Are Gnostics really Pagan ?

Question

Ok let's face it, they have the EGC eclesiastica Gnostics Catholica, and that is catholic church oriented. They claim to know the deeper secrets of christianity, yet the church dismissed them as heretics. So they infiltrate Pagan groups and tear real pagans apart for not being of the christian belief and they have their OTO which is part of the EGC.
The church didn't want them so are they Pagan because the church said so or is there really a place for them in Paganism ?

Answer 1

tricky question. yes, they were labeled as heretic, that includes they into a shade of paganism but in the core of Gnostic belief, is a huge difference between them and us. Gnostic is also monotheistic, believe in a separate world (spirit vs flesh, divine vs humankind), believe that reality is Evil (or a product of a Evil Entity) and that this world need to be purge from this Evilness.
this is very far from the Pagan core.
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Answer 2

Gnostic means knowledge. Gnostics seek the divine through meditation, journey, self-discovery, as well as through the teachings of others. They don't accept the established norms but look for deeper meaning. Christians are Christians. It's true that the church did it's best to wipe out everyone who disagreed with them back in AD 300 or so, including the Gnostic Christians of various ilks. This helped them maintain power until the Enlightenment. This doesn't mean the Gnostic Christians are wrong, and they are gaining more acceptance today. In fact, many Protestant denominations have alot of Gnostic elements, the personal relationship with Christ is a very Gnostic concept.

I am personally a Gnostic Pagan. I do not worship Christ of the Jehovah God, though I acknowledge that they're there. Over there...somewhere. I grow my faith through personal revelation, journey and trance and I work to develop a deep and personal relationship with those Deities that claim me. I also read anything I can get my hands on, from any belief system.

I don't know what an OTO is, so I can't comment on it.

Gnostic Christians are not Pagans, they are Christians, pure and simple. You do not have to be accepted by "the church" to be Christian any more than you have to belong to a coven to be Pagan and it sounds like they have a church, the EGC. The old church that declared them heretics doesn't really count anymore. The Catholic church is an impotent (and impudent) force that waves it's finger around condemning condoms and cannonizing women who leave their children motherless for the sake of the anti-abortion ideal, but the world at large doesn't pay that much attention anymore, so who cares what they say is heretical. Heretical doesn't mean Pagan, by the way. Hertical stuff is false teaching, Paganism doesn't teach Christianity, so we can't be heretics. We can be Heathens.

Answer 3

They are neither. Since they still consider themselves Christian it doesn't matter that the higher church does or not., There are Christian Pagan groups, but as far as I know, Gnostics don't associate dieties with nature.

Answer 4

Gnostics are not necessarily pagans. Gnostics are not in fact a legitimate religious group. Gnostics are simply any religious group that claims to have absolute knowledge of the divine.