As a Jew, I find it very insulting when Christians seek to convert me in order to avoid going to Hell?

Question

To me, it's really bullshit for people to say that regardless of how good you are in society, you will still go to hell- yet if your a serial killer you can still go to heaven if you merely believe in Jesus. Jewish people like me believe that when someone wrongs somebody, then that person needs to not merely repent to G-d, but also to go to the person and repent and offer compensation. This makes sense, because as Jews we believe everyone has a bit of G-d within them and that we must respect each other as being deserving. In spite of all this, explain to me why a Christian will approach a good person, who happens to be Jewish that he or she will go to hell if the major tenents of Christianity are not accepted.

I understand peoples feelings about my question. I have a lot of Christian friends, and as Jews regardless of what religion you accept, if you are a decent person and concerned with social justice, than that's what's important. I apologize if I came across as stereotypical. By the way, I believe there are always consequences to peoples behavior, and then there's always a time for forgiveness. To everything there is a season. Peace :)

Answer 1

There is an everlasting Levitical Priesthood in the old testament for the nation of Israel/Judah. You can see the Messiah prophesied of throughout the old testament. Yeshua is the promised Messiah. Just do some bible study without anyone looking.

Written in the New Testament.... Those that deny Yeshua the Messiah, He will deny before His Heavenly Father (YHVH ELHYM).

Jews all over are having their eyes opened to the truth of Yeshua Messiah, because the fullness of the Church of Christ is happening. This is prophetic. Because God loves Israel & God loves everybody else He created. The Word of God is being published and preached around the world, even throughout Israel today.

Remember, it was Jews who wrote the new testament, and gave their life for the truth they believed in.

God needs to restore Israel. This will happen when Israel repents for there part in the crucifixion of Yeshua Messiah. For if we humble ourselves before our God and repent of our wickedness, God will restore our land. It is a promise. Remember the land borders should be from the Eqyptian River to the Euphrates River. The enemies of Israel cannot destroy Israel because they would have to destroy Heaven first. As Jacob also knows where the ladder to Heaven is. There is a special connection there.

Jesus (Yeshua) is the angel who fought Jacob and exalted His name to Israel. Israel is the apple of His eye. This is Jesus land.

What I am writing is something Jesus Christ revealed to me after & when I had prayed for Israel. When Israel was delivered from Egypt, the Lord God said, "This is Israel, my first born." So Israel, to me is a big brother/sister. Through Jesus Christ saving grace, I am a member of the body of Christ, a child of God, by adoption; where I can cry out Abba, daddy. Jesus is the High Priest of the New Testament, forever, after the order of Melchizedek, because He paid the ultimate sacrifice once and for all of us.

The only sin the Holy Spirit convicts the world of (those not reconciled to God),is the sin of not believing in Yeshua Messiah, the Son of God. Jesus said I AM the Way, Truth & Life.

Remember also that when Israel withdraws from Gaza or West Bank, this is not pleasing to Jesus. As a consequence of our part, Huricane Katrina took land from USA., and we continue with natural disasters that God permits Satan to do for a reason.

Remember, Yeshua loves Israel. Seek God with all your heart, and He will show you the truth. It is a promise.


Added later. AllenF is right. Those that help even the least of the family of God are on track. That includes all children for they are an example of God's Kingdom. Those that don't, miss the mark.

True believers of the levitical priesthood, with faith in YHVH ELHYM, are shown Jesus (Yeshua) in it. They just don't draw the connection yet. Still have faith in the true God. True Christians (from every nation) believe in the same God and believe in Jesus Christ because He is the way to God. Once a person is born of God, that is their ticket to Heaven. Person loves God because God first loved them. Out of the love of their heart to God, they will pray for other Christians/ Messianic Jews, Israel, those unsaved, etc....

Every person born into the family of God goes to Heaven. Every Messianic Jew goes to heaven (even if they don't realize their faith in the Messiah yet).

