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I read this question and now i have a question. How did an explosion create the earth. Particularly when it is soooo complex? I thought explosions destroy stuff? And how did something so capible of inteligence come from a pile of goop, with someone all behind it??

2006-07-01 17:47:21 · 15 answers · asked by zoooooom!!! 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Another question: If we came from "goop" when we die, how come we don't go back to that? Instead we turn to dust. Y?

2006-07-01 17:51:03 · update #1

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The "explosion" you are talking about, I assume, is the equivalentof the Big Bang? "Big Bang" is siomething of a misnomer. The most prominent thinking now is that there was no "explosion of matter," but rather what is known as a "singularity" developed. (A singularity is mor popularly known as a "black hole" where matter and energy are tightly packed.)

The thing is, this singularity was very singular. It did not appear in space... space developed inside of it! It was actaully a potential dimension, like the three-dimensional space we live in, containing the potential to be three-dimensional. Even more...the singularity didn't appear in space; space first appeared inside of it!

Before that? Just dimensions existed. No space or time, or matter, or energy -- but each dimension had *potential* to make any of those, or perhaps something else. There is a hypothesis that two dimensional singularities "brushed" against each other, causing one of them (our current reality) to expand, releasing its matter.

Isn't that confusing? Think of it like this... do you know those liferafts that you can pull on a cord and they start inflating? Think of two liferafts -- each one of them is a dimension. They brush against each other and one of them starts inflating -- and it hasn't stopped yet!

But what is expanding is not the universe -- it's space-time. Space and time are the same thing, really. Can you move through space without it taking time? They are like conjoined twins.

What makes us think this -- for think we do, there is no absolute proof -- when we are in space-time and the universe is supposed to be expanding? Well, galaxies appear to be moving away from us -- at speeds in proportion to their distance! The farther away, the faster they appear to moving away... this was discovered in 1929 by Hubble, for whom the space telescope is named. It suggests that at one time the universe was compact and is continuing to expand. The potential inside the singularity would also have released energy -- and there is a heat behind the universe that was discovered by radioastronomers, called Cosmic Microwave Background (or CMB) radiation.

There are other models for the origin of the universe and thus the world, of course, including Einstein's static-spacetime paradigm which is pretty exciting, too.

Why are there so many possibilities? We don't "know" and can't "prove" how the universe started. The hypotheses are ways of bringing all the available evidence together and trying to understand how and why they fit together.

And with the *potential* energy, anything is possible, including the complexity of the world and its interdependent life systems. Think of it like this... how did mankind invent "zero" ? Most of us have ten fingers, so it's easy to see how our counting system developed based on tens, but how does one account for zero??? It doesn't even seem to have been regarded as a concept until around 1700 BCE (Before the Common Era). And the first symbol for it wasn't until the 9th century! The potential for it was always there -- humankind just didn't understand it.

That's where the complexity comes in -- *zero* is more complex than *one*. We can understand *one* easily. But numbers are more complex than that -- and some of them are even negative! How can there be a negative number? Doesn't everything exist in a positive sense? Well.... no. Potential is not a positive. And then there is anti-matter, which is even more complex! It's like a negative number. And yet, the potential idea that there was anti-matter existed long before there was actual proof of there being anti-matter!

Complexity is just the natural result of potential. Potential is not released in an orderly fashion... the expasion of the universe is the complex part and the way that universes and galaxies and such have developed out of that are the effect of space-time regaining some of its previous order. And it seems to expand at uneven rates. Since it doesn't exist and CANNOT exist in its previous fashion, it has to create new orders!

Science is the search to understand, categorize, and, if possible,
replicate those orders to try to understand how the universe actually works!

Now, to the second part... I assume that "goop" is your word for the concept of primordial soup, or the potential for life to exist at all. There I go again, talking about potential! Well, for a long time, scientists had it wrong. They believed that life resulted from what is called Spontaneous Generation -- for instance, even into the 17th century, there were "recipes" published in books that told how to create rats! You wrapped old meat in sweaty rags and left it sitting out and in a few days, you would have rats!

Instant life! Except, of course, it wasn't. What the "goop" did was turn the potential of Hydrogen, the most basic element, into other elements... each one becoming new and more complex as it potential was brought out, expanding the elements just like space-time is expanding! Then one of those combinations led to the building blocks of life... the potential was there all along, it just hadn't happened before.

Life itself didn't Spontanously Generate. It just drew the right elements together. At first all it needed to do was exist and spread, consume and breed. But some life existed better than others and potential abilities came more to front and before you know it, there's a need to go onto land, and to breathe air, and a need to be able to evade predators, and a need to be able to think and choose, and a need to remember, then a need to learn and on and on -- all biologically driven!

The potential to be intelligent was there... just up to a point, it wasn't needed, so the potential lay dormant. It was the zero. It was the singularity. It didn't take there being "someone all behind it."

After all, we distinguish what is designed from what is nature. We infer the presense of design and designed objects as having different characteristics from nature! The idea that nature needed to be designed is to eliminate the very concept of design.

Wow -- I've rattled on, but it's such an exciting subject, and more is being explored in it every day! Thanks for the chance to chat about it! I hope this helped!

