Is the Christian agenda about turning US into a Christian theocracy?

Question

Abduhaq, can you tell me which Christians so I know who they are?

mrsdocter, you sound like you want everyone to equal rights so long as they are all Christians, no room for atheists or any other religion then.

Answer 1

Yes, and I will be your GOD!!!!

Answer 2

The Christian agenda is nothing more than to spread the good news. We want our children to be able to talk about God with their teachers at school. We want to be allowed to hold our heads proudly and say we are Christians instead of having some rabid atheist throwing our religion back in our face telling us that we and our children are insane and infringing on their constitutional rights. What about our rights? We just want everyone to have equal rights (which is a Christian ideal anyway). So I guess you could say, in a way, we would "like" a Christian theocracy, but it isn't necessary.

Answer 3

Actually no. Jesus when he returns will run things in a Theocracy. I suppose some who claim to be Christians may think it is their duty to set up a theocracy - but it is not.

The Bible says THIS world is not our home, and should live as strangers passing through a foreign land. However the Bible also says to obey the laws of the land. It would be foolish to not take advantage of voting as long as it is our right.., and to vote according to our consciences.

Even at that - most Christians feel Democracy is a godly system of rule. It isn't but of all the other current systems - Democracy at least allows more freedom.

Answer 4

Jefferson saw it coming:

"I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808. ME 11:428

"In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the Constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I have therefore undertaken on no occasion to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them as the Constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of State or Church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:378

"Our Constitution... has not left the religion of its citizens under the power of its public functionaries, were it possible that any of these should consider a conquest over the consciences of men either attainable or applicable to any desirable purpose." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to New London Methodists, 1809. ME 16:332

Answer 5

It's not, purposefully.

But it ends up being that way, simply by how Christians view their mission in life.

Face it: You can't keep spiritual issues out of the legal system, because what we deem "right and wrong" is largely driven by our personal spiritual beliefs. If you think a certain behavior is harmful, you're willing to reduce freedom in order to keep people (both the instigators and the victims) from being hurt.

It seems like common sense: "Here's what I believe is wrong. Let's make laws to prohibit it. The world will be a better place. That's what God wants."

I think that's still living by worldly standards, though. It's a human way of thinking.

[Soapbox time -- skip if bored :) ]

God isn't interested in what "rights" Christians have. We already have all the rights we'll ever need, as part of the Kingdom of God. God is our security, and he's called us to be "salt" in the world.

That's not meaning we try to recreate a political heaven on earth. It means we are sprinkled throughout the world, and our presence there -- being the people God is making us into -- impacts other individuals so that they can better see the God we believe in.

The world is more befuddled and curious over someone who lives her life as if she were morally and spiritually free even if politically/legally she's not in control, than in someone who is constantly fighting to make everything politically go her way and "preserve her rights." Democracy was and is a wonderful thing, but it's not a prerequisite to Christian faith.

The church thrives in places where it does not have rights. It flounders, stagnates, and becomes ineffective where it tries to endorse itself politically.

Jesus was born under Roman rule and harrassed by Jewish religious leaders. He wasn't interested in changing the political landscape to "force" people to behave, he was interesting in terraforming the inner garden of the human heart on an individual basis.

People build relationships with God, not governments, and the only way you reach people is by giving of yourself to them.

I like having "rights," but Christians gave them up when we left the kingdom of this world and entered the kingdom of heaven. We have all rights we ever need -- the right to love, to serve, to sacrifice, to care, to give freely, to treat those who oppose us with concern and respect.

Like I said, the intentions are good... but yes, I think in the end it still comes down to wanting to restructure society to return to a "Christian" environment ruled by Christians, where Christians can feel comfortable and safe. Theocracy.

[end soapbox]

Answer 6

It is the "Christian Agenda" to glorify God, to help people see the need for Christ in their own lives and to accept Him as their Lord and Savior. Then they too can spread the good news of Jesus Christ.

Answer 7

I believe that is Pat Robertson's (the real Pat Robertson) plan. Many of his speeches reflect that very thing.

Answer 8

No, it is about turning the US into a fascist dictatorship similar to Nazi Germany.

Answer 9

Isn't that what Jesus intended?
Isn't it according to God's will?
Didn't Jesus not command it? Go and make desciples!
Wouldn't it be great?????????All of us in agreement and doing God's will peacefully!

Answer 10

Sure looks that way.

Answer 11

Only some of the Christians not all of them.
So please do not generalize.