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I was born and raised Catholic. Most recently, I have found that my faith is beginning to weaken with the current events in the Catholic church. More importantly, the cases of child molestation and the decision of the Diocese to ignore claims of abuse. What is causing you to doubt your faith as a Catholic?

2007-12-31 15:13:19 · 10 answers · asked by Talkstress 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Nothing has me rethinking whether or not I wish to be a Catholic. The Church has weathered other scandals and is still going strong after all these centuries. Jesus is the Head of the Church, and He's not going to let His people be scattered.

I love my Church, especially the Eucharist. I left the Church for awhile, and by the time I returned, I realized just how much the Real Presence meant to me. I love the beauty of the Liturgy, but it's the Eucharist that draws me to the Church.

So no matter what happens, I plan on staying Catholic. I really hope that you will remain with our Church because there is nothing out there that will feed your spirit as much as the Catholic faith. And I speak from sad experience with other denominations.

2007-12-31 15:24:09 · answer #1 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 5 2

For me, it is the opposite. The longer I am Catholic the more I find myself in love with the Mass and agreeing with the teachings of the Church.

Unfortunately, if you find your faith weakening with the cases of child molestation, then you'll be sad to find out that the Catholic Church is the most publicized , but not the church who has the largest problem with it.

The Methodist church actually came out during the highest point of the 'scandel' and admitted that they have a larger problem with pedophilia than the Catholic Church does. The media loves bashing the Catholic Church and so it pins things up to skew people's thoughts away from what is really happening. They tell the truth, yes, but not all of it and they'll add a few things in for better ratings.

I can say the Diocese is not ignoring claims of abuse and the Church has paid billions of dollars out to true victims of abuse and molestation.

Out of all the pedophiles in the world, only 2% are found in religous sects and less than 1% is found in the Catholic Church. That leaves 98% of pedophiles in the world to be fathers, mailmen, mothers, normal average people who do this to their daughters, sons or neighbors or people they don't even know.

I suggest you read Karl Keating's "Catholicism and Fundamentaism", it's a very good book that goes over a lot of the supposed problems of the Catholic Church and shows why they are not problems. It's not that long and extremely good if you are looking for answers to some of the Church's largest complaints and supposed blasphemies.

Feel free to message me for further conversation if you have questions in general.

2008-01-03 14:46:43 · answer #2 · answered by Aleria: United Year Of Faith 6 · 1 0

I certainly can understand how any mishandling of child sexual assault by your diocese would frustrate and discourage you.

I'm lucky -- in my diocese, the bishop and his successors handled it right all along. Accused offenders where turned over for investigation by civil authorities and removed from ministry until the facts were known. So the men who tried to hide as priests stayed away from here because they knew they weren't going to get away with it.

All this to say, the ENTIRE Catholic Church is not responsible for the crimes that you cite. There is nothing in the Catechism or Canon Law that condones such abusive behavior. You can still have faith in Catholicism even while you recognize the serious faults and crimes of certain clergymen in your own diocese and in other places.

I do not know which diocese you live in, but you might want to check out the United States Council of Catholic Bishops' web site and see all the new procedures that have been put in place. That might help you overcome this rough patch.

2008-01-01 15:56:11 · answer #3 · answered by sparki777 7 · 3 1

It's quite the opposite for me. I'm a convert to the Church, and I love her dearly.

It saddens and sickens me, this scandal of molestation. I sincerely pray for the victims, as well as the priests, since both sides need healing.

Since becoming Catholic, I have learned that we must focus on our faith. We cannot base it on the actions or nonactions of people, because people are sinful and will always disappoint us, but Christ never will. He is Who we must fix our eyes on. His Church is our home.

God bless and Happy New Year.

2008-01-04 10:11:06 · answer #4 · answered by Danny H 6 · 1 0

nothing.

If I ever leave the Catholic Church, it will not be to join another church. I will leave because I no longer believe in God.

2008-01-02 14:07:02 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I am becoming increasingly alarmed by a systematic effort to undermine the reforms of Vatican II and turn the Church back into a 16th Century model that focuses exclusively on personal "salvation" and ignores any obligation to the greater community. Liturgies and catechesis are becoming more regimented. Private devotions are being encouraged. "Social justice" issues are becoming reduced to abortion and gay marriage, the same as right-wing Protestantism. The poor? Who cares! I'm expecting to see a price list for indulgences soon, and a general consignment of Catholicism to social irrelevence.

