Josh McDowell has the following on page 60 of his book "More Than a Carpenter":
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I can trust the apostles' testimonies because, of those men, eleven died martyrs' deaths on the basis of two things: the resurrection of Christ, and their belief in Him as the Son of God. They were tortured and flogged, and they finally faced death by some of the cruelest methods then known:
1) Peter- crucified
2) Andrew- crucified
3) Matthew - the sword
4) John - natural
5) James, son of Alphaeus - crucified
6) Philip - crucified
7) Simon - crucified
8) Thaddaeus - killed by arrows
9) James, brother of Jesus - stoned
10) Thomas - spear thrust
11) Bartholomew - crucified
12) James, son of Zebedee - the sword
The response that is usually chorused back is this: "Why, a lot of people have died for a lie; so what does it prove?"
Yes, a lot of people have died for a lie, but they thought it was the truth. Now if the resurrection didn't take place (i.e., was false), the disciples knew it. I find no way to demonstrate that they could have been deceived. Therefore these eleven men not only died for a lie--here is the catch--but they knew it was a lie. It would be hard to find eleven people in history who died for a lie, knowing it was a lie.
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When Peter was to be killed, he asked to be crucified upside down because he was not worthy to die in the same way his Master did. John was the only apostle to die naturally, and he died after many years in prison.
2006-06-09 05:53:30
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answered by jzyehoshua1 3
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grow to be Jesus talking about his second coming or grow to be he talking about Enlightenment and/or non secular Visitation? Did the three who were on Mount Tabor (Peter, James, and John) "see the dominion" on the Transfiguration of Jesus? Did John of Patmos "see the dominion"? He actual wrote about having considered the dominion in Revelation! Did Saul of Tarsus "see the dominion" (or a minimum of "the King") on the line to Damascus? Then there are endless incidents of "non secular Visitation" recorded for the time of church heritage. (There are even extra unrecorded incidents of Enlightenment!) in case you take advantage of those incidents, then you have "some received't style lack of existence till they have considered the dominion" being acceptable to each and each and every era.
2016-11-14 09:44:07
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answered by ? 4
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Read Fox's Book of Martyrs
2006-06-09 05:48:09
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answered by williamzo 5
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Old disciples never die. They just fade away.
2006-06-09 05:45:06
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answered by Anonymous
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There have been lots. Including crucifixion, hanging, stoning, beatings, etc.
2006-06-09 05:51:53
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answered by Anonymous
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STONED TO DEATH
2006-06-09 05:45:11
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answered by Anonymous
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