Answer 2

Christians who follow Jesus (a rabbi) have had a lot of dogma thrown at them over the eons by religious leaders who tell beads at one another but have never sought the truth. The truth can be found in the original bible (the five books of Moses); taken literally, one gets a sense of things but one remains far from the mark. The bible is a document that was entirely encoded and revealed the truth about our existanse. Read the "Bible Codes". All the answers to every question starting with why can be found there; unlike the pat answer given by Christians: "Because it is written!". If that answer is enough for them; well you can't expect much. Thinking is not part of their equation! If the creator had wanted us to follow blindly, like sheep, would he have given us the capacity to grow, wonder and question? Obviously the Christians have followed the religious leaders not realizing that the true denominations of the churches have been 20's, 50's and 100's! They are for the most part clueless as to what hell really is. It exists but not the way they think. Hell is when you've realized your misdeeds and the burning is in your shame for having done the wrong things that you've done. Sorry, no fire, no brimstone.....that's a bunch of hogwash. Ignore the close minded and leave them to their fates; after all, in the end they will finally have to come to grips with the nonsense they digested and regurgitated during their lives. Won't they be shock to find out that they are also Jews that have been following a Jew all these years? Last note: Don't feel insulted when confronted by a narrow and closed mind; they don't know any better.

Answer 3

I don't have to convert you to go to Hell. I can do that all on my own.

Ok, I'll be serious. I don't buy that Jews are doomed. That really wasn't the way of Jesus. Jesus was a Jew. Without the background of Judaism, there is no Christianity. If you are with the Spirit of God, you are with Jesus whether you acknowledge him or not. And all the rest is just dogma, forms and tradition.

As a Christian, I do believe Jesus willl be the judge. He will stand between you and heaven and the only path is through him. But he told us how that judgement would go.

He will say you saw him naked and clothed him, hungry and fed him, sick and you comforted him, in prison and you visited him.
When you answer that you don't remember doing these things for him, he will say, "Insamuch as ye have done it unto the least of these, my brethern, ye have done it unto me."

Then as you pass Jesus on the way to the gate, Moses will hold it open for you. Jesus won't have any problem recognizing the yamulka, the prayer shawl or the Star of David.

Many Bible passages seem to differ with what I have just said, but I can point to as many that support it, So I, and many others like me, believe salvation lies in spirit and actions. There will be many Jews in Heaven, and many Christians in Hell.

Answer 4

Dear Jonathan T.,

Asou are well aware there are people who masquerade as something that they are not. We see this with the pilots who crashed into the World Trade Center. They may have dressed as pilots but the care and concern for their passengers certainly was not there. There have been numerous stories of physicians who had an M.D. license but raped or sexually molested their patients. These "christians" who approached you in an attempt to convert you as you've stated were not really christians. A true "christian" knows full well that he cannot convert anybody. I use the term convert (conversion) to mean transfer from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light. Only the Lord God can do that! Man cannot, by any work he does, wash away sin from himself nor any other sinner. That is a work that only God (the Lord Jesus Christ) can do. If you would like further info type www.familyradio.com into your web browser. I hope this helps.

Answer 5

Are you really? Are you and your family descended from the tribe of Judah, or is it that your family may have only lived in the area of Judah? If the latter is the case, and you are now living here, where ever that is, then you are not a Jew.
No one is guaranteed salvation by good works alone. You must be in the Will of God. That's spelled G O D not G-D.
The will of God is that we accept His Son, His only begotten Son that through Him His Saviour, you can have eternal life in Heaven.
There are old Christians and there are new Christians. Little ones Jesus calls them. They have not moved on to the meat of the Word as of yet, but given time they will and things like what you spoke of will stop.
I hope this will help you also as you take your walk with God and find your own salvation.
In His Service.

Answer 6

I totally agree with you and I have the same beliefs as you (I am not a Jew, but thinking of converting). I don't see how Christians telling Jews that they are going to go to hell is supposed to scare them anyways because they don't even believe in hell. I think they do what they do because Christians are more concerned with after we die than our lives today and making the world a better place. The whole serial killer thing doesn't make sense to me either, because I know I wouldn't want to be in heaven with one..lol :)

Answer 7

christians stole Judaism because in doing so they could smear it in their faces. christians stole from the Pagans in doing so they could bash Paganism. christians stole from Hindus, in doing so they try to claim the rights to God. but the bottom line is Jesus is not God, John the Baptist is a liar and the whole of christianity was founded on thievery lies and bloodshed. They dont care about you otherwise they whould leave you alone and let you be yourself. Also from expereince alone i will tell you THEY DONT CARE BECAUSE when you deconvert the minute you deconvert they are nowhere to be seen thats the honest to the Gods truth!!


