Do you support the ignorance policy? - Don't ask don't tell?

Question

It seems like common sense to me if it were completly enforced. I don't want to hear or know about what other people are attracted to or what they do in bed. That goes for both homo, and hetrosexuals though. I don't need to know your sexualality. So don't be bringing your wife or girlfriend to familyreadyness meetings, or your kids. And especially don't introduce them as such. Because that is telling everyone your straight basicly. Ewe gross. I don't need to know about it. As long as it's the same all the way around it's ok. But when they start telling people they can't let people know about their sexualallity if it's a certain kind is when it's jacked up. All or none. People are just so offended by fairness and equality for some reason though.

ok, so the bathroom things comes up. Idealisticly it shouldn't matter. There shouldn't even need to be male and female bathrooms. people should just be able to respect eachother and be able to control themselves for the mostpart. We should just kick the idiots out who can't controll themselves, and have a problem with just doing what they need in the shower or bathroom, and getting the F### out. But then I guesse the army might be really small.....

The color in my world is purple. The mall and the military are two different places. People should treat eachother as fellow soldiers in the military, and it shouldn't have anything to do with sex.

How right you are... One of the problems is that often times even soldiers without famlies are forced/pressured to go to family readyness meetings. And when they don't go, they get labled as rebels, or troublemakers and put on the sh** list. It's still about being able to be open about your sexualality wether it's talking about it, or plainly having people see what it is without getting kicked out. If people did let everyone know, or atleast didn't hide it, they might be ridiculed and not get promoted and harrassed and stuff. But it seems like it ought to be their choice to do that if they want to. It's similar to religion to me. People don't always go around telling people what they believe in or don't beleive in, and if you do, then there is that possability that you could get harrassed about it, or not get promoted because of it. But just because someone knows they will be harrassed if they are some odd religion, or something doesn't mean they should be kicked out for revealing it.

Answer 1

Why is it that there are gay troops in other country's military forces and we can't handle it here ? Are you guys such babies, that you have to worry about someone 'scoping' you out in the shower? oooh he's looking at me, I'll have to shoot him. christ , how immature. You should see what you put women thru! So let the gay fellas shower first.. What is the big damn deal? You straight men have such sexual hangups and your egos are so fragile.
Why can't we (gay men & women) serve our country honorably without the gov't making such a damn production about it. I am so sick and tired about the cry babies who are afraid that another guy might look at them. You would react the same way if a gay guy came up to you in a bar and offered to buy you a drink because you were a hottie. Your first reaction - hit him. How perfect! Hit someone who thinks you're cute. How stupid!
Do you know the numbers of gay men & women who have been thrown out of the service recently because of declared homosexuality or alleged? Don't ask, don't tell has NOT died a quiet death because there still is alot of ignorance and hatred in this country. Many of these newly discharged people were specialists in middle eastern languages and they could have helped us protect our own soldiers.
I had to get out during the viet nam war because I realized I was gay and would not live in the closet. I had a great job, I loved it and did well, but thanks to you ignoramuses, I had to give up my career.

Answer 2

We are living in the conservative era, where tolerance is said in the same breath of sanctity of marriage. The government can't be bigoted, but it is run by bigots who give government funding to churches, write military policy, and try to pass laws. Where are the good old days when touchy feely liberals sicced the ACLU on the conservatives when they were being bad. Frankly, the fact that we have the policy offends me. It's a compromise, and it's not really the soliders that care about sexuality, it's the brass. The candy asses that don't dirty their hands. If a person is fighting and dieing beside you, you consider the person not the stereotype. Unfortunately, the leaders of our military would kick out and keep out any homosexual, and those are the ones watching every aspect of your life to determine if you're their kind of man, not just what you do on the battle field, or in training. Unfortunately, until there are more fair-minded people in charge, it's going to be don't ask, but look around and see if you find anything obvious. Of course there are fair-minded brass out and there are bigoted soliders, I didn't mention those exceptions to make a point.
My view is if you want to fight and die for me, I shouldn't stick my nose in where it's none of my business.

Answer 3

Ok....I support don't ask don't tell and it is illegal in the military to share sexuality with other whether you are straight or not. Try having a conversation on sex with someone who doesn't like it and see if a EO complaint is not filed. It is called sexual harrassment. Also the point of Family Readiness meetings it to ready the FAMILY, not the Soldier. The Soldier is supposed to already be ready.

Answer 4

Well if the gay guy can use the men's show room, then I think I should be able to use the females. Nothing like being in a room full of people you are attracted to sexually. Sure he might not be attacted to all men in the shower room, but I won't be attracted to every woman in the shower room either.

The military doesn't accept fat, or handicapped people either. Its one of the few organizations that can still practice systematic discrimination. And women can pull a trigger, but they don't let them in combat units. So find another way to service your country...or if it just means you have to stay in the closet to remain in the military then I guess that's what you have to do.

Answer 5

It seems like a simple question of sexual harassment. If you are a gay man in the military, it is inappropriate to make straight men feel uncomfortable. That means, in essence, don't ask, don't tell. It occurs to me that men and women in the military (and elsewhere) are bound by the same sort of rule. I think the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy was made as a sort of addendum to a sexual harassment policy already in place. Military law being different than civilian law, however, there may have been some rule in place against being homosexual and being in the military at the same time. Such a rule in the civilian world would be criminal, as it should be, so it was also made criminal in the military world. So, we go from "it is illegal to be homosexual," to "no one needs to know you're homosexual." That seems fair to me. So, in reference to the question at hand: Yes. I do support the ignorance policy. It is a great step forward for men and women who wish to serve their country, and who may or may not be homosexual.

Answer 6

I agree that you don't need to be telling other people what your sexual orientation is one way or antoher. It is no one's buisness but your own (and God's)

But if I have a spouse that I love and adore, you're telling me I can't go out in public with them? Don't you like to go out in public with someone you care about?

If you don't bring a wife or girlfriend along, and the other guys figure your gay, I guess that's the breaks. But don' t tell the rest how to live or not to llive.

I think the only thing that should matter is if you can fire a gun.

Answer 7

Does anyone really expect a gay man to go into a job and admit to something that they know will immediately bring about disdain, harassment, abuse, and eventually, will lead to them being passed over for promotions or advancement? Why dont you try taking a new job and upon being hired, say, Oh by the way, I'm a christian but I like to have rough sex with married women, and tell me how that works out for you...

I dont see a helluva lot of the straight , macho *** rich republican men or women enlisting to go over to Iraq, Iran or Afghanistan...

Answer 8

If you're bent you're bent. Keep it to yourself while you're in
the military and save everyone a bunch of trouble.
Straights don't appreciate it when some gay guy is watching
them shower. It can get very hostile and dangerous for the
gay guy. I was in the military for 10 years. If I thought some
guy was scoping me I would be going to the showers with
my side arm, fully loaded. (I was an MP).
I Corinthians 13;8a, Love never fails!!!!!

Answer 9

Don't ask Don't tell was phased out in October of '05. It died a very quiet death. According to the Army regulation governing conduct, there is no penalty in the military for being gay, only for showing a propensity for homosexual acts.

Answer 10

What color is the sky in your world that you think men & women could use same bathrooms & showers without a problem? I can't go to the mall without unwanted advances.