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According to a Watchtower article... some practices that are "unclean" can become a serious sin when they become gross. If christian married couple slip and engage in an unclean act one time... have they done this?

2007-12-30 21:12:06 · 7 answers · asked by ezlayedback 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses understand the bible to teach that "uncleanness" is a serious sin when it is BOTH "gross" and performed "with greediness".
...(Ephesians 4:19) Having come to be past all moral sense, they gave themselves over to loose conduct to work uncleanness of every sort with greediness.
...(Romans 1:26-27) God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites...working what is obscene


As an example, tobacco use unquestionably constitutes "uncleanness", yet it can hardly be certain that a former smoker who absentmindedly smokes a single cigarette is acting from "greed". A Christian who (perhaps out of habit) smokes one or a few cigarettes in a single session may be able to resolve his apparent weakness with the help of family members or a single "older man", rather than with a formal committee of elders.

By contrast, a so-called "Christian" who chooses to view child pornography with prurient intent does seem to have committed the kind of "gross uncleanness with greediness" which is a serious sin, and which should be addressed by those with the spiritual qualifications to assist.
...(Galatians 6:1) Brothers, even though a man takes some false step before he is aware of it, you who have spiritual qualifications try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness, as you each keep an eye on yourself, for fear you also may be tempted.
...(James 5:14-15) Is there anyone [spiritually] sick among you? Let him call the older men of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, [metaphorically] greasing him with oil in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the indisposed one well


Jehovah's Witnesses are not certain that consensual sex between spouses can be described as "unclean" (JWs note The Watchtower of 7/15/2006, page 30). If the questioner refers to oral or anal sex, his description of them as "unclean" seems to be a personal one. Jehovah's Witnesses consider all forms of sex outside of marriage to be "fornication", and they never apply the term "fornication" to any act restricted to two persons in a valid marriage.
...(1 Corinthians 7:2-3) Because of prevalence of fornication, let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife her due; but let the wife also do likewise to her husband.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/20040508a/article_01.htm

2007-12-31 03:29:43 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2 1

It is a gift from God to Lust your wife, but there are things that are not acceptable, just as it is not right for certain lifestyles. Because you are married , it doesn't make it right to do certain sexual acts. I don't know what the watch tower says but an unclean act even with your wife is wrong. But I would tell you to pray about it. Love God above all and your neighbor as yourself.

2007-12-30 21:24:38 · answer #2 · answered by furgetabowdit 6 · 2 2

Im still trying to figure out what you mean by 'unclean'..

2007-12-30 21:22:28 · answer #3 · answered by LadyCatherine 7 · 2 1

I wonder of those who were disfellowshipped for "unclean Marital acts" were re-instated when the governing Body decided to keep Thor noses out of other peoples bedrooms.

2007-12-31 02:55:07 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 5

Why do you have to have a group of men come into your bedroom and dictate if you are doing things right? When are you witnesses going to understand that Christ came and died for us so we could no longer have to worry about a bunch of rules....Grace is where we are with God right now..Not a bunch of Elders that judge your bedroom habits and act like Pharisees...

2007-12-31 02:32:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 6

if you don't know the answer..talk it over with an elder.

2007-12-30 22:17:26 · answer #6 · answered by debbie2243 7 · 3 2

..."unclean"...? support your question a little bit better... did they forget to "shower" or what..? (Anything the "Brooklyn" comic-book has to say about anything is a "joke")

2007-12-30 21:18:48 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4 6

I wish you could elaborate a bit more on your questions, anyhow the Christian standard regarding sexual morality was set out long ago in plain language in the Bible. “This is what God wills, the sanctifying of you, that you abstain from fornication . . . For God called us, not with allowance for uncleanness, but in connection with sanctification. So, then, the man that shows disregard is disregarding, not man, but God.” (1 Thess. 4:3-8) “Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge fornicators and adulterers.” (Heb. 13:4) “Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, . . . nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom.”—1 Cor. 6:9, 10. Marital rape can also be classified as unclean sexual conduct among a married couple. It occurs when a husband overpowers his wife and forces himself on her sexually. Some husbands may believe that the “authority” the apostle Paul says a man has over his wife’s body is absolute. However, Paul also stated that “husbands ought to be loving their wives as their own bodies.” The apostle Peter states that husbands should assign wives “honor as to a weaker vessel, the feminine one.” That leaves no room for violence or forced sex.—1 Corinthians 7:3-5; Ephesians 5:25, 28, 29; 1 Peter 3:7; Colossians 3:5, 6; 1 Thessalonians 4:3-7. A person who unrepentantly practices fornication (Greek, por·nei´a applies to illicit sexual relations outside Scriptural marriage) does not belong in the Christian congregation of Jehovah’s witnesses

