2007-12-31
04:32:44
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asked by
Isabel A
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Pregnancy & Parenting
➔ Adoption
In respect to the fact that there are people here, one in particular who happens to be an adoption worker who seems to think adoptees have "ruined" this board by coming here and sharing their experiences.
2007-12-31
05:04:19 ·
update #1
Elodie-
Did someone say that those opinions weren't valid? Can you site these instances? I know that I haven't and wouldn't say that.
2007-12-31
08:07:19 ·
update #2
Again with thumbs. Why is everyone crying about thumbs? We all get thumbs. I got 12 on one question. I got thumbed yesterday because I thought it would be ok to celebrate adoption day if the adoptee was up for it. People disagree, that's ok.
Thumbs don't mean anything other than someone disagrees with you and we allllll get them.
2007-12-31
10:21:20 ·
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i cant imagine why we wouldnt be importent. it seems only fair to hear from all people involved in the process. otherwise it would be very biased.
2007-12-31 15:39:54
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answered by rachael 5
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Of course, of course, of course!
I agree that adoptees' voices should be primary. Adoptees are at the "center" of adoption -- so they have the best perspective on the whole. Not a perfect perspective, but as good as we are going to get!
As an adoptive parent, it is the voices of adult adoptees that I listen to most, because if they are generous in sharing their perspectives (and so many are!) then I can learn so much that will help me be a better adoptive parent (at least I hope so).
I have never understood those who say that adoptees are not thinking of "the children." Hello? They ARE the children -- or at least they were until they rudely grew up and started expressing their opinions.
We all have things to learn from each other. No one's voice should be silenced.
2008-01-01 06:20:08
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answered by spydermomma 5
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Hi Isabel,
I, too, was disappointed in the adoption worker/adoptive parent who wanted to dismiss adoptees' input as irrelevant and unwelcome. Not terribly surprised, just disappointed. As you know, most adoptees are used to that sort of treatment, being silenced as though their feelings are irrelevant. (Unless of course they are congruent with the adoption industry's propaganda, then they are more than welcome to speak up). Meanwhile, another generation of children could grow up feeling the same way because the cycle will not change until issues are addressed.
To answer your question, yes, everyone's perspectives are important, especially the adoptee's. Adoptees are supposedly the ones for whom adoption is meant to serve. I feel society can and should be doing so much better for the children. My comments are not directed at those adoption professionals and adoptive parents who do "get it" and are respectful of our rights and feelings. What the unelightened ones don't seem to realize is that adoptees already know all too well what mainstream society's views on adoption are. We have lived it our entire lives and have been expected to pretend that is how we feel as well. Guess what? It is not. After we grow up, find our own voices, & try to express how we really feel, some act as though we don't know how we really feel or that it is not true. Well it is true. Instead of hushing us, they should try to understand. Who is better qualified than an adoptee to truly speak of what the experience is like?
Shedding light on wrongdoings or suggesting areas of needed improvements should not be seen as causing trouble, because there ARE serious issues with the way adoption in the U.S. is practiced. Adoptive parents can be wonderful people, and still there is something wrong with adoption itself! That's what adoptees are saying, and that's what needs to be acknowledged and dealt with rather than ignored. By listening to all views, that's how ideas can evolve in order to improve. That is our common goal, is it not? To better meet the short and long-term needs of the children?
Hmm...I cannot explain why some might be so closed off to trying to understand our points. It should be explored. Are they afraid of something? Do they think by ignoring what they don't want to hear it will make the issues go away? Could it be a personal vested business interest in keeping the system unchanged at the expense of the adoptee? Maybe it's something else.
In any case, this is a public forum, not someone's private territory that they can decide who may contribute and who may not. Because it is not filtered like most adoption forums, it may be the first time others have been exposed to true views from adult adoptees. Improvements should not be feared. Different views should be freely exchanged and encouraged for the collective benefit of everyone's education. One doesn't learn much by only reading what one already knows.
Thanks for asking.
julie j
reunited adoptee
2008-01-01 06:28:31
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answered by julie j 6
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yes, very. Especically now, since adoption is so popular.
2007-12-31 22:35:54
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answered by Joy M 3
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Adoptees ARE adoption!
Certain people here seem to want to keep us mute.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been mute for over 35 years feeling grateful and undeserving and people-pleasing. So I ain't shutting up any time soon. Adoptees need to have a voice and if something an adoptee says makes other people uncomfortable, that's their problem.
ps. In case it needs repeating I LOVE MY ADOPTIVE PARENTS and I DID NOT HAVE A BAD ADOPTION EXPERIENCE!
2007-12-31 19:06:03
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answered by H****** 7
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As an adoptive parent, I think adoptee's comments are very important. I read all of them carefully and have incorporated suggestions into our daily lives. It was Heather H. (I think) who suggested that aparents never be late because of the child's fear of abandonment. I had been late once for picking up my daughter from school (actually due to circumstances out of my control) but I did note that she really seemed to overreact to the 3 minute lateness. I was grateful for Heather's input and have made sure that I am extra early now and just bring a book or craft to keep me busy in the car until school lets out.
I have noted that some adoptee's experience's are rejected -if they talk about having a good adoption experience. They've been called "happy, happy adoptees" , told they were shallow, in denial, and would one day basically see the light. (Please don't ask me to show you the link because everyone seems to have their questions and answers private around here.) Even when they post an answer just outlining their experience, they are riddled with thumbs down. I am sure this makes them feel as if their perspective is not important. It would if it was me.
Hey, you asked. Their experience is invalidated by the thumbs down same as the words do to you.
2007-12-31 17:39:44
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answered by punxy_girl 4
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Sure the adoptees perspective is important, but back in 1972 when I gave my daughter up, we certainly were not thinking of her rights back then, she was a baby and we were doing 'what was best'. No one thought how she would feel when she was old enough to make her own decisions in life. That was wrong and ill informed. We thought 'what was best' would far out weigh 'how she would feel' and to tell the truth that never entered our mind. I am not against adoption, but I am against how easy they make it for you to relinquish. Saying all the 'right' things, making you believe 'it's for the best', you have to do whats 'right' for the baby. You have no money, the stigma of an unwed mother, how will your family live down 'your' shame. Bla bla bla. In the end I was weak and I gave in.
2007-12-31 17:36:07
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answered by snowwillow20 7
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"adoptees" points of view are indeed very important. I would love to be able to give my opinion without hassle from people on here!
Even when i give an answer that is very good and people agree with it, I seem to get alot of thumbs down. Its sad.
What pisses me off is the amount of depth people go into about certain topics. There is no need for it at all.
I have also found that alot of people on here seem to turn things around and twist things too. Not nice, not mature and damn right selfish.
2007-12-31 17:07:07
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answered by sarahhhhhhh 2
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Of course it is! Everyone's perspective is important, even those adoptees who don't have any negative feelings towards adoption.
2007-12-31 15:54:46
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answered by LaraSue 6
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to not want to hear the adoptee's perspective just confirms who many (not all) aparents believe adoption benefits...
this is the same hatin' that happens with bmoms who do not co-opt to the "i'm just a bmom, nothing more...all i did was give birth, her amom is her REAL mom"... banter.
i cannot even comment on an adoption worker who feels this way. and i thought the ones i worked with were extra special. i guess this is not exclusive to the agency i went through.
2007-12-31 15:27:00
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answered by tish 5
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Isn't the adoptee's life the one most impacted by the decision...if you think about it even more than the birth mother's? I'm offended by those who discredit opinions of adoptees as we are the only one's who truly knows what the experience is like.
2007-12-31 15:18:54
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answered by morris the cat 5
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