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denounced the existence of god? If that sin is unforgivable, then what's the point of conversion?

2007-12-31 02:58:30 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Very good point... never thought of it that way. I will be sure to tell my dad that next time he hassles me about going to Church... I will be like it's a moot point cause I've spent over 20+ years doing the one unforgivable sin, so going to church won't help me out now.

2007-12-31 03:02:26 · answer #1 · answered by Pitchy 5 · 3 5

Here is the Truth of God concerning your question......God is willing to forgive our sins if we repent of them, if we are sorry for them and if we are determined to change. But when one seals his conscience to never repent, he cannot be forgiven. Jesus states the problem clearly. "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation" (Mark 3:28–29).
Jesus said that all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, if they repent of those sins. Yet the one unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come" (Matthew 12:31–32).
We all need to heed that warning. Notice the Apostle Paul’s warning to Christians: "If we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins" (Hebrews 10:26).
Willful sin is a fully conscious and determined act and attitude to never repent of sin. The willful sinner is intractable. He or she has a conscience seared to do evil. This kind of sinner will never even entertain the thought of repenting and desiring to return to God’s way of life (cf. 1 Timothy 4:2). The incorrigibly wicked are not blinded like the rest of the world; they have "knowledge of the truth." They know the effect of Christ’s sacrifice, yet they profane it. Such ones face "a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?" (Hebrews 10:27–29).
Yes, there will be a fiery judgment—a lake of fire for those who persist in sinning willfully and who insult the Spirit of grace. Scripture also gives a warning to all who, as Christians, have been "partakers of the Holy Spirit." Remember that God gives the Holy Spirit to those "who obey Him" (Acts 5:32). If Christians willfully turn back to evil—if they fall away and turn to an attitude of disobedience—Scripture teaches that it is impossible to "renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame" (Hebrews 6:6).
Truly converted Christians are those to whom God has given the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9). Even converted Christians will sin—but they are committed to repenting always. They need a repentant attitude of mind, always looking forward to changing their behavior and attitude, even if they feel too weak to do so just yet. God is patient, but we need to respond to that patience because the time is growing short. Always desire repentance. Always desire to change your life for good even if, through weakness, you give in to temptation. Ask God for a spirit of repentance!
Are the billions of non-Christians who have lived and died—perhaps your friends and relatives who were never converted—all lost? Did they all commit the unpardonable sin? The good news is that there is hope for them. God allows many to be blinded to the truth in this age, so they will not commit the unpardonable sin. Notice what the Apostle Paul writes about those who are unconverted—those who are disobedient. "For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all" (Romans 11:32). How can we reconcile this apparent contradiction between God’s mercy and His justice? Your Bible reveals that billions of people will have their very first opportunity for salvation in the White Throne Judgment, described in Revelation 20:11–12. God’s plan of salvation may be difficult for some to believe. But it is very encouraging when you understand the hope it brings to all of humanity. Those who have suffered from their own sins in ignorance, and those who have been innocent victims of war, oppression and genocide will be resurrected to understand the Bible—the Book of Life. They will have their first true opportunity to understand God’s love for all humanity. In the White Throne Judgment, billions of human beings who were previously spiritually blinded will finally learn from the pain of the past, and they will be given the opportunity to truly repent, believe the gospel and eventually inherit the Kingdom of God. As Peter wrote, "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9).
But what about those who have seared their consciences, and knowingly rejected God’s truth, love, knowledge and forgiveness in favor of rebellion, hatred and sin? These willful sinners will be burned up in a lake of fire! Notice: "Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire" (Revelation 20:14–15).
Here is the second death—the eternal death penalty from which there is no resurrection! Those who have sealed their minds never to repent or surrender to Jesus Christ will be totally burned up—destroyed! It is Satan and his angels who will be tormented forever. Satan wants us to believe that his fate, as a spirit being, will be the fate of humans! Satan "deceives the whole world" (Revelation 12:9). Contrary to Satan’s propaganda, God will not allow humans to suffer forever!


The incorrigibly wicked will suffer the torment of knowing their fate before their final execution. But a loving and merciful God will put them out of their misery for all eternity. They will be totally burned up and destroyed forever, annihilated in the lake of fire—a fire that will spread over the whole earth!
Yes, the whole earth will be purified by fire. "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness" (2 Peter 3:10–11).
Those who have sealed their own fate—who have determined never to repent of their evil attitude and nature—will be totally burned up and will become ashes! They will not be tormented forever. They will receive their eternal punishment, not eternal punishing. Their death, their eternal punishment, will last for eternity!
This is what the Bible teaches. The incorrigibly wicked will be totally destroyed—annihilated. But they will not be destroyed capriciously, or unfairly, or because God predestined them never to hear Christ’s message. No one can be saved without accepting the message of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12). Through the White Throne Judgment, those human beings who have not previously had their minds opened by God’s truth will have their first genuine opportunity for salvation.
So, who is burning in hell? The answer is: "No one!" There is a future lake of fire that will burn up, consume, and annihilate the wicked forever. That fire will purify the earth for the new heavens and earth promised in Revelation 21. We can all be thankful for God’s justice, fairness, and plan of salvation through Christ. There is judgment coming, but there is also hope for many of your friends and relatives you thought may have been lost!

2007-12-31 03:26:02 · answer #2 · answered by TIAT 6 · 0 2

The sin is only unforgivable because the person committing it has closed their mind to God. The fact that you as an atheist are on a message board entitled "religion and spirituality" implies one of two things: 1) you are truly atheist and intend to denounce my belief as a Christian, therefore I plan on defending my beliefs when they are attacked; or 2) you aren't as convinced of your atheist beliefs as you let on and you are just open enough to search for the truth. In the case of the latter, you aren't committing a sin because you haven't closed yourself off to the truth. BTW, the "unforgivable" sin isn't blasphemy, it's blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, in other words... closed minded denial of the truth.

2007-12-31 03:13:22 · answer #3 · answered by Scott B 7 · 0 2

I may be an atheist but I have read the bible and if my understanding is correct. There is no such thing as an unforgivable sin in the eyes of your God.

Which is another reason why I refuse to believe... No one is all forgiving...including your God, if he was...he wouldn't have "supposedly" kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden to be tormented for eating an apple...Would he?

2007-12-31 03:08:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

The bible tells us that Jesus died for ALL sins. John 3:16 doesn't say,...who ever believes in Him but hasn't blasphemed. Until a persons very last breath they have the opportunity to accept Christs free gift of eternal salvation.

2007-12-31 03:03:49 · answer #5 · answered by gtahvfaith 5 · 1 2

well, you can go for the one point conversion of a dummy to believer

or the two point conversion of a former christian who is now atheist and get them to backslide into ignorance for the two point conversion

2007-12-31 03:03:48 · answer #6 · answered by voice_of_reason 6 · 3 0

I don't try to convert any one
No one can convert another

Its totally up that person and their beliefs
I share what I know and let you decide

2007-12-31 03:03:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

I thought cursing god out was the only unforgivable sin.

2007-12-31 03:02:25 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

They do it because they hate and fear us.

They know as well as we do that if we are left unchecked, we can completely disprove their religion, and will end up turning their friends and family into atheists, as well.

2007-12-31 03:02:08 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 6 5

I think "blasphemy" is supposed to mean being touched by the Holy Spirit and spreading false gospel. Or something.

That passage has a different meaning for blasphemy than we use today.

2007-12-31 03:01:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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