In the Watch Tower, attention was drawn to this standard for true Christians as early as November of 1879. But it was not discussed repeatedly or at length as if this were a major problem among the early Bible Students. However, as the attitude of the world became more permissive, increased attention was directed to this requirement, especially in the years surrounding World War II. This was needed because some among Jehovah’s Witnesses were adopting the view that as long as they were busy witnessing, a little laxness in sexual morality was just a personal matter. It is true that The Watchtower of March 1, 1935, had clearly stated that participation in the field ministry gave no license for immoral conduct. But not everyone took it to heart. So, in its issue of May 15, 1941, The Watchtower again discussed the matter, and at considerable length, in an article entitled “Noah’s Day.” It pointed out that the sexual debauchery in Noah’s day was one reason why God destroyed the world of that time, and it showed that what God did then set a pattern for what he would do in our day. In plain language it warned that an integrity-keeping servant of God could not devote part of his day to doing the Lord’s will and then, after hours, indulge in “the works of the flesh.” (Gal. 5:17-21) This was followed up, in The Watchtower of July 1, 1942, with another article that condemned conduct that was out of line with the Bible’s moral standards for single and for married persons. No one was to conclude that sharing in public preaching of the Kingdom message as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses gave license for loose living. (1 Cor. 9:27) In time, even firmer measures would be taken to safeguard the moral cleanness of the organization.
Some who were then expressing a desire to be Jehovah’s Witnesses had grown up in areas where trial marriage was accepted, where sex relations between engaged persons were tolerated, or where consensual relationships between persons not legally married were viewed as normal. A few married couples were endeavoring to practice celibacy. Other individuals, though not divorced, were unwisely separated from their mates. To provide needed direction, The Watchtower, during the 1950’s, considered all these situations, discussed marital responsibilities, emphasized the Bible’s prohibition of fornication, and explained what fornication is, so there would be no misunderstanding.—Acts 15:19, 20; 1 Cor. 6:18.
In places where people beginning to associate with Jehovah’s organization were not taking seriously the Bible’s moral standards, this was given special attention. Thus, in 1945, when N. H. Knorr, the third president of the Watch Tower Society, was in Costa Rica, he gave a discourse on Christian morality in which he said: “All of you here tonight who are living with a woman but haven’t got your marriage legally arranged, I’m giving you some advice. Go to the Catholic Church and put your name down as a member, because there you can practice these things. But this is God’s organization, and you can’t practice these things here.”
Beginning with the 1960’s, when homosexuals became more open about their practices, many churches debated the matter, then accepted them as members. Some churches now even ordain homosexuals as clergymen. In order to help sincere persons who had questions on these matters, the publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses also discussed these issues. But among the Witnesses, there was never any question as to how homosexuality would be viewed. Why not? Because they do not treat the Bible’s requirements as if these were merely the opinions of men of another era. (1 Thess. 2:13) They gladly conduct Bible studies with homosexuals so these can learn Jehovah’s requirements, and such persons may attend meetings of the Witnesses to listen, but no one who continues to practice homosexuality can be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.—1 Cor. 6:9-11; Jude 7.
In most ways Jehovah’s Witnesses are like everyone else. They have normal problems—economic, physical, emotional. They make mistakes at times, for they are not perfect, inspired, or infallible. But they try to learn from their experiences and diligently study the Bible to make needed corrections.

Holding firmly to the Bible’s standard of sexual morality has greatly benefited the family life of Jehovah’s Witnesses. But being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses is no guarantee that a person will not have domestic problems. Nevertheless, the Witnesses are convinced that God’s Word gives the very best counsel on how to cope with such problems. They have available many provisions made by the organization to help them apply that counsel; and when they follow through on it, the results are, indeed, beneficial.
As early as 1904, the sixth volume of Studies in the Scriptures provided an extensive discussion of marital responsibilities and parental obligations. Since that time, hundreds of articles have been published and numerous discourses have been delivered in every congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses to help each family member to appreciate his God-given role. This education in wholesome family life is not merely for newlyweds but is an ongoing program that involves the entire congregation of Jehovah's witnesses.—Eph. 5:22–6:4; Col. 3:18-21.

Even though customs affecting marriage and family life differ from one land to another, Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that the standards set out in the Bible apply everywhere. As their work got under way in Africa in this 20th century, the Witnesses taught there, as they do everywhere, that Christian marriage allows for just one marriage mate. (Matt. 19:4, 5; 1 Cor. 7:2; 1 Tim. 3:2) The Watchtower of January 15, 1947, emphasized that Christianity makes no allowance for polygamy, regardless of local custom.

While sexuality is a gift from God, it is not to be expressed without restraint. This principle applies even within the marriage arrangement. (Ephesians 5:28-30; 1 Peter 3:1, 7) Outside of marriage, sexual relations are forbidden. The Bible is quite specific on this matter. In the Law that God gave to the nation of Israel, it was stated: “You must not commit adultery.” (Exodus 20:14) Later, Jesus included “fornications” and “adulteries” with the “injurious reasonings” that originate in the heart and defile a person. (Mark 7:21, 22) The apostle Paul was inspired to admonish the Christians in Corinth: “Flee from fornication.” (1 Corinthians 6:18) And in his letter to the Hebrews, Paul wrote: “Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge fornicators and adulterers.”—Hebrews 13:4.

To obey Jehovah’s direction about sexual conduct can be a challenge for imperfect humans. The famous 12th-century Jewish philosopher Maimonides wrote: “No prohibition in all the Torah [Mosaic Law] is as difficult to keep as that of forbidden unions and illicit sexual relations.” Yet, if we obey God’s direction, we benefit greatly. (Isaiah 48:18) For example, obedience in this matter helps to protect us from sexually transmitted diseases, some of which have no cure and can kill. We are protected from out-of-wedlock pregnancies. Applying godly wisdom also contributes to a clean conscience. Doing so promotes self-respect and earns the respect of others, including our relatives, our mates, our children, and our Christian brothers and sisters. It likewise promotes in us a healthy, positive attitude toward sex that will contribute to happiness in marriage.

2007-12-30 22:43:05 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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