2007-12-31 23:32:31 · answer #6 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0 6

There are so many good willed and lovely Catholics. I have a problem with the hierarchy of the Church to include the Cardinals , Pope (two~faced) and Jesuits of the 4th vow.

2007-12-31 23:25:55 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

Here are the heresies, may God be gracious to open your eyes


1. Prayers for the dead .....300 AD
2. Making the sign of the cross .....300 AD
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints .....375 A.D
4. Use of images in worship .....375 A D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration .....394 AD
6. Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, "Mother of God" applied at Council of Ephesus .....431 AD.
7. Extreme Unction (Last Rites) .....526 AD
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory I .....593 AD
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints .....600 AD
10. Worship of cross, images & relics .....786 AD
11. Canonization of dead saints .....995 AD
12. Celibacy of priesthood .....1079 AD
13. The Rosary .....1090 AD
14. Indulgences .....1190 AD
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III .....1215 AD
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest .....1215 AD
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host) .....1220 AD
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion .....1414 AD
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma .....1439 AD
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed .....1439 AD
21. Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent .....1545 AD
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible .....1546 AD
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary .....1854 AD
24. Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council .....1870 AD
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) .....1950 AD
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Roman Catholic Church .....1965 AD



Take Mary for example. She went to the temple (Luke 2) to offer two turtledoves - in keeping to the OT laws from Lev 12. Have you ever read your Bible what is exactly in Lev 12? One of the dove is for burnt offering and the other is for SIN OFFERING - thus Mary is a sinner and not immaculately conceived....that is why she need a Saviour (Luke 1:45-47)

Mary's action and confession proved that SHE IS A SINNER! The teaching of the roman institution is false, and you had received a false spirit!

2007-12-31 23:19:57 · answer #8 · answered by A T O M I C Jw slayer 1 · 3 10

When I was about four I realized the whole thing was bullspit, and so decided to go my own way.

Have been happier ever since. No regrets.

2007-12-31 23:19:49 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 6

I don't doubt the Catholic Church because I know that, despite the Controversies in the Church, the Church is still Supernatural and Infallible:

Controversies in the Church
Matt. 13:24-30 - scandals have always existed in the Church, just as they have existed outside of the Church. This should not cause us to lose hope in the Church. God's mysterious plan requires the wheat and the weeds to be side by side in the Church until the end of time.

Matt. 13:47-50 - God's plan is that the Church (the kingdom of heaven) is a net which catches fish of every kind, good and bad. God revealed this to us so that we will not get discouraged by the sinfulness of the Church’s members.

Matt. 16:18 - no matter how sinful its members conduct themselves, Jesus promised that the gates of death will never prevail against the Church.

Matt. 23:2-3 - the Jewish people would have always understood the difference between a person's sinfulness and his teaching authority. We see that the sinfulness of the Pharisees does not minimize their teaching authority. They occupy the "cathedra" of Moses.

Matt. 26:70-72; Mark 14:68-70; Luke 22:57; John 18:25-27 - Peter denied Christ three times, yet he was chosen to be the leader of the Church, and taught and wrote infallibly.

Mark 14:45 - Judas was unfaithful by betraying Jesus. But his apostolic office was preserved and this did not weaken the Church.

Mark 14:50 - all of Jesus' apostles were unfaithful by abandoning Him in the garden of Gethsemane, yet they are the foundation of the Church.

John 20:24-25 - Thomas the apostle was unfaithful by refusing to believe in Jesus' resurrection, yet he taught infallibly in India.

Rom. 3:3-4 - unfaithful members do not nullify the faithfulness of God and the work of the Holy Spirit in the Church.

Eph. 5:25-27 - just as Jesus Christ has both a human and a divine nature, the Church, His Bride, is also both human and divine. It is the holy and spotless bride of Christ, with sinful human members.

1 Tim. 5:19 - Paul acknowledges Church elders might be unfaithful. The Church, not rebellion and schism, deals with these matters.

2 Tim. 2:13 - if we remain faithless, God remains faithful for He cannot deny Himself.

2 Tim. 2:20 - a great house has not only gold and silver, but also wood and earthenware, some for noble use, some for ignoble use.

Jer. 24:1-10 - God's plan includes both good and bad figs. The good figs will be rewarded, and the bad figs will be discarded.

