception was immaculate. so rather then make a whole nother guy without original sin i think god thought he would rather just do the job himself. but if you dont believe that you can always just say "The Lord works in mysterious ways."

Answer 6

Okay, after this guy sent me a couple of emails directing me back to this thread and I read his pathetic and condescending attempts at rebuttals, I had to repost this with a little more zeal. I have left my original responses, which are usually a sentence or two, and continued with my rebuttals in paragraph form, just so you guys know.

If our sexual organs were on the bottom of our heel, obviously that wouldn't be very conducive to walking. Ok retard, where would the safest place for your ding-dong and two veggies be??? On the bottom of your feet, or at the end of some super long appendage so it can get all ****** up when running through the woods, or tucked nicely in between your legs? Idiot...

What do you mean why does sex have to produce offspring? Are you serious? We aren't ******* bacteria... all large animals reproduce through sex, it's nature's way of weeding out the lessers in the species, it's survival of the fittest... Not too many women I know would want to have a baby with a nutcase, a crackhead, or a retard! Yes, it's callous and politically incorrect, but true! You're stupid!

Humans are the only conscious creatures, we are the only creatures who can use our minds to influence our futures, and if we don't feel the need for a baby, the logical choice is an abortion. No you dolt, what I'm saying is obviously NOT that animals don't feel or think, but that humans obviously have the capacity for planning, we understand the concept of a future and that we can influence it to make it what we want! If a ******* giraffe could do the same, and didn't want a baby, it would most certainly have a ******* abortion too!!!!

Dolphins also have sex for pleasure, and there's one more animal that does, I can't remember... Okay great, you named the other one. Congratulations on knowing how to use google. They do it to feel more secure??? Are you ******* retarded??? This is a prime example of your religious views overshadowing good sense. Let's see, hmm.... Either a dolphin will have sex with it's female partner to feel more secure, because it's having feelings of homosexuality because it's ******* friend Fred was staring at him while he was shitting, or he's doing it because it's fun. My vote is on fun. Anyways, since when did you, or anyone have a damn clue about something so complicated as a dolphin's feelings of security??? My 'g'od you're a dumbass!!

We need birth control because sex feels good and we don't always want children. Okay I guess you felt this one was a stupid question to begin with, hence no response to my rebuttal. Good, I'm glad you realize that about at least one of your questions, now if you could just 'see the light' about the rest...

Animals don't have heterosexual marriages either... Okay look. Animals don't get married. That question was just dumb to begin with. However, I know what you mean, so here's the answer. Animals don't have same-sex marriages because every species' purpose in life is simply to procreate. Wild animals don't know they're doing what they're doing, they just know they have to do it. If they're trying to procreate, it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense to go screwing some other dude in the ***, or munching on some other female's split does it??? No, it doesn't. As for homosexual acts between animals, yes, that does happen. There are homosexual acts between some confused animals. Someone mentioned apes, I'm sure they're on the list, but I don't feel like researching that one. I have seen first hand two male house dogs trying to get it on, and they would have been successful if yours truly didn't pull them apart. I lost a lot of respect for that dog that day, but at least he was on top. ;)

Sexual diseases, imo, is a natural population control. Don't ask me to explain any further. Oh! No more rebuttals!!! I win!! I'll tell you what, if you think you can win against me on any debate relating to your religion against my validated scientific facts, bring it on. Post a question, and I'll answer it. I'll spend a bit more time researching your questions and shoot them down one by one. This has been done thousands of times, and with the advent of the internet and search engines, thereby making the needed information infinitely easier to aquire, it can be done thousands more, and with unprecedented ease.

A dog is much simpler and cheaper to take care of than a baby.

Jesus was born of a virgin because it's better than being born of a whore.

Your argument is weak and stinks of religious overzealousness, I feel sorry for you because of your blindness, and I fear that your presence on this forum only adds to your religious fervor.

Answer 7

Humans do not eat their young ,if there is not enough food .
many animals do

and lions and many other animals will screw around all day because they like sex ,i worked with lions and i know.

there is more same sex going on in Nature than with people it is a surprise that not more humans are doing it
mammals ,dogs with dogs ,bitc*es with bit*hes,deer with deer ,cats ,cows ,bulls,goats sheep everybody especially when young has members who have it off with the same sex. insects do it ,all plants try to pollinate anything that takes it.even fish are known to assume the coloring of the female so that it can swim through a cloud of sperm,
and all of this proves that all these animals have sex because of the pleasure ,and not to reproduce

humans are not the only ones who have painful births
and animals do abort if the mother becomes ill,have seen this several times

in dry and hard times in nature animals go as far as not to produce any offspring at all,or they will only have as many as the food supply allows .they may kill and eat their young of they are already born ,
if the times are rich and full of food they will produce many young instead .the best example of this is the African wild dogs
so don't give any silly talk about animals not practicing birth control

we need birth control because we are not as sophisticated as animals to regulate our young to the economic situations

Primative tribes have always kept their numbers down so that they would be able to handle the food supplies ,with out contraceptives ,but rather by disaplined customs.

and who wants to walk on their ***** ,maybe you do?????

or play with a puzie full of mud

In Nature every one is welcome but nothing is allowed to be in excess,This is the law of equilibrium the seccond Law of Nature

a field of Maize ,in Natures eyes is a plague of maize ,and Nature responds with policing agents ,such as preditors or diseases,

that is why we have sexual diseases,to keep down the numbers of those who tend to go out of control.

So all in all your question was a collection of nonsense
what beats me is why i bothered to answer it

the only valid question is if Mary was really a Virgin
and stop changing questions after the fact

Answer 8

They would get a nail or sticker in them, crush them, and they would be dirty.
Wrong.
It does not.
They are not.
Wrong again.
Pleasure without consequence.
They do, at least homo-type pairings.
Someone stuck his schlong in a sheep, and some woman took in a donkey kong.
That's what nature let happen
Was he?

Above all, we as humans are more capable of creating our own destiny because of the viability of our brain, and choose pleasure over pain. But, my dogs do this also. Pleasure feels good, whereas pain hurts. Bottom line.

Answer 9

Many of your questions answers can be found in the curse that fell on Adam and Eve after sin. She was cursed to have menstrual cycle and to have labour pains during pregnancy etc. God intended sex to be fun and free of pain and decease - his first commandment recorded in the Bible to man and woman was to have sex - be fruitful and multiply. All else you mentioned came about because of sin.

Jesus had to be born of a virgin birth because of many reasons, i can give you a few: God was already His father, He wasn't born in sin and shapen in iniquity because he didn't have the regular birth as all humans who are born in sin have, etc.

Answer 10

Humans were designed, as every other animal, to procreate, not to be pleasured. As for the birth control and abortions--as well as the pleasure point--humans have capacity for higher brain function, giving us the ability to choose to do these things and to make them happen through our forced will.

And as for Jesus: why would it not seem logical for a man and wife to actually have sex??

Answer 11

people are not born of virgins. Once you beleive in immaculate conception you will beleive in any strange story even if it is crazy and untrue. the best cure for christianity is a good education. please go back to school and get an education higher than third grade