Why don't you believe in God (intelligent people only)?

Question

How do you think away a Creator when when you really dig deep down into deep science you find that evolution really and truely is impossible. From the surface it might look okay to people who were told over and over that it is, but when you look at all the factors how can you still believe that just by chance over millions of years we stopped wanting to be algae and worked towards progressing ourselves into humans.

I think it will be interesting 30.000 years from now to see how humans transform into trash. You know evolve to adapt to our environment.

On another note, i have this crashed up computer at home, I was thinking of putting in the wash machine on run cycle, and applying electricity to it for the next million years. I figure by then the computer will a) either become a computer again or b) turn itself into a some being of higher intelligence.

Oh, Lori- I know without doubt God exists. I worship him all day long. He is the reason I am created and the reason I am here. I want you to prove to me he doesn't. It is for your sake, not mine.

Good response jmm- Islam does not disagree with natural selection and adaptation. But it completely disagrees with evolution- as in- there is no creator. In fact the big bang is even mentioned in the Quran.

Iso- there is no strong scientific proof of other planets outside our universe, but you believe in them don't you?

There are a lot of hoax reports when it comes to evolution. I would be very careful in believeing them. In fact the Quran states that Allah turned some nations of men into apes and rats. Interesting reverse evolution for 600AD. The best books I have read on the lies and hoaxes on evolution are by Harun Yahya. www.harunyahya.com

Answer 1

An intelligent answer would be wasted on you because you are not seeking the truth, but rather validation of your own beliefs so you can feel superior.

Quite frankly, if you were without doubt, you wouldn't have to prove your superiority, you'd already be comfortable with what you know.

But I will thank you for this opportunity to score 2 points.

Answer 2

To begin to toss my two sense in, first I'll openly admit that I am a Christian, and that I put no belief in evolution or the Big Bang theory.
Can I prove Gods' existance? No. I wish I could. I wish I had a proof that Jesus was much more than mearly a man, that the cross was more than just some guy being exicuted for heresy. But I can't.
What I have completely tossed out is the belief that all that is came out of nothingness. If there was a big bang as some believe, what caused it? And what caused the event that in turned caused the big bang? And in turn, what caused that, and so on and so fourth.
But we live in a massive cause and effect system essentially. My only way of believing how all we know could have come into being is if something beyond the restrictions of the cause and effect system (ie. God) created everything, or at the very least created all this matter to in turn become the universe as we know it.
I hope I don't sound like I'm trying to be supperior to anyone, there is much I simply don't know either. But I take no effence from any of the comments made so far even though I am a self professed Christian.
And I can understand someone being Agnostic (not believing or disbelieving in the existance of God), but I can't say that I understand someone being an Aetheist and beleiving for sure that here is no God, with there being no proof.
Anyway, I submit this as my own opinion, with admitadly nothing my than my own logic and sense in it, with no hard facts of my own.

Answer 3

This is exactly my problem with people like you. You need to realize that 1) there's no PROOF there is a God, 2) People have the right to believe what they want, and 3) You can't be a good Christian by trying to get your point across using sarcastic and ridiculous examples.

IF someone wants to believe the Earth was created by a dog, no matter how ridiculous it sounds to you, it isn't much more far fetched than your belief. We KNOW that things evolve, we KNOW that something put the Earth here, we KNOW that you will never KNOW the answer for sure. So why argue it? The fact of the matter is I am a Christian. However, instead of believing EVERYTHING a book written by a man tells me, I try to ask what makes sense and what doesn't. I ask what could be proven and what can't. And if you can't PROVE there is a God than you can't tell anyone else that their belief is wrong. You can't PROVE that evolution wasn't how man got here. All you have is what you believe in your heart, and that is based on an opinion gained from either your parents or you attending a church with people with the same beliefs.

Answer 4

If I can find a simpler explaination for a problem, I take it. I can either believe that the gremlins stole my keys just to drive me insane, or I can think that maybe I put them somewhere else and forgot. See how much more often the simpler reason is the right one? Not to mention that the latter is also more intelligible and we can do something about it...

Lets take these heuristics and apply them to creation. I can either believe that God created everything for some obscure, unknowable reason a couple thousand years ago, with almost everything set as it is now, and that all the evidence to the contrary is a trick, or I can deduce that matter can be traced to a Big Bang, that the planet built itself somewhat more slowly through gravity, that lifeforms changed themselves through mutations over hundreds of thousands of generations. Not only is the latter simpler because it shows how something can build itself without an extraneous god, but it's based upon ideas which are practical and useful.

Maybe your problem is that you don't have the slightest clue over what you're talking about. Living things die, and the only way we have living things today is if they wanted to reproduce. Therefore, the algae "wanted" merely to survive and reproduce, not become human. Radiation from the sun and from radioactive metals in the Earth cause our DNA to break up sometimes; that's what causes aging, and if our reproductive cells (sperm/eggs) are affected can cause mutations.

