Jesus Camp and Hitler Jugend?

Question

I was watching this show Jesus Camp and I've seen it before but it kinda really hit me where I have seen this before. The Hitler Youth movement or Hitler Jugend? Does anybody see the connection. Look at the photo at http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/133p/133p04papers/KFrabottaHitlerYouth046.htm and tell me these are not the same faces? As a secondary question, did anybody else choke on their Pepsi at the beginning when the very obese woman is telling the kids how Americans are fat and lazy and they need to learn how to go without food? Jeez.. guess that is so she would have more? Anyway, I shouldn't make light of a very serious thing. But seriously for those of you who know about the Hitler Jugend, can you see the similarity that I do? Blew me away when I realized what I was seeing. Scary. And sad.

Kudos for the person who mentioned the fatherland comment. If you look at the phrasing, some of it is just about identical, swapping praise Jesus for Heil Hitler.

I keep finding funny stuff in something not funny. I recorded and am rewatching this. At one point when the obese lady pastor is speaking in tongues she says carne asada... which is a kind of Mexican food... How can I find anything funny in something so tragic and horrible. I guess it is better than a grown man crying.

Answer 1

Fanatics are truly evil when they target the youth. Hitler had a special fondness for the "next generation of perfect Aryans" for the Fatherland. He always ensured that Hitler Youth units were at every rally to inspire the adults and show the world how perfect Germany was.

These kids and adults in this film - scary! When does religious teaching become emotional abuse? When does indoctrination frighten people? What's different between these adults and David Koresh or Jim Jones?

Answer 2

I have read a bit about the Hitler Jugend, and yes, the similarities are definitely there.

*shudder*

Answer 3

Fanaticism of any sort...Nazi, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, even the rare atheist...all comes down to the same mental and emotional states: Arrogance, hubris, ignorance, ego, and hatred. Lots and lots of ignorance and hatred.

Fanatics embrace their fanaticism like a suit of armor, deflecting anything contrary to their ideas regardless of reality. Fanatics are incapable of being taught anything outside their field of interest. Worse, they idealize such willful ignorance as virtuous..."strength" or "dedication" in the face of opposition.

Answer 4

Heil Jesus!

Very very creepy stuff. Watch out for an ultra-conservative theocratic revolution.

Answer 5

Its exactly the same except they put Jesus in for das Vaterland.

Answer 6

It's the same techniques and everything. Rather scary.

Answer 7

my hubby and i were thinking the same thing

Answer 8

Going to your University and listen to the atheists try to pass their beliefs as "getting an education" is scary. The reason is that unlike most Muslims and atheists, you will find the majority of Christians standing against this as being Biblical and therefore Christian.

But you don't hear of Muslims taking a stand against their terrorists.

And you don't hear of atheists taking a stand against their terrorists like "Green Peace".

It would help the atheist's credibility if you practiced what you preached or took the log out of your own eye before trying to cram your religion down other people's throats. Then, Christians would be more open to your sermons.

Answer 9

You should have mentioned the communist (officially atheistic) re-education camps.