The church will be in the world during the time of trouble
What does the Bible say about the Secret Rapture?
“No single verse specifically states Christ will come before the Tribulation.”
Tim LaHaye (author of “Left Behind”)
Friends the belief in the SECRET RAPTURE is a dangerous doctrine because it is not Biblical. Please read with an open mind. Nowhere in the scriptures does it make any reference of a “SECRET RAPTURE”. Many people reference I Thessalonians 4 but they don’t actually read the whole chapter read verse 16.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT, with the VOICE of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last Trump: for the TRUMPET shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. I Corinthians 15:52
These are some of the nosiest verses in the Bible how can it be a secret?
Where is the scripture that says “7 years of Tribulation”?
It cannot be found, because it is not in the Bible
Did God save Noah from the flood or through it
Did God save Israel from the plagues or through them
Did God save Daniel from the lions den or through it
But doesn’t the Bible say that the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night?
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which THE HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY with a GREAT NOISE, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be BURNED up. II Peter 3:10
He comes as thief because it catches people by surprise.
What does the Bible say will happen when Jesus comes back
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matt 24:27
Everyone will see it you can’t miss it
Our God shall come, and shall not keep silent; A fire shall devour before Him, And it shall be very tempestuous all around Him. He shall call to the heavens from above, And to the earth, that He may judge His people: “Gather My saints together to Me, Those who have made a covenant with Me by sacrifice.”
Psalms 50:3
I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void; And the heavens, they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled, And all the hills moved back and forth. I beheld, and indeed there was no man, And all the birds of the heavens had fled. I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness, And all its cities were broken down At the presence of the LORD, By His fierce anger. Jeremiah 4:26
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:30,31
since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. II Thessalonians 1:6-8
1 angel rolled away the stone and 100 Roman soldiers collapsed in fear like dead men.
1 angel killed almost 200,000 Assyrian soldiers in one night
Jesus is coming with all his angels who will take flaming fire vengeance how can this be a secret?
But doesn’t the Bible say 1 shall be taken and 1 shall be left?
Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. Matt 24:28
Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.” And they answered and said to Him, “Where, Lord?”
So He said to them, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.” Luke 17:36, 37
Notice how Jesus answers where the body and the vultures are gathered. The vultures devouring the flesh because those “Left Behind” will be dead.
The secret Rapture was created by a Catholic monk named Ribera. It was supposed to be used in the Counter Reformation, but no one believed it.
There is no Secret Rapture when Jesus comes he comes in glory the world does not go on for 7 years. When Jesus comes probation for sinners is over. We need to be ready now. Life does not continue on Earth after Jesus comes.
This video explains it
http://prophecycode.org/Resources/Video/PCVideo/ProphecyCode_2.asx
This is a list of other topics dealing with the end of times
http://prophecycode.org/meeting-list.asp
2006-07-01 03:24:55
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answered by Conundrum 4
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The rapture will occur before the tribulation.
Here is a website with alot of Pre-Trib supporting scriptures.
http://www.linkjesus.com/rapture.htm
2006-07-01 09:48:39
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answered by bobm709 4
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Is your question: "Will the rapture occur before, during, or after the tribulation?"
My view to that question is that Jesus Christ's second appearance will occur as soon as the last trumpet sounds. There will be seven trumpet judgements, which may or may not be parallel with the bowl and seal judgements. I am not certain if they are all one after another or mixed up together. At any rate, at that time of the sounding of the last trumpet (which humans may or may not hear), Jesus will return and every single person will know it. I don't believe in an invisible rapture that occurs before His second coming. I think that Christians will have to endure part or all of the tribulation, but I think that God will offer protection to His people, much like He did with Noah and Lot. Regarding the women working in the field, where one was taken and the other left: I think that the ones who were taken were the non-believers, taken away to recieve their judgement.
2006-07-01 09:44:34
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answered by Iamnotarobot (former believer) 6
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there is skimpy evidence to support pre and mid, none for post. Post would serve no purpose. almost no one believes post. what do you think?
2006-07-01 09:44:57
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answered by Terrence J 3
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