What Existed Before The Big Bang?

Question

Renowned atheist philosopher Anthony Flew says:
Notoriously, confession is good for the soul. I will therefore begin by confessing that the Stratonician atheist has to be embarrassed by the contemporary cosmological consensus. For it seems that the cosmologists are providing a scientific proof of what St. Thomas contended could not be proved philosophically; namely, that the universe had a beginning. So long as the universe can be comfortably thought of as being not only without end but also beginning, it remains easy to urge that its brute existence, and whatever are found to be its most fundamental features, should be accepted as the explanatory ultimates. Although I believe that it remains still correct, it certainly is neither easy nor comfortable to maintain this position in the face of the Big Bang story.

Some scientists like the British materialist physicist H. P. Lipson confess that they have to accept the Big Bang theory whether they want it or not:
If living matter is not, then, caused by the interplay of atoms, natural forces, and radiation, how has it come into being?… I think, however, that we must…admit that the only acceptable explanation is creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it.

# Henry Margenau, Roy Abraham Vargesse, Cosmos, Bios, Theos, La Salla IL: Open Court Publishing, 1992, p. 241

# H. P. Lipson, "A Physicist Looks at Evolution", Physics Bulletin, vol. 138, 1980, p. 138

Answer 1

well, seeing as how atheists say that the big bang was a massive explosion of space itself, somehow creating mass and energy and laws of physics. order out of disorder? ridiculous. at least its not pan-spermia. now THATS crazy.

Answer 2

You keep making the same methodological mistake, over and over. Now, just relax, and try to understand this: Whatever gaps in knowledge there are in science, THEY CANNOT BE FILLED WITH NONSENSE.

If you have a hard time with this concept, consider ANY alternate creation theory to your pet creation paradigm and voila! it will work just as well. For example, 1, 2 or 2 million creators will do the trick, and the universe can be 2 or 2 trillion years old, etc. After all, with wizardry anything is possible - and any old wizardry will do just fine.

Can you not understand that as soon as you introduce gratuitous (in this case magical) elements into a hypothesis you've turned it into myth?

Of course there are question re the "big bang," and evolution, and quantum field theory, etc. And, get ready for this, we may never get a totally satisfactory scientific explanation of ALL the natural universe and its processes. Even then, and especially then, we must admit that, and JUST that.

If you have to have magic, if you are so frustrated by the pace and achievements of science, then I would suggest you forgo the pain and take up a hobby that doesn't involve peripheral scientific "criticism."

Answer 3

Well, I'm going to start by pointing out that the details and quotes you gave were copied and pasted from a religious website, "Harun Yahya," and aren't your own ideas. You should have listed your source.

I can't answer you question, because I don't have any facts, and neither does anyone else. I can't pretend to know what happened by answering, because even though some act like they were, I wasn't there.

Let's ponder another, even harder question. What is existance? What is our state of consciousness? It's real without a doubt, because we share it as the same. This universe as well as everything in it is just here without explanation. It has been around for a while and I doubt it will go anywhere, but WHY? There is NO obvious purpose in our minds for this universe, but does there have to be?

What would the purpose be to a god that creates us and puts us into this universe to live a life, other than for his amusement? If he creates us as we are, why are we put here if not for a show? A test of faith isn't applicable if he we would be born into heaven, so why aren't we if it is, indeed, there? Why do we have to come here before we go to heaven; is it simply to give us a chance to go to hell? Why?

What if our universe isn't special - even though it's called a "uni"-verse, what if there are several of these just like galaxies that exist in even LARGER groups like our planets do in galaxies? Of course, we can't see it because the sheer immensity of our universe alone is mind boggling.

There are so many questions without an answer, but the biggest one is this.... WHO CARES? I'm going to live my life with or without these answers, and while it would be nice to have them, they don't really matter because for every answered question, a new one arises. All of our questions can never be answered.

Why are there so many people that say God was before the Big Bang just because they can't comprehend an answer? To them: What was before him? How was he brought into the supposed nothingness that was before the Big Bang? The bible doesn't say anything about it, and I'm sure that he didn't just sit around all this time, because according to it, this universe has only been around for about 6,000 years (which is laughable, might I add). If he is so easy to please that he could just sit around for eternity with the lights off until it was time for Earth, he must be really stupid.

Answer 4

One of the most recent ideas suggests a "Big Splat" from a parrelel universe. It's an exciting extension of string theory called M-Theory.

Our universe exists in 5 of the 11 recognized dimensions, but there is, it is put forth, a hidden "companion" universe to ours -- flat and four-demnsional as ours was.

The friction of the two rubbing goether created a "splat" which transformed into matter and energy.

Answer 5

The universe has always existed. Our visible universe is just a tiny speck in the entire universe.

The big bang began a chain of events that resulted in our visible universe, it "created" nothing.

Theories concerning anything that occurred prior to the big bang, or anything outside our visible universe are not scientific theories, they are untestable and unverifiable opinions.

Postulating that the universe was created requires a creator and until such time theorists can explain the creation of the creator, the only logical assumption is that the universe was not created and has always existed.

Answer 6

The only big bang that I know of is the explosion of the Atom Bomb. So, prior to that, I am sure you can pick up a few history books and read them to see. Of course, you will have to get old and new ones and read them and then figure out which ones you want to believe, since people are constantly changing what they say happened in history.

Of course, if you want to read a book of past, present, and future events, I would suggest the Holy Bible. It is packed full of events that have, are, and will take(n)(ing) place. You should read it some time; it's great.

Answer 7

I have heard it said that something can not be created from nothing. But, this very thing had to happen or we wouldn't have anything. At some point something, or someone had to decide to come into being, and become self existant. The fact that we can't understand how that is possible, doesn't make it impossible. God existed before the big bang (if there was one). God willed himself into being, because some had to start the ball rolling on existence.

Answer 8

Our dimension of time would not have existed, so it is pointless to try and comprehend what came before. The current realm of thought is leaning towards a previous universe that collapsed under its own gravity.

Answer 9

certainly was not creation, howeve it is a question too large for the human mind. I theorise with many that the universe was a big pot of swirling hot gasses, how the gasses got there we will never know.

Answer 10

There was a big implosion.
Our universe is in a cycle of expanding/imploding/growing.
'The' Big Bang creationists refer to was one of many that have happening forever and will continue to do so.