The algae with the best mutations survived and reproduced the best. Sometimes, that meant that algae was more efficient at photosynthesis, other times meant that algae mutated to live in colonies. Colonies of algae mutated to become more dependant on structure, and after it became structured enough we start calling it a single plant, although it's really just a couple thousand algae cells that mutated specializations and living together. All these plant-colony-species mutated to survive, just as the algae-cells alone did before, and these structures slowly differentiated through many, many generations. Eventually, life evolved sex, which made use of evolution in a revolutionary way by speeding the chance for mutation-like effects and increasing the chance for improvements such that almost all higher organisms have sex, today including most plants.

Note: humans are no more evolved than today's algae. Algae evolved to be at least as good at surviving in it's environment as we are in ours, therefore there's no fundamental difference. We might have opposable thumbs, but we can't survive alone in a scum pond. Actually, it seems that your biggest problem with evolution is because evolution claims that humans aren't really special, not that the idea itself doesn't make sense. You are too prideful for your own good in our society, not to mention the sinful aspect of pride...

You see, your computer needs to be able to mate for it to have any chance of evolving. We might say that the internet might allow that, and we might see artificial intelligence eventually arise accidentally from this medium, but no amount of wash-cycling can help you there.

Answer 5

I do not feel that an intelligent answer is necessary on such an ignorant question. First of all, God and evolution are different issues. Second, evolution is real, the end. There are thousands of fossils that show a steady change in species. There is DNA evidence. There are species that have evolved into different animals in the last twenty years! That is why we have different strains of the flu virus almost on a yearly basis. There is also a group sockeye salmon that was introduced to a lake in Washington 50 years ago, and has already split into two separate species. What is it going to take for you fundies to pick up a book, or enroll in school? And as for God being real, who knows? The difference between you and me is I do not claim to know. Only religion can bolster that amount of arrogance.

Answer 6

I believe in God and Jesus Christ as the son of God. When God created the universe, He also created man and in His own image. The image of God in which we are made is the ability to make choices, and the power to create, to influence, to take DOMINION. I do not believe I evolved from a frog or a fish or algae.

I do believe that there is some from of evolution around us. Not from frog to man or from fish to trees or anything like that, but there is some evolution, more of cultural evolution than any other, so if you look at the way we dress today and the things we eat, the diseases we get and treat, they are very different from a thousand years ago.

When God led Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in their times, and the children of Isreal out of Egypt, they had no King. Look at what we've got today. Look at the war planes, look at the fact man can now go to the moon.

So, there is some sort of change, some transition, some evolution in our ways and standard of life, but I am definitely NOT going to transform into trash in a million years. No.

Answer 7

Firstly, I don't believe in any of the popular theories about the creation (i.e. the big bang or God) or evolution. However, I do believe a supernatural force had to play a role in the creation and the way humans adapt. But the question was why don't I believe in God.

I don't believe in God as he is defined by any human text. I believe there is an ultimate supernatural being or beings that have created us for an unknown reason. Maybe we created ourselves. No one knows and therefore I don't believe in anything that fantastic. I believe it is good to live a good life and be respectable. I believe in Karma. But I don't believe in anything that religious text has to offer.

Answer 8

Evolution is based on DNA. Your computer doesn't have a genetic code. Therefore, based on SCIENCE, I assume that the only thing that will happen is that you will get electrocuted by putting an electronic device in water. But wait...I'm sorry. I forgot: the Bible doesn't mention atomic theory, so you probably don't believe in electrons either. How can you trust a book (the Bible) that may or may not be true, but convienently ignore observations made by scientists for many years.

Answer 9

I'm insulted by your statement. I believe in God, and I also believe in the theory of evolution. Don't you think God created our *souls* in His image, and *not* our physical form? If humans aren't so good at adapting, then why can I live in Michigan? The weather changes like crazy -- one day it's in the 80s, the next day it's in the 40s. Study up on evolution before you write something like this. But hey, at least you spelled everything right.

Answer 10

lol, i have dug deep into science and didn't find a creator, but evolution. its not impossible. its possible, although we don't understand everything about it yet. some parts are a mystery. just because its a mystery, doesn't mean that we have to throw up our hands and just say "god did it!". life doesn't work that way. we just dig deeper and hope to find some answers.

to answer your original question, why i don't believe in god, i look to history first. god has many faces and many personalities. mostly to fit those who live in a certain area. it is not coincidence that the gods of Egypt were more lenient than the gods of Sumeria, who were full of wrath and considered humans playthings. Egypt had the Nile, a river that flooded with regularity and gave them a reliable food source. the Sumerians had less than predictable rivers and climate in general. the god of the Jews bears a remarkable resemblance to the gods of Samaria with a few distinct changes (ex. there was only one god). such as, his commandments follow the format of old Sumerian law codes. or that the story of genesis is similar to other creation stories. this i think was not by chance, but because the people were similar and thought up similar stories.
then i look to reason. how can a god who is infinitely wise and loving be so horrible? how can he kill all the first born of Israel? how can he allow the Israelites to kill anyone who stood in their path when they conquered Canaan? why does he send good people to hell simply for not praying to them? were we made simply to praise his name? is that our only purpose? strikingly similar to other gods i must say.....
the more i read, the more i watch the discovery channel, the less i believed there was a deity.
the contradictions in the bible and god's nature were only the beginning. i began to look for other answers, and i found them. but not in a god. i found them in myself. that's where most people forget to look.