Are We Saved by Just Grace —or Are Works Involved?

Question

please quote Jesus and Paul or others with scriptures that match

I'm tired of dogma and doctrine based on your opinions

“Even so faith, if it has not works, is dead, being alone…You have faith, and I have works: show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works…But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?…See you how faith wrought [worked] with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?” (Jms. 2:17-18, 20, 22).

Answer 1

Speaking of works, Worship translates to work. The true translation of worship is work. Earlier writings that the bible came from said we were made to be slaves for the gods. Therefore, our worship of the gods is really work for the gods. Wake up, people, before it's too late. These guys written about in ancient times were real historical figures. Their agenda is still being enforced here on planet earth.

Answer 2

we are saved by Grace, working, through LOVE. If one leaves out the working and the love, He shall not be saved. So the bible says. read Galatians.

Answer 3

I don't believe that being saved is a one time thing. I think it's a life-long process. We can only know we are saved at judgment. What does that mean for us now though? That we need to show God that we accept the gift of grace. The way we do that is by repenting. It isn't just a one time repentance, but continual. If we have done all we can do in this life to live right, and to follow what Christ taught, then grace is sufficient. If we haven't followed Christ, and allowed the atonement to work in our lives, grace won't be enough.

Grace is given to every man, but unless we put our faith to work (hey.. I just realized that sounds funny!!), we can't hope to gain full exaltation.

I think that works help build faith. It isn't the other way around. If we are helping others, praying, going to church, reading scriptures, our faith grows. As our faith grows, we want to do more of the works. But there has to be a foundation of faith before works mean anything to us.

Here are some references: Rev. 22:14, "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the [heavenly] city."

Matt. 19:16-17: 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Luke 10:25-28: 25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

The whole chapter of Matthew 24.

Matt. 25:31-46- this is too long to list it all here, but it's the parable of the goats and sheep.

Matt 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Answer 4

I have come up with quite a few questions to ask our Christian friends, so therefore I hope Christians will help me out by answering these important questions.

Does Jesus claim to be God? Did he ever say I am God?

If Jesus did so, then I would like to ask our Christian friends to produce the verse where Jesus said that he was God, in plane normal statements, where he said I AM GOD.

If Jesus did not say I AM GOD then why do you believe he is God?

Why would you believe that Jesus is God when he never said he was?

Wouldn't this be making false claims upon Jesus?

Is Jesus all knowing?

If Jesus is not all knowing then how can he be God?

Isn't God all knowing?

Was Jesus the messiah?

Was Jesus a servant of God?

If Jesus was the messiah and servant of God, then how is Islam the anti-Christ when it preaches the same thing?

Did the believers of Jesus believe he was God?

If they did not then why do you?

Did the Pharisees always understand Jesus?

Did the Pharisees sometimes miss-understand Jesus?

If the Pharisees miss-understood Jesus, how can you be sure they were correct when they claim he claimed he was God?

Would you take the word of a lying hypocrite Pharisee as good evidence?

For what reasons were former prophets killed?

Can you be sure they were not killed for the exact same reason as Jesus?

How do I inherit eternal life according to Jesus?

By believing in the commandments?

Or by believing in his death and resurrection?

Is Jesus God because he is sinless?

Can you show me where Jesus says he is sinless?

If Jesus is God because he is sinless is Noah and Job God too?

If Jesus is God because he was worshiped was the prophet Daniel also God?

If Jesus died for my sins and I believe he did so, can I still sin freely?

If so, what happens to me?

Do I get punished for them?

Do I get away with them?

If I get punished, is the punishment in this world or in the hereafter?

If I do not get punished don't you think this is a bit strange and bad?

If I do get punished for my sins and also still faithfully believe in Jesus' death, then what is the point of his death?

If God loved the world so much, why did he not send himself, why his son?

Would you send your son to do your job or yourself?

Does your God love me?

If he does why would he send me to hell for eternal punishment?

Isn't that unfair from someone who loves me?

So there we go, I hope our Christian friends will help out and answer some of those questions.

And Allah Knows Best!

Answer 5

Faith+Works=Grace

Your verse is a perfect example.

Answer 6

It is by faith we are saved the results of being made new is works. It is works that proves faith.

Answer 7

Just grace, alone.

Works come from your heart being changed (saved) and
then you WANT to do works for God.
He offers to you--getting your own SELF off of your mind, by helping others , which is 'works'--is the way I see it.

ALSO, --Revelation 2:5 says;
Repent (change the inner man to meet God's will) and do the works you did previously( when you first knew the Lotd), or else I will visit you and remove your lampstand for its place, unless you change your mind and repent."

It's GOD first--THEN works.
There are God's works ---and then there is works of the flesh, that make you feel good for the moment---
but works for God make you happy, joyful, SO content, because you KNOW that you KNOW that HE is in control!

I LOVE MY GOD!!

Answer 8

Grace is that God had grace on us to pick us to be his people its his Grace. he has for us

Answer 9

I was saved by Grace Jones.

Answer 10

We are saved by grace through faith. I can get more scripture if you need it.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.


John 3:16
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Romans 3: 21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Romans 5:1
1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Romans 4:5
5However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

James clarified salvation by faith, he does not contradict it. Read and you will see that James is stating that if you do not have good works your faith is dead... what kind of faith do you have if you do not do good works? James makes it clear that saying you believe is not enough to show your faith is real, if you have faith you will do good works. Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. If Christ actually lives in you, if you have faith and are saved you do good works. Paul also helps us to understand James in Eph 2:10. Paul makes it clear that we do good works because God has prepared them for us to do. We are saved by faith.