seperation of church and state in america is it a big lie or what?

Question

churches are tax exempt, prayer in public schools start with the words *dear Jesus*, and the bible is taught as literature i smell a theocracy around the corner. I hope people realize this and do something about it.

Answer 1

You are wrong. the activity of the U.S. government could not possibly be further from concerning itself with anything required in the Bible.
Did you not notice? Despite tax-exempt status, many churches are closing their doors.
Prayer in public schools? where?
Bible taught in public schools? where?
The U.S. will be part of this prophecy:Dan. 2:44 “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; 45 forasmuch as you beheld that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The grand God himself has made known to the king what is to occur after this. And the dream is reliable, and the interpretation of it is trustworthy.”
The U.S. part? molded clay.

Answer 2

In reality, you cannot separate church and state. Our founding fathers never intended for America to be an atheistic society. Their intension was to PREVENT the kind of interference that the Catholic church thrusted upon the governments of Europe. America was founded as a Christian nation and will always be a Christian nature. I do not see a theocracy around the corner, but just the opposite----an America with a Christless Christianity, where the cross and Jesus Christ are banned from public. The time of the Antichrist is near. Jesus loves you.

Answer 3

Don't forget the ban on gay marriage, and abortion...the arguments against them are purely religious.

There's always been a bit of a theocracy in America - a country founded for religious freedom (but not necessarily tolerance). It only seems like there is a Theocracy around the corner now, because of Bush and his tendency to use religion.

I pesonally would rather not know what religion the President belongs to. It's irrelevant to me...and I actually lose a little respect for someone in a position of political power who uses their religion to gain support.

I don't have a problem with the bible being taught as literature...anymore than I have a problem with schools teaching about the ancient greek's religions. I think it's important that people learn about religions........all of them. There are good things to be learned from religion - as long as you have the ability to read between the lines, and not take everything so literally, or to the extreme.

Answer 4

Maybe I just live to far north in the USA , but none of the schools around me have prayer or Bible. Wow that would be great, to have the children taught a little morality. Maybe teen pregnancy would drop. Maybe murder would decline. That is such an awful thought though to have these gone, right. Could you imagine a society where you wouldn't need bars over your windows to keep thieves and rapists out. Would be nice, but since everyone wants to believe the Bible is the worst book to ever be, it won't happen. Oh and in the 50's Bible was taught in school. Look at the two different times. Something is wrong don't you think.

Answer 5

That's funny, because I found just the opposite.
My 5 year old could not take a book in to school because it mentioned God, even though she would read it.
Schools are being banned from praying publicly, including student prayers at graduations or games.
Stevensville High School in Michigan had to remove a picture of Jesus from the school, even though most of the students overwhelmingly wanted that picture on the hall walls because one student (an atheist) did not want it there. Only one student had the issue.
The child being used in the court case to ban the words under God from the Pledge of allegiance had a father who was an atheist. His ex-wife and the daughter attended church and did not agree with the court case, but the non-custodial father did it because it offended him.
Students request to have a Bible study on premises BEFORE school starts and are banned.

Christians feel that the atheists are so offended about any mention of God that they infringe on every one else's rights, even if the atheist is in the minority.

We are far from a theocracy. In fact, just the opposite is happening. In each of these cases, the atheists have won the cases, against the wishes of the majority.

Answer 6

Well, churches need to be protected from the government, just as government must be protected from the religious fanatics out there, but you do raise an interesting issue.
In theory (and this is why the ACLU is constantly filing new lawsuits, that it is just a theory), there should never be a formal prayer in a public school that starts "Dear Jesus".
What the Christo-Nazis fail to realize is that their own little sect would probably be left out if this were to become a theocracy. How would a Baptist like being forced to attend Methodist ceremonies (or vice versa)? How would either of them like to be given communion by a Catholic priest? How would any of them like being required to bow towards Mecca?
See, these folks are generally pretty narrow minded. They think that their own way of thinking is universal ... except for those danged librals, hippies and ay-theists. They fail to realize that, in the larger picture, their little gaggle of biblethumpers is a teensy minority that would be subsumed in any "state-sponsored religion".
Fortunately, the Constitution still protects them from their own stupidity. And the ACLU fights to keep the local idiots from heading down that slippery slope.
Many people do realize this. It's just that they are not the kind of folks who stand on streetcorners shouting about it all.

Answer 7

The Constitution prohibits the establishment of a state-sponsored religion. That's it. We all need to recognize and accept that most people are people of faith, and those are the values upon which this country was founded.

A state-sponsored religion is like the Church of England, where the Queen is the head of the church. Or pick any Islamic country on earth where you must be a Muslim or face criminal charges.

What we see in the US is nothing. We really need to get over ourselves and stop wasting time and money splitting hairs.

There are plenty of theocracies around the world, and this country is the furthest from that anywhere. Don't be ridiculous.

Answer 8

on the prompt we are a lot less non secular depending than we were 50 years in the past. The separation of church & state on the prompt is sectarian/atheism is the hot faith the state has followed. in my opinion i'm agnostic. i do not realize why the Left thinks a assassin should not be placed to lack of life yet an unborn could on the favor of the mum. It also would not make experience to me if a well being care service does a partical delivery abortion it truly is criminal at the same time as if the mum does it through throwing the child contained in the trash it really is not. My best difficulty although is the favor of the mum is each and every thing & the organic and organic father has no say, yet has to foot the invoice. & women persons say it really is a guy's international?

Answer 9

Nope, and when was the last time you heard prayer ANY prayer in schools?
the separation is quite effective and to tax Churches would be kicking ones self in the teeth. I say this often it is the Churches not the Government who is first to help in times of trouble last to leave,spend money give of time. Now what is considered a church? That needs some CLARITY.... there is a spaghetti monster to eat.

Answer 10

Most schools do not have public prayer - that would be promoting a religion. There should be no problem with individuals bringing their religious books to school, or churches or individuals displaying the 10 commandments or whatever on their own private property. That would be interfering with the free exercise of religion. No problem with public libraries having religious books as long as they are open to al religions and not just one. But the government should stay out of the religion business.