Real Christians

One of the most frustrating aspects of conversing with Christians has to do with the definition of the term Christian itself. It's easy for anyone to point the finger at the history of Christianity and show its atrocities…the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Nazis… But it is equally easy for someone else to say, "They weren't True Christians."

Now just what do you say to that? (If you're smart, you say nothing and walk away. But I'm not always smart.)

It seems that every Christian has their own definition of what it means to be a Christian. Silly me, I always thought a Christian was one who worshipped Jesus Christ as his/her savior. But to listen to some people, there's far more to it than that. Now, they can't come to an agreement on what those things might be, but they all insist that anyone who doesn't fit their special little definition isn't a Christian. The bible itself isn't clear on the subject, either. But then, the bible is full of contradictory passages, so this should be no surprise.

Some examples of the modern Christian's perspectives... I know of no Christian who accepts that Hitler and the Nazis could possibly have been Christian, despite Hitler's many speeches and writings, despite his words to friends, and despite the vocal beliefs of many of his followers. Similarly, groups like the KKK "aren't Christian," either, even though they constantly refer to Jesus. Catholics? No, they're not True Christians, according to many Protestants. And vice versa.

I've been told that the behaviors of some "supposed" Christians aren't in keeping with the Scriptures, which teach forgiveness, love, and kindness, blah blah blah…

Well, the thing is, some biblical writings do teach such behavior. However, the "good book" is also full of actual examples of the opposite, and from "godly" men, too. Overall, it's a situation of "do as I say, not as I do." And we all know how well that works.

If one were to approach someone described as not being a "real" Christian, they'd insist that they are as "real" as they come. And in their minds, they probably are. So what point is really made by saying they aren't? It's simply a way to dismiss them, to write them off as being pretenders. But that doesn't change the fact that they are, whether one likes it or not, a representative of their professed beliefs. They may not be representative of the best aspects of said belief, but few people are, no matter the beliefs.

To my way of thinking, if you call yourself a Christian, and believe yourself to be a Christian, then it doesn't matter a bit if others think you're Christian or not. It's just a situation of some Christians not wanting to accept that Christians can be scum, just like anyone else.

Answer 8

Because we love you! We don't want you to go to hell! We want you to have the assurance of life everlasting through believing in His Son, Jesus Christ. You, as Jews, are Christ's first love. You have been His chosen people for generations upon generations. As to who can go to Heaven--if you believe in the the Lord Jesus Christ you will be saved. That does not however, give you a free pass. You still have consequences and punishment.

Kas

Answer 9

A) These whom you describe are zealous and not too well informed. Be kind to the poor things. They're fed a diet of pap and crap from others who know no more than they, but most of them DO mean well.

B) That being said, please don't take them as representative of ALL Christians. Any more than you'd want US to take the Old Sanhedrin as representative of ALL Jews. We made that mistake already. We won't again.

C) And don't worry one way or another. You're still the Chosen People and I'm sure that when you move from time to eternity you'll be introduced to Christ and allowed to choose Him or NOT Him then.

Shalom.

Answer 10

I am sorry that you have been offended by these Christians who are saying you will go to hell for your beliefs. These are the ones that give other christians a bad name. The bible says to leave the judgements of others up to God. Maybe these christians are trying to help, but I think they are hindering instead of helping. The bible teaches that we as christians are supposed to spread the word of God to others. Maybe that is what they have been trying to do with you and are just going about it the wrong way. Try not to be upset with these people. Just understand that they are only trying to do what they think in their mind is the right thing to do,even though they may be going about it the wrong way. Listen to them, to their beliefs, and then explain to them your beliefs. Who knows, maybe you each can help each other and both be able to come to a better understanding of God's word.

Answer 11

i know exactly what you mean i just had my bat~mitzvah a few months ago and i find it very hard to watch something like that happen. the other thing i can't stand is when some one will say this thing is Jewish when something breaks or if some one is being stupid they will say what a Jew. you just want to hit them some times obviously you don't but you really want to. the other thing is that Judaism was there before Christianity so why do people think like that*_*