Another sincere question for my fellow believers in Christ, Do you believe that salvation can be lost?

Question

Do you believe in the doctrine of "once saved always saved?" And on what do you base this belief or disagreement with this belief?
Peace Be With You,
Debra

Answer 1

Theology and doctrine aside, I personally believe that it indeed can be lost.

How? I think its possible to be staring at the forest so much, that you are blind to the trees. The trees being our true purpose, to uplift our fellow humans in time of their need.

I believe that a person can be so tied up in their own salvation that they can actually loose it by ignoring everything else.... by ignoring the Christian (and its not exclusive to Christians, but to ALL caring people) "prime directive."

peace to you, Debra... and happy new year!

Answer 2

Well teh Methodist (not to diss them) who believe that you can loose your salvation, must have scripture to back it up, just as the calvinist have scripture to back up why you can;t loose your salvation, since salvastion is a free gift, to loose it, makes the free gift seem liek it is not free, but something to work for. Since our name will be written in the book of life, I see not scripture that says a name can be erased from the book of life.
Being an ex-mormon and working for my salvation, I no longer believe that "works: will get me to heaven.

Answer 3

A faulty presentation that leads many to damnation. There is NOTHING in Scripture that says salvation cannot be lost.

Saint Paul: "Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." KJV - Romans 11:22
Saint Paul: "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. KJV - 1 Cor. 9:26-27
Saint Paul: "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." KJV - 1 Cor. 10:12
Saint Paul: "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." KJV - 2 Cor. 5:10
Saint Paul: "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." KJV - Philip. 2:12
1st Corinthians 15:2 states, that vain is the belief of those who go against the word of God.
1st John 1:6 states, "If we say, "We have fellowship with `Jesus'," while we continue to walk in darkness, we lie & do not act in truth.
1st John 2:15 & 16 - If anyone loves sensual lust, enticements of the eyes, or a pretentious life, the love of God the Father is not in him.
1st John 3:9 & 15 says, "No one begotten by God commits sin", & "that no murderer has eternal life remaining in him".
begotten: used in the sense of having been acquired by, permanently committed too.
Romans 8:7-8 "For the concern of the flesh is hostility toward God; it does not submit to the law of God, nor can it; and those who are in the flesh cannot please God."
Hebrews 10:26-29 "If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries. Anyone who rejects the law of Moses is put to death without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Do you not think that a much worse punishment is due the one who has contempt for the Son of God, considers unclean the covenant-blood by which he was consecrated, and insults the spirit of grace?"
2 Peter 2:20-21 "For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of (our) Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them."
Hebrews 4:6-7 "Therefore, since it remains that some will enter into it, and those who formerly received the good news did not enter because of disobedience, he once more set a day, "today," when long afterwards he spoke through David, as already quoted: "Oh, that today you would hear his voice: 'Harden not your hearts.' "
Hebrews 6:4-6 "For it is impossible in the case of those who have once been enlightened and tasted the heavenly gift and shared in the holy Spirit and tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to bring them to repentance again, since they are recrucifying the Son of God for themselves and holding him up to contempt."
Hebrews 4:2 "For in fact we have received the good news just as they did. But the word that they heard did not profit them, for they were not united in faith with those who listened."
Hebrews 12:4-13 "In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood. You have also forgotten the exhortation addressed to you as sons: "My son, do not disdain the discipline of the Lord or lose heart when reproved by him; for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines; he scourges every son he acknowledges." Endure your trials as "discipline"; God treats you as sons. For what "son" is there whom his father does not discipline? If you are without discipline, in which all have shared, you are not sons but bastards. Besides this, we have had our earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them. Should we not (then) submit all the more to the Father of spirits and live? They disciplined us for a short time as seemed right to them, but he does so for our benefit, in order that we may share his holiness. At the time, all discipline seems a cause not for joy but for pain, yet later it brings the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who are trained by it. So strengthen your drooping hands and your weak knees. Make straight paths for your feet, that what is lame may not be dislocated but healed."


For over a thousand years the Christian Church remained as one with unified teachings under the authority of Peter and his lawful successors. While there were periods of dissension they were of comparatively short duration. During the second millennium many began preaching their own versions of the Word of God. The following admonition of Saint Paul was relatively firmly held throughout the first millennium but has been highly abused during the second. Take heed of the warning given by Saint Paul.

"But there are some who are disturbing you and wish to pervert the gospel of Christ.
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach (to you) a gospel other than
the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed!" [Galatians 1:7-8]

Answer 4

I don't believe in the "Once saved, always saved" doctrine because that's not what the Bible teaches. St. Paul talks about believers who have lost their salvation:

Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

That passage refers to someone who was saved and who turned away from God. St. James also talks about "Faith without works is dead," which also suggests that those Christians who don't obey God and care for His people will also find that they've lost their salvation.

And finally, I don't believe in "Once saved. . ." because I belong to the Catholic faith, and that has never been a doctrine accepted by the Church.

(((((Debra)))))

Answer 5

I am not sure. If someone who was saved totally turns against God and rejects HIm, then what?

Answer 6

Salvation ... salvation is everlasting life. Where that life is spent forever is determined by the judgement of God.

Jesus did say none can be taken out of His hands. He did say, even by giving a child a glass of water in no way can salvation be lost.

True and perfect religion before God... to visit with widows and orphans during the time of their affliction.and to keep oneself undefiled by the world.

Answer 7

I don't really think a person can lose their salvation, but I believe a lot of people think they're Christians when they're not.

Answer 8

We are here to make mistakes and learn from them. Why would He punish us for those things in which makes our souls stronger?

Answer 9

I think that some Christians would say that, were the person capable of "losing" that salvation, s/he was never saved in the first place... which makes me wonder, then, how they can be so sure that they themselves are "saved" or whatever... *shrug*

Answer 10

you realize there is no god

no salvation, no sin, no savior, no fear

after you remove the need for faith (concept of sin) life is much better

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