1 Kings 6,7,8 - the Lord commands us to build elaborate places of worship. Some non-Catholics think that this is controversial and the money should be given to the poor, even though no organization does more for the poor of the world that the Catholic Church. We create our churches with beauty because Christ our King lives in the churches in the blessed Eucharist.

Matt. 26:8-9; Mark 14:4-5; John 12:5 - negative comments concerning the beauty of the Church are like the disciples complaining about the woman anointing Jesus' head with costly oil. Jesus desires that we honor Him with our best gifts, not for Him, but for us, so that we realize He is God and we are His creatures.

Matt. 26:10-11 - Jesus says we have both a duty to honor God and give to the poor - a balanced life of reverence and charity.

The Church is Infallible and Supernatural
Isa. 35:8, 54:13-17 - this prophecy refers to the Church as the Holy Way where sons will be taught by God and they will not err. The Church has been given the gift of infallibility when teaching about faith and morals, where her sons are taught directly by God and will not err. This gift of infallibility means that the Church is prevented from teaching error by the power of the Holy Spirit (it does not mean that Church leaders do not sin!)

Acts 9:2; 22:4; 24:14,22 - the early Church is identified as the "Way" prophesied in Isaiah 35:8 where fools will not err therein.

Matt. 10:20; Luke 12:12 - Jesus tells His apostles it is not they who speak, but the Spirit of their Father speaking through them. If the Spirit is the one speaking and leading the Church, the Church cannot err on matters of faith and morals.

Matt. 16:18 - Jesus promises the gates of Hades would never prevail against the Church. This requires that the Church teach infallibly. If the Church did not have the gift of infallibility, the gates of Hades and error would prevail. Also, since the Catholic Church was the only Church that existed up until the Reformation, those who follow the Protestant reformers call Christ a liar by saying that Hades did prevail.

Matt. 16:19 - for Jesus to give Peter and the apostles, mere human beings, the authority to bind in heaven what they bound on earth requires infallibility. This is a gift of the Holy Spirit and has nothing to do with the holiness of the person receiving the gift.

Matt. 18:17-18 - the Church (not Scripture) is the final authority on questions of the faith. This demands infallibility when teaching the faith. She must be prevented from teaching error in order to lead her members to the fullness of salvation.

Matt. 28:20 - Jesus promises that He will be with the Church always. Jesus' presence in the Church assures infallible teaching on faith and morals. With Jesus present, we can never be deceived.

Mark 8:33 - non-Catholics sometimes use this verse to down play Peter's authority. This does not make sense. In this verse, Jesus rebukes Peter to show the import of His Messianic role as the Savior of humanity. Moreover, at this point, Peter was not yet the Pope with the keys, and Jesus did not rebuke Peter for his teaching. Jesus rebuked Peter for his lack of understanding.

Luke 10:16 - whoever hears you, hears me. Whoever rejects you, rejects me. Jesus is very clear that the bishops of the Church speak with Christ's infallible authority.

Luke 22:32 - Jesus prays for Peter, that his faith may not fail. Jesus' prayer for Peter's faith is perfectly efficacious, and this allows Peter to teach the faith without error (which means infallibly).

John 11:51-52 - some non-Catholics argue that sinners cannot have the power to teach infallibly. But in this verse, God allows Caiaphas to prophesy infallibly, even though he was evil and plotted Jesus' death. God allows sinners to teach infallibly, just as He allows sinners to become saints. As a loving Father, He exalts His children, and is bound by His own justice to give His children a mechanism to know truth from error.

1 & 2 Peter - for example, Peter denied Christ, he was rebuked by his greatest bishop (Paul), and yet he wrote two infallible encyclicals. Further, if Peter could teach infallibly by writing, why could he not also teach infallibly by preaching? And why couldn't his successors so teach as well?

Gen. to Deut.; Psalms; Paul - Moses and maybe Paul were murderers and David was an adulterer and murderer, but they also wrote infallibly. God uses us sinful human beings because when they respond to His grace and change their lives, we give God greater glory and His presence is made more manifest in our sinful world.

John 14:16 - Jesus promises that the Holy Spirit would be with the Church forever. The Spirit prevents the teaching of error on faith and morals. It is guaranteed because the guarantee comes from God Himself who cannot lie.

