Evolutionists v. Creationists: who's friendlier towards gays?

Question

I have two acquitances: an evolutionist (atheist) and a creationist (christian). When the topic of homosexuality comes up (like it always does) they have two different theories.

The evolutionist tells me flat out that my lifestyle is against the way things are suppose to be. It's unnatural. You know, violates Mother Nature. In the animal kingdom there is male and there is female and they procreate. My choice just doesn't go along with evolution. I guess in Darwin's view, the strong survive and mutliply and I don't. So much for homosexuality and natural selection!

My creationist friend tells me I somehow got a demon in me and it possessed me to choose a wicked lifestyle. However, I can be redeemed and she has even invited me to church and bible study. Once I get it out of me my slate's wiped clean and life goes on.

So, in your opinion, who is friendlier towards homosexuality - the evolutionist or the creationist?

Answer 1

Personally, I have NEVER heard anyone but a religious person say that homosexuality was unnatural. In fact, that is one of the key arguments the religious use in arguing against homosexuals.

If your "evolutionist" friend holds this opinion, he or she needs to do some more research.

Evolution does not have anything to say about "the way things are supposed to be", nor does it say that homosexuality is unnatural. In fact, homosexuality is found in dozens of species throughout the animal kingdom.

Answer 2

You say that the evolutionist tells you that a gay lifestyle is against the natural order - but it's not. Our closest relatives, the great apes, all exhibit homosexuality, as do giraffes, penguins, and many other animals. Homosexuality is prevalent in nature. I think your evolutionist friend is full of crap.

Creationists, well, there's not much you can do to convince them. Gays are frowned upon in the Bible, and there's no way to go back and edit that.

In my opinion, organized religion needs to stay out of the bedroom. Do you think an all-perfect God would create gay people, only to send them to Hell for being the person they were born as? Of course he wouldn't. Religious folks think they know what God does and does not approve of, but they don't have any contact with him other than a book written two thousand (at the very latest) years ago.

In general, evolutionists, as you call them, are more friendly to gays.

However, I don't like the term 'evolutionist,' because it implies that evolution is a personal belief system rather than a simple statement of fact about natural life. Creationism is a personal belief system. Evolution is a well-documented, unanimously-accepted (among scientists) scientific theory.

There's no point in trying to deny your own sexuality. Ignore the biased and the ignorant and be who are.

Answer 3

I don't know what kind of a jerk your evolutionist friend is, but we have no problems against homosexuality, we know you can't change, we know you aren't inferior in any way (that mother nature nonsense is bull, there are 6 billion people, the fact that you won't mate makes absolutely no difference), we accept you for who you are, we will not call you an evil abomination and force you to change (I'm sure you would be offended if a Christian came up to you and told you there is something wrong with you, you are evil, or you need to change). Creationists are ignorant homophobes. Evolutionists are intelligent, rational people who will not demean you for your differences.


Oh, and I think mr. Young C up there answered your question about Creationists.

Answer 4

Unnatural > Evil

Since heterosexual behavior is caused by hormones, it's safe to assume the same holds true for homosexuality. Since homosexuality still exists, it probably does not go down geneticaly, therefore bypassing evolution. Also, anything present in a biological entity is by definition natural. The evolutionist loses, and the creationist is insane.

Nature is self-balancing, it can't go wrong... consider global overpopulation of humans that will eventualy occur: how will nature balance it out? Easy, we see already it on the small scale in packed urban areas, with violence being common. We'll start having major wars.

Answer 5

I think your evolutionist friend needs to study the field in a little more depth before making pronouncements about what does and doesn't "go along with evolution". And I doubt he's actually read any Darwin if he summarises his theory in that way.

Your creationist friend seems confused. It's both a demon making you that way and also a choice? Her "slate wiped clean" statement is vague, too.

Answer 6

The evolutionist is an asshole, the creationist has a typical creationist response. I couldn't pick one over the other.
However overall, there are far more creationists that accept homosexuality, than creationists.

Answer 7

Both sides are cruel to gays. I have many gay friends. Their lifestyle is not for me but I don't judge any of them. I get sick of people calling them "abominations" and being hateful. If more people would clean up their own backyards instead of worrying about their neighbors, life would be a lot better. Judge yourselves and your lives and let God take care of the rest. My gay friends are more loving than most people that I meet in life and I am proud to know them.

Answer 8

You are talking to the wrong evolutionist.

Studies show that Homosexuality have always been a part of nature. There are clearly animals that have homosexual tendencies.

Just because Homosexuals don't reproduce doesn't mean that they are 'against nature' afterall, nature would have weeded them out along time ago if homosexuals weren't compatible in the environment.

Answer 9

Your evolutionist friend is uninformed. Homosexual behavior is displayed in many social animals and probably serves an evolutionary purpose. It has genetic causes and siblings of homosexuals tend to be more fertile than others.

I won't comment on your Christian friend....

Edit:
Sorry missed the question... On the whole, religion tends to be less accepting and the more educated and more exposed to various culture a person is the more accepting they *may* be. I'd say it is highly a personal thing as anything involving sex tends to invoke strong feelings.

Answer 10

evolutionist. we believe there are alternative methods to procreation other than heterosexuality. even before artificial insemination a homosexual female could still have sex with a male for the purpose of procreation. Homosexuality doesn't now nor has it ever meant the lack of the ability to procreate.