Does Isaiah 9:6 say that the son which would be born would be the father?

Question

Isaiah calls him the son and the father in the same verse. Does this mean that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh?

Answer 1

Jesus was flesh & blood Man with the indwelling Soirit of God, living in him. so in that way they were togeather, but two different Spirits joined. Jesus was Anointed with the Spirit of God. the" Holy Spirit" the intire New Testiment is about the making ready for recieving the Holy Spirit of God. With out the Holy Spirit in you this is hard to understand.

Answer 2

why dont you quote the verse next time.


Isaiah 9:6 (New King James Version)

6 For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace


if you can honestly read out of this verse that Jesus and G-d are one then you are only reading into it what you want and are not looking at it objectively.

Answer 3

Yes, basically since Jesus is one with God. God the Father, God the Sone, and God the Holy Ghost.

Answer 4

God the Father, God the son, Two separate and distinct personages. One in purpose. We are the heavenly offspring of God the father, as is Jesus Christ. We are the children of Jesus Christ because He bought us for a price when He died for our sins.

Answer 5

Huh?? that isn't what it says :(
NO Jesus is not God... think about it. If you do I am sure common sense will tell you they are not the same lol.
It says that he will be CALLED Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God (NOT Almighty God), Everlasting Father , Prince of Peace. They are all titles only. So he isn't saying he will be THE Father.

Answer 6

yes. God Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same god in different forms.

Answer 7

Jesus is a part of God, so yes.

Answer 8

“Wonderful Counselor”



Jesus’ counsel is not simply the product of his brilliant mind. Rather, he says: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me.” (John 7:16) As was the case with Solomon, Jehovah God is the Source of Jesus’ wisdom. (1 Kings 3:7-14; Matthew 12:42) Jesus’ example should motivate teachers and counselors in the Christian congregation always to base their instruction on God’s Word.—Proverbs 21:30

A counselor is one who gives counsel, or advice. When on earth Jesus Christ provided wonderful counsel. In the Bible we read that “crowds were astounded at his way of teaching.” (Matthew 7:28) He is a wise and empathetic Counselor, with an extraordinary understanding of human nature. His counsel is not restricted to reprimands or chastisement. More often, it is in the form of instruction and loving advice. Jesus’ counsel is wonderful because it is always wise, perfect, and infallible. When followed, it leads to everlasting life.—John 6:68.


“Mighty God” and “Eternal Father”

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3; Revelation 4:11) In the Scriptures, the word “god” can mean “mighty one” or “strong one.” (Exodus 12:12; 2 Corinthians 4:4) Before Jesus came to earth, he was “a god,” “existing in God’s form.” After his resurrection, he returned to an even higher position in the heavens. (John 1:1; Philippians 2:6-11) Further, the designation “god” carries an additional implication. Judges in Israel were called “gods” once by Jesus himself. (Psalm 82:6; John 10:35) Jesus is Jehovah’s appointed Judge, “destined to judge the living and the dead.” (2 Timothy 4:1) Clearly, he is well named Mighty God.

The title “Eternal Father” refers to the Messianic King’s power and authority to give humans the prospect of eternal life on earth. (John 11:25, 26) The legacy of our first parent, Adam, was death. Jesus, the last Adam, “became a life-giving spirit.” (1 Corinthians 15:22, 45; Romans 5:12, 18) Just as Jesus, the Eternal Father, will live forever, so obedient mankind will enjoy the benefits of his fatherhood eternally.—Romans 6:9.

“Prince of Peace”

Besides everlasting life, man also needs peace, In God’s due time, Christ will establish on earth a peace that will be global, firmly established, permanent. (Acts 1:7) “To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to sustain it by means of justice and by means of righteousness, from now on and to time indefinite.” (Isaiah 9:7a) In exercising his authority as the Prince of Peace, Jesus will not resort to tyrannical means. His subjects will not be stripped of their free will and subjugated by force. Rather, all that he will accomplish will be “by means of justice and by means of righteousness.”