John 14:26 - Jesus promises that the Holy Spirit would teach the Church (the apostles and successors) all things regarding the faith. This means that the Church can teach us the right moral positions on such things as in vitro fertilization, cloning and other issues that are not addressed in the Bible. After all, these issues of morality are necessary for our salvation, and God would not leave such important issues to be decided by us sinners without His divine assistance.

John 16:12 - Jesus had many things to say but the apostles couldn't bear them at that point. This demonstrates that the Church's infallible doctrine develops over time. All public Revelation was completed with the death of the last apostle, but the doctrine of God's Revelation develops as our minds and hearts are able to welcome and understand it. God teaches His children only as much as they can bear, for their own good.

John 16:13 - Jesus promises that the Spirit will "guide" the Church into all truth. Our knowledge of the truth develops as the Spirit guides the Church, and this happens over time.

1 Cor. 2:13 – Paul explains that what the ministers teach is taught, not by human wisdom, but by the Spirit. The ministers are led to interpret and understand the spiritual truths God gives them over time.

Eph. 4:13,15 – Paul indicates that attaining to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God to mature manhood is a process. We are to grow up in every way into Christ. Doctrine (which means “teaching”) develops as we understand God’s Revelation.

Acts 15:27-28 - the apostles know that their teaching is being guided by the Holy Spirit. He protects the Church from deception.

Gal. 2:11-14 - non-Catholics sometimes use this verse to diminish Peter's evident authority over the Church. This is misguided. In this verse, Paul does not oppose Peter's teaching, but his failure to live by it. Infallibility (teaching without error) does not mean impeccability (living without sinning). Peter was the one who taught infallibly on the Gentile's salvation in Acts 10,11. With this rebuke, Paul is really saying "Peter, you are our leader, you teach infallibly, and yet your conduct is inconsistent with these facts. You of all people!" The verse really underscores, and not diminishes, the importance of Peter's leadership in the Church.

Eph. 3:10 - the wisdom of God is known, even to the intellectually superior angels, through the Church (not the Scriptures). This is an incredible verse, for it tells us that God's infinite wisdom comes to us through the Church. For that to happen, the Church must be protected from teaching error on faith and morals (or she wouldn't be endowed with the wisdom of God).

Eph. 3:9 - this, in fact, is a mystery hidden for all ages - that God manifests His wisdom through one infallible Church for all people.

Eph. 3:20 - God's glory is manifested in the Church by the power of the Spirit that works within the Church's leaders. As a Father, God exalts His children to roles of leadership within the body of Christ.

Eph. 5:23-27, Col. 1:18 - Christ is the head of the Church, His Bride, for which He died to make it Holy and without blemish. There is only one Church, just as Christ only has one Bride.

Eph. 5:32- Paul calls the Church a "mystery." This means that the significance of the Church as the kingdom of God in our midst cannot be understood by reason alone. Understanding the Church also requires faith. "Church" does not mean a building of believers. That is not a mystery. Non-Catholics often view church as mere community, but not the supernatural mystery of Christ physically present among us.

1 Thess. 5:21 - Paul commands us to test everything. But we must have something against which to test. This requires one infallible guide that is available to us, and this guide is the Catholic Church, whose teachings on faith and morals have never changed.

1 Tim. 3:15 - Paul says the apostolic Church (not Scripture) is the pillar and foundation of the truth. But for the Church to be the pinnacle and foundation of truth, she must be protected from teaching error, or infallible. She also must be the Catholic Church, whose teachings on faith and morals have not changed for 2,000 years. God loves us so much that He gave us a Church that infallibly teaches the truth so that we have the fullness of the means of salvation in His only begotten Son.

1 John 4:6 – John writes that whoever knows God “listens to us” (the bishops and successors to the apostles). Then John writes “This is the way we discern truth and error. John does not say “reading the Bible is the way we discern truth and error.” But if listening to mere human beings helps us discern truth and error, God would have had to endow his chosen leaders with the special gift of infallibility, so that they would be prevented from teaching error.

Matt. to Rev. - we must also note that not all Christian doctrines are explicit in Scripture (for example, the dogma of the Blessed Trinity). However, infallibility is strongly inferred from the foregoing passages. Non-Catholic Christians should ask themselves why they accept the Church's teaching on the three persons of the Trinity, the two natures of Christ in one divine person, and the New Testament canon of Scripture (all defined by the Catholic Church), but not other teachings regarding the Eucharist, Mary, the saints, and purgatory?

2008-01-01 14:05:45 · answer #10 · answered by Daver 7 · 4 2

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