2006-07-01 19:38:31 · answer #1 · answered by blueowlboy 5 · 1 1

The problem with your question is that, when Artificial Intelligence does becomes a thing of such intelligence, there may be a problem once the AI has connectivity to the internet and whatnot. Now a technological singularity would be something impressive, I plan to use that whence it becomes available. Also there is a flaw, because if the AI was created and made to create a better form of itself wouldn't it have upgraded itself or wouldn't the human have to program that within the AI to do so. Anything that we program an AI to do, will only upgrade as it was told to do. The thing with recursive self improvement is that you would have to install the idea of making something better then it's previous self. Aside from that you would have to put in a lot of data to get something like that to occur, and if something of that stature had been created, but it had no visual, cognitive functions such as we humans have, it will be unable to see what it could upgrade in design and intelligence. When something becomes too smart I will just point out that it would rather destroy the maker and all it's previous makers and editors because it would realize that the humans are a foul species that should never have been created, more or less since we seem to be more of a virus and nothing less or nothing more. Of course how is a body less machine going to be able to create a machine with the capabilities in which you speak of...of course it can further itself programming wise, but nothing more and nothing less as well. The problem with immortality is that once it occurs there will be too little space on one little planet even after the other planets have terraformed for the good of society, what would happen after more people are born and no one is able to die... we will have a reduction in the food supply, water supply and whatnot. If the AI did create the ability to terraform another place or planet, eventually the planet itself would run out of space and food just like it's previously habitable planets and places. Meaning immortality would soon have to be replaced so that humans will never need food or water, meaning a super human body that could have an endless production of energy without the bare necessities. Sky net from the terminator movies does do justice in when a machine becomes far too intelligent for the normal masses to control. This is my thought on the whole thing, it is also something I have talked about with a lot of friends and scientists, you have a great idea although it will possibly have a horrid ending though.

2016-03-27 00:47:47 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It has been a very common thing for people of a primitive culture when visited for one of the first times by someone from modern society to view the tech gadgets that they may have had with them as being crafted by the gods. They couldn't explain how these things came about yet they had to have some explanation for it. It is that above all else that seems to be the real reason why any religions exist. It is because we have an instinctive desire to not let anything go unanswered at least not things we decide are important. There's a lot of incidents in history that have no definite answer. Even totally human made events such as who shot President Kennedy. But never...ever... has it been let to lie unanswered. It's still to this day being constantly debated and scrutinized.

By the way, did you know that explosions are sometimes used to put out fires. Most of the famous carving in mount rushmore was created using dynamite. If you put a stick or dynamite in a watermelon and set it off you'll get one hell of a mess, but there's also a good chance that some of the seed will actually disperse and germinate unless you live somewhere where a watermelon doesn't have much of a chance of growing.

2006-07-01 18:57:33 · answer #3 · answered by Ron Allen 3 · 0 0

I can tell you've never read a thing about the big bang theory or the evoltion of life. You are thinking in terms of an explosion you would witness here on earth, in a envelope of atmosphere with the effects of gravity effecting it all. In the vacuum of space it would be much different. And when of where did you hear that life came from a pile of goop? Probably from a christian buddy. Do a little reading and a little research, expand your mind, learn to think for yourself....you might even amaze yourself...

2006-07-01 18:03:43 · answer #4 · answered by ndmagicman 7 · 0 0

In my opinion explosion doesn't truly destroy stuff, it simply makes it change its form from an observable one to one invisible by the human eye. That is in general, as far as explosions go. As far as this particular one, it probably didn't create anything in itself, it simply was symptomatic of the process of creation.
When the whole energy which was used for the process of creation couldn't be contained in its original state, it transcended into its current physical state, thus the explosion.
But the Earth, and the whole galaxy is not really all that complex, the principles of physical operation are all the same. The amount of energy that was used for the creation would be more than enough. Just my theory though. The physicists didn't explain the creation satisfactorily to my taste either. They, to my mind, ignore everything which is not physical matter. I think they underestimate the concept of energy, and the ability of a single consciousness to take part in the process of creation. I would think that only complete union between physics, psychology, and what is now considered metaphysics, is capable of explaining the whole thing. Just my opinion.

2006-07-01 18:01:09 · answer #5 · answered by ? 5 · 0 0

The idea of the big bang wasn't particularly focused on the creation of this planet, but of the whole universe. The thought was that at some point many billions of years ago, the universe consisted of one main body. That was what exploded - our planet was basically shrapnel in the scheme of things. As years progressed, the forms of bacteria that survived the blast grew to make up what called the primoridal pool, of which all life springs.

2006-07-01 18:12:07 · answer #6 · answered by Lonnie J 2 · 0 0

Good point...

God created the Universe, using the Big Bang.

For a discussion of the Big Bang and its Theistic implications, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/new/bigbang.html

The Big Bang, and the physical constants of the universe had to be extremely fine-tuned to create a universe where intelligent complex life could exist.

Evidence like this is bringing many intellectuals and scientists to the recognition that God really does exist.

E.g., for scientific and intellectual evidence for the existence of God, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/godsci/evidence.htm

I used to be an atheist. Over a period of time however, I grew convinced of the existence of the Christian God, and ultimately committed my life to Christ.

For a draft-version of my journey from atheism to Christ, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/testimony/seek.html

Cordially,
John

2006-07-01 17:51:06 · answer #7 · answered by John 6 · 0 0

Nova has a two disc section on the creation of the world. Rent it and it should answer all you questions about the creation of the world, it even talks a little about evolution, and the possibilty of life on other platents. I have to warn you, it have be a little boring.

2006-07-01 18:11:47 · answer #8 · answered by aaronmk2 3 · 0 0

an explosion created the universe...the "world" came together when the expansion of the debris that would make up the earth came under the influence of gravity....see my link below...

2006-07-01 17:54:10 · answer #9 · answered by David 2 · 0 0

I like the best answer quoted - "We don't "know" and can't "prove" how the universe started." So science really does not know! We have to be honest in our conclusions - It is factual science that nobody knows how the universe started.

Factual also that a person called Christ existed - ask any historian who is credible. If you ever experience Christ for real - this will then answer your question as to how the universe was created.

2014-07-22 06:31:06 · answer #10 · answered by mark 1